Evolution is a hoax

[BADecker]

What is God and how was it He created?

The fact that God was not in the universe before He created it, shows that the essence of God is something that we can't know except that He tells us. Why? Because we, being universe beings, can't think in extra-universal terms necessary for knowing anything about God.

However, you ask this question in the wrong thread. This is the thread where we emphatically prove that evolution is a hoax.

I hate to have to hurt all those evolution religion believers' feelings. But it is better that their feelings are hurt here, so that they find God and get saved.

Evolution is a hoax.

You brought up the C&E and the watchmaker argument.  So answer the question.

What is God and how was 'He' created?

PS. I did not know God had a penis, but if you insist, I will go with it.  So we know he has a penis, what else can you tell me about him?

I don't know if I should repeat the answer, or if I should simply let you stew in your own juices.

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[BADecker]

^^^ So far there is no proof that any animal evolved from any other animal. But even if there was proof that it could happen somehow, proof would entail tracking the DNA of animals for thousands of years to see if it really happened this way. We don't have a time machine or time viewer to go back and do the tracking. And we don't have the ability to track even one parent/family to find which of its offspring had the required mutation.

But even if we had the ability to do the above, we haven't found one instance of pure random. This means that cause and effect acts on everything. C&E is like programming. So, we would have to find the programmer of nature, even if we tracked DNA to show one kind of animal into another. It might have been programmed to happen this way. And that wouldn't fit our evolution theory at all.

So far, the best ideas of evolution are hoaxes. We aren't even starting to do what it will take even to prove that evolution in nature happened once.

Evolution is a hoax.

[notbatman]

hoax implies conspiracy,
agenda to make believe,
monkeys trafficking fools,
working them like tools.

 

[BADecker]

hoax implies conspiracy,
agenda to make believe,
monkeys trafficking fools,
working them like tools.

 

So you think that the evolution leaders aren't smart enough to know that evolution didn't happen? They most certainly know, just as you claim that NASA knows that the earth is flat.

Evolution is a hoax.

[styca]

evolution has asked us to attach little or no importance to it's theory.

No it hasn't. Evolution has asked us to consider the mountains of evidence that proves it.

There is virtually a large vacuum to be field in the evolutionary theory as the organisms or animals that precedes or lies as a hybrid of both the previous and next generation are still a puzzle to science. Take for example: what animal stands between man and the chimpanzee?

We are not descended from chimps. That's nonsense. It's like saying you're descended from your brother or sister. Humans and chimps have evolved from a common ancestor. Every species evolves, all the time, generation to generation. Humans are still evolving. Chimps are still evolving. There is no 'ta-da, we're done!' moment, there is no end state.

Yet, scientist in all its knowledge and theory has tried and failed to replicate these conditions for life formation from non living components of our environment!

Not true, scientists have recreated the building blocks of RNA from a chemical soup.

Well, we all need something to believe in so,,, there you have it.

Yes, evidence.

[BADecker]

evolution has asked us to attach little or no importance to it's theory.

No it hasn't. Evolution has asked us to consider the mountains of evidence that proves it.

There is virtually a large vacuum to be field in the evolutionary theory as the organisms or animals that precedes or lies as a hybrid of both the previous and next generation are still a puzzle to science. Take for example: what animal stands between man and the chimpanzee?

We are not descended from chimps. That's nonsense. It's like saying you're descended from your brother or sister. Humans and chimps have evolved from a common ancestor. Every species evolves, all the time, generation to generation. Humans are still evolving. Chimps are still evolving. There is no 'ta-da, we're done!' moment, there is no end state.

Yet, scientist in all its knowledge and theory has tried and failed to replicate these conditions for life formation from non living components of our environment!

Not true, scientists have recreated the building blocks of RNA from a chemical soup.

Well, we all need something to believe in so,,, there you have it.

Yes, evidence.

The mountain of evidence for evolution, fits other things better. Anybody can make up a science fiction story like evolution that might fit the evidence.

Since there is no proof for evolution, all we can say is maybe. But since the evidence fits God-creation better, the "maybe" dwindles to nothing.

Scientists have taken the machinery of nature, and switched it around a little, and have created all kinds of things. Scientists have created a tiny bit of the RNA for life. They have not created life by a long shot. But even if they did, their methods would have been way different than the things that evolution theory evolution says. The basic thing that ETE says is that nature did it. This is way different than scientists creating.

We have no emphatic, strong evidence for ETE. And we certainly don't have any proof. ETE is simply a story that some people want to propagate for whatever reason... usually for money in some way.

Evolution is a complete hoax.

[bananacue]

I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

[af_newbie]

I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?

[BADecker]

I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?

Is this a test? You keep on asking it after people keep on answering you. Maybe you should start a thread. Maybe you should go the PM route.

[af_newbie]

I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?

Is this a test? You keep on asking it after people keep on answering you. Maybe you should start a thread. Maybe you should go the PM route.

Maybe you should buy a clue and answer the question. Instead of saying it is 'love'.

Emotions don't start universes.

[bananacue]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

It's a hoax, there was no definite evidence to prove such. It remains a theory at all.

[BADecker]

I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?

Is this a test? You keep on asking it after people keep on answering you. Maybe you should start a thread. Maybe you should go the PM route.

Maybe you should buy a clue and answer the question. Instead of saying it is 'love'.

Emotions don't start universes.

I and others have answered. But, just for you, one more time.

God is love. But the kind of love He is, is perfect love. Scientifically or other, nobody understands it. So, nobody knows what God is. We could add things like Father, Creator, Eternal Life... and if you look it up via an Internet search, you can find all kinds of other things that God is. What more do you need?

Are you hiring someone to do your own Net search for you?

How do you know emotions don't start universes? Yours might simply be too weak.

God has no beginning or end. God doesn't have a creator.

If this isn't satisfactory for you, you will need to explain your questions in better detail. And you can do it, because God loves your soul.

Btw, you still haven't shown any proof for evolution. Evolution is a hoax.

[af_newbie]

I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?

Is this a test? You keep on asking it after people keep on answering you. Maybe you should start a thread. Maybe you should go the PM route.

Maybe you should buy a clue and answer the question. Instead of saying it is 'love'.

Emotions don't start universes.

I and others have answered. But, just for you, one more time.

God is love. But the kind of love He is, is perfect love. Scientifically or other, nobody understands it. So, nobody knows what God is. We could add things like Father, Creator, Eternal Life... and if you look it up via an Internet search, you can find all kinds of other things that God is. What more do you need?

Are you hiring someone to do your own Net search for you?

How do you know emotions don't start universes? Yours might simply be too weak.

God has no beginning or end. God doesn't have a creator.

If this isn't satisfactory for you, you will need to explain your questions in better detail. And you can do it, because God loves your soul.

Btw, you still haven't shown any proof for evolution. Evolution is a hoax.

If nobody knows what God is, why are you saying that God is love?

If nobody knows what God is, then why are you believing in something that you cannot even define.

Do you see a problem with your position?  You think you believe in something called God but you don't know what it is.

It is funny that people assign names to things they cannot even describe.  Linguistic failure.

BTW, if God is love, then this God of yours only exists in human brains.  That is where human emotions reside.

[BADecker]

I and others have answered. But, just for you, one more time.

God is love. But the kind of love He is, is perfect love. Scientifically or other, nobody understands it. So, nobody knows what God is. We could add things like Father, Creator, Eternal Life... and if you look it up via an Internet search, you can find all kinds of other things that God is. What more do you need?

Are you hiring someone to do your own Net search for you?

How do you know emotions don't start universes? Yours might simply be too weak.

God has no beginning or end. God doesn't have a creator.

If this isn't satisfactory for you, you will need to explain your questions in better detail. And you can do it, because God loves your soul.

Btw, you still haven't shown any proof for evolution. Evolution is a hoax.

If nobody knows what God is, why are you saying that God is love?

If nobody knows what God is, then why are you believing in something that you cannot even define.

Do you see a problem with your position?  You think you believe in something called God but you don't know what it is.

It is funny that people assign names to things they cannot even describe.  Linguistic failure.

BTW, if God is love, then this God of yours only exists in human brains.  That is where human emotions reside.

Scientifically speaking, nobody really knows what love is.

Defining something doesn't have anything to do with knowing it exists, or believing attributes about it.

Science and the Bible show that God exists. So, I believe the things God says through His Word.

It's funny that some people want to deny the existence of some things that they can't explain. Do you deny the existence of gravity? Welcome to notbatman's world.

Love isn't only emotion in humans. God's love is proven in that He gave up His only Son, Jesus, into death to save as many of the rest of us as are willing to believe.

Why do you enjoy being off-topic all the time? God's love never evolved. It always existed.

Evolution is a hoax.

[styca]

The mountain of evidence for evolution, fits other things better. Anybody can make up a science fiction story like evolution that might fit the evidence.
Since there is no proof for evolution, all we can say is maybe. But since the evidence fits God-creation better, the "maybe" dwindles to nothing.

The evidence for evolution is just that - evidence for evolution. Fossil records. Radiocarbon dating. You can for example trace the evolution of legs in animals, from long-ago primitive proto-limbs that allowed animals to scrabble about a bit, to the powerful limbs today, adapted for strength (elephants) or speed (cheetahs) etc. You can even see human-directed evolution, such as dog breeds, or how our modern fruit and vegetables can differ wildly from their 'natural' ancestors. You can see it in how you look similar to your parents and siblings, how you look less similar (but still fairly similar) to your cousins, how you look very different to strangers.
It's literally everywhere, both in the past and here right now.

'God' I still contend is just a word for the science that people either don't understand or aren't willing to accept.


Here is a manatee flipper. Manatees live in the sea. The flipper has toenails, it has hairs, it looks very much like an elephant's foot. This is because manatees and elephants share a common ancestor, about 50 million years ago.



Evolution is everywhere!

[styca]

I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

We aren't descended from gorillas, we aren't descended from modern-day animals. We have a common ancestor with gorillas. Everything is evolving, all the time. Humans are evolving. Gorillas are evolving. The creature that both humans and gorillas evolved from no longer exists. If you could trace my family tree back for hundreds of thousands of years, and you could do the same with a gorilla, you'd reach a point where our ancestors are the same species.

If you trace my family tree back through however many millions of years, my great-times-whatever-grandfather is a fish. So is yours. It sounds absurd because we humans have no concept of the truly vast timescales involved.

Who created the first animal? Chemistry did. Simple organic molecules combining in some water somewhere. Scientists have recreated RNA generation in the lab, as I've linked to previously. Evolution is awe-inspiring. Have a read on how multi-cellular life evolved.

Evolution is real.

_{(c) BADecker}

[BADecker]

The mountain of evidence for evolution, fits other things better. Anybody can make up a science fiction story like evolution that might fit the evidence.
Since there is no proof for evolution, all we can say is maybe. But since the evidence fits God-creation better, the "maybe" dwindles to nothing.

The evidence for evolution is just that - evidence for evolution. Fossil records. Radiocarbon dating. You can for example trace the evolution of legs in animals, from long-ago primitive proto-limbs that allowed animals to scrabble about a bit, to the powerful limbs today, adapted for strength (elephants) or speed (cheetahs) etc. You can even see human-directed evolution, such as dog breeds, or how our modern fruit and vegetables can differ wildly from their 'natural' ancestors. You can see it in how you look similar to your parents and siblings, how you look less similar (but still fairly similar) to your cousins, how you look very different to strangers.
It's literally everywhere, both in the past and here right now.

'God' I still contend is just a word for the science that people either don't understand or aren't willing to accept.


Here is a manatee flipper. Manatees live in the sea. The flipper has toenails, it has hairs, it looks very much like an elephant's foot. This is because manatees and elephants share a common ancestor, about 50 million years ago.

https://wp-assets.futurism.com/2013/11/Trichechus_manatus_fg01.jpg

Evolution is everywhere!

All these things you talk about, have no proof that they are evolution. So far we don't have a clue that they are evolution. But we absolutely DO know that they might be some form of simple change some of the time. And we have all kinds of non-evolution adaptation. And we are loaded with examples - essentially the whole world - of like begetting like.

Everything you say fits one of these three without fitting evolution. However, if anybody is unsure, all he has to do is see that there are countless forms of cause and effect, but absolutely no known form of spontaneous, pure random. C&E is programming. There is no way to program the complexity of life without a highly intelligent programmer. And the intelligence that formed life working the way it does on Earth, fits our definition of God.

Evolution is a half-wit hoax.

[styca]

You are so close, you believe almost every part of evolution except the random mutations.
The random/pseudorandom/decided by physics aspect is a technicality, it's not relevant.

It's not just that there is one positive mutation every few generations. There are loads of minor mutations all the time, most detrimental to survival, but a very few are beneficial. It is therefore these few that get selected via survival of the fittest.

[BADecker]

^^^ I know. That's all you have left.

If evolution were scientific, you might have some evidence for it. But since it isn't scientific in its own right, all you have left to promote your evolution religion is, talk in the form of political science.

Why would anyone use political science? Because political science is the science of getting what you want through any means you can, honest or dishonest, true or false, right or wrong. But if you have no other way, then talk, talk, talk. Since evolution has no science of its own, all that's left for it is political science.

Why does God leave this opening for dishonest people? Because He is hoping that they will change and become truthful... find Jesus-salvation, and be saved. The destruction of the soul is no little matter. It's a loss that is dynamically felt in the way that God would feel if He were destroyed.

But, God won the fight against destruction. He won it in Jesus, with the hopes that people would win it as well. Continual talking against God - especially in the face of proof for God - is pushing one's self towards destruction.

So, I guess if you don't change, and continue to look to believe in things false, I will have been part of your greater destruction. Greater because if you had never heard of the proof that God exists, and had never had it explained to you, and simply lived a rather hum-drum evolution-faith life, rather than adamantly believing in a direction against God, your destruction would have been much less. But now that you directly fight God, when the time comes, He will directly fight you.

You still have time. Change while you can. Start by recognizing that evolution is a complete hoax.

[af_newbie]

^^^ I know. That's all you have left.

If evolution were scientific, you might have some evidence for it. But since it isn't scientific in its own right, all you have left to promote your evolution religion is, talk in the form of political science.

Why would anyone use political science? Because political science is the science of getting what you want through any means you can, honest or dishonest, true or false, right or wrong. But if you have no other way, then talk, talk, talk. Since evolution has no science of its own, all that's left for it is political science.

Why does God leave this opening for dishonest people? Because He is hoping that they will change and become truthful... find Jesus-salvation, and be saved. The destruction of the soul is no little matter. It's a loss that is dynamically felt in the way that God would feel if He were destroyed.

But, God won the fight against destruction. He won it in Jesus, with the hopes that people would win it as well. Continual talking against God - especially in the face of proof for God - is pushing one's self towards destruction.

So, I guess if you don't change, and continue to look to believe in things false, I will have been part of your greater destruction. Greater because if you had never heard of the proof that God exists, and had never had it explained to you, and simply lived a rather hum-drum evolution-faith life, rather than adamantly believing in a direction against God, your destruction would have been much less. But now that you directly fight God, when the time comes, He will directly fight you.

You still have time. Change while you can. Start by recognizing that evolution is a complete hoax.

Even Pope conceded that evolution and the Big Bang are real observable facts.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html

He just put a spin on it that God is behind it. LOL.