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July 22, 2017, 05:28:07 PM
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During an interview with a woman about that 37 Moon thing which of course was a hoax, she actually stated that she believes that there is no such thing as space. She actually said that space was a government conspiracy made up and that space itself did not exist.


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During an interview with a woman about that 37 Moon thing which of course was a hoax, she actually stated that she believes that there is no such thing as space. She actually said that space was a government conspiracy made up and that space itself did not exist.

You really need to read every last word of the Flat Earth thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.0.

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July 22, 2017, 07:13:35 PM
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What it shows is that is wrong. If they knew the real one, why not use that instead of using a simple example that is flawed?

No. What it shows is that you are afraid of saying anything that makes sense.

What what?
What it?
What showing?
Which that?
What is the wrongness?

They who?
which real what?
What that?
Which simple example of what?
What flaw?

You seem to be moving towards mindlessness.

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http://www.icr.org/article/mathematical-impossibility-evolution/ This link is the argument against evolution.

This is the response: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/n832l/the_mathematical_impossibility_of_evolution_can/

I think it's pretty simple to understand that the calculated probability is simply wrong since it doesn't take in count many important factors and it's just assuming things.

It's kinda like taking a look at nature, and assuming there is any evolution at all. Since evolution has never been seen happening, and anything that somebody says is evolution can be shown to be other things instead, all of evolution is a make-believe story.

Now, if this were the only point against evolution, the odds that evolution was false would be astronomical. But add to it things like
- the probability against the parts coming together,
- Irreducible Complexity,
- the fact that nature must have been smarter than scientists to be able to do what scientists can't,
- machinery design of nature that points to an Intelligent Designer,
- cause and effect programming,
- entropy that shows that things devolve rather than evolve,
- the fact that in the few cases where nature makes complex chemicals that it destroys them almost immediately,
- and many other things that you can find when you Google search for them...
shows that the entire probability against evolution is way beyond what science considers necessary for there to even be a chance that evolution happened.

Evolution isn't just a hoax. It is a grand hoax.

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- the probability against the parts coming together, (Which is what? What parts?) - Any and all the parts of anything that is considered to make up so-called evolution.
- Irreducible Complexity, (Which is debunked, you can google it for yourself) - The debunking is simply talk-arounds, thereby debunking itself, and showing that evolution is not real.
- the fact that nature must have been smarter than scientists to be able to do what scientists can't, (How is that a fact? Does nature have to be smarter than a scientist to create mountains?) - Yes. Mountains don't appear all over the place. But the DO exist. So, let a scientist make one. Or let someone show us the process whereby they were made. Nature must be way smarter to make something that scientists cannot... especially mountains and planets and stars and you-name-it... and so smart that science is only guessing about how all those things might have formed.
- machinery design of nature that points to an Intelligent Designer, (I don't know what that means) - Of course you don't. You can't seem to see the machines in nature all around us. The simple lever that we use is being used by nature all over the place, both macro, and micro.
- cause and effect programming, (?) - Science could not break the laws of physics and nature even in the hydrogen bomb. All they did was put together some cause and effect actions that they were caused to do by some other cause and effect... exactly as the cause and effect had them do it... according to the physics and laws of nature. Everything is programmed to exist and act the way it does by cause and effect. Our goal should be to find out what programmed the cause and effect process, and to find out if that programmer ever travels through time, back to the beginning, to remake it a little here and there.
- entropy that shows that things devolve rather than evolve, (You do not understand entropy, stop mentioning it xd) - Basically, entropy is the changing of complexity into simplicity without the loss or gain of any of the components of either. Entropy is universal on Earth. The few things we can see off-planet show us that it is universal out there as well.
- the fact that in the few cases where nature makes complex chemicals that it destroys them almost immediately, (Such as?) - My mistake. Nature doesn't make complex chemicals. No evolution.
- and many other things that you can find when you Google search for them... (Everything you said can be googled and you can find rebuttals to everything lol) - The rebuttals are not rebuttals. They are talk, backwards talk showing things that do not happen in nature, talk-arounds, non-proven talk, etc. The so-called rebuttals are part of the science that shows evolution to be impossible. They are part of the evolution hoax, because they are not rebuttals at all.
shows that the entire probability against evolution is way beyond what science considers necessary for there to even be a chance that evolution happened.


Evolution is a big, fat hoax. At best, it is a religion.

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Your arguments are not arguments, they are talk, backwards talk showing that they are false. Your arguments are simply talk-arounds therefore debunking themselves and showing that evolution is real

If this is what you truly think, pick a point, and explain what is wrong with it. Using the words of other people to do this shows you do not personally, really know.

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If that is what you think, pick a rebuttal and explain what is wrong with it using your own words and not other creationists who just use the same flawed arguments.

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July 22, 2017, 07:30:44 PM
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During an interview with a woman about that 37 Moon thing which of course was a hoax, she actually stated that she believes that there is no such thing as space. She actually said that space was a government conspiracy made up and that space itself did not exist.

There is no spoon !  Shocked
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During an interview with a woman about that 37 Moon thing which of course was a hoax, she actually stated that she believes that there is no such thing as space. She actually said that space was a government conspiracy made up and that space itself did not exist.

There is no spoon !  Shocked
I do not understand. What is not yet, but that all the negation of the cosmos and the round earth, this is perhaps delirium of Pure water.

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July 22, 2017, 08:53:52 PM
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During an interview with a woman about that 37 Moon thing which of course was a hoax, she actually stated that she believes that there is no such thing as space. She actually said that space was a government conspiracy made up and that space itself did not exist.

There is no spoon !  Shocked
I do not understand. What is not yet, but that all the negation of the cosmos and the round earth, this is perhaps delirium of Pure water.

Everything is an illusion  Grin

It's zen principle lol


Moreover, Zen firmly believes that nobody knows the answers to those questions and that they are impossible to answer because of our limited condition. Life is a dream, a grand illusion that we perceive through the filter of our personality, our experiences, our ego. This is a great piece of theater in which we do not see all the actors and in which we barely understand the role of those that we see.

Zen gladly accepts the idea that men are only men and nothing more. Man, being what he is, cannot answer life's impossible questions without falling into the trap of illusion. No one knows the answers to the deep questions about life and death.



The spoon is from matrix when neo see the Oracle with the Kids trying to bend the spoon, saying like if you want to bend the spoon, you must change your perception of reality or something Smiley

The final conclusion is there is no spoon at all. The only thing that exists is the concept of the spoon in the mind.

It's more or less what they say in "What the bleep do we know"
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July 22, 2017, 09:04:11 PM
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So you are saying that two people just popped on the Earth surface sent by some mythological creature? And what's the source a book written by humans? Obviously humans developed from some kind of organism just like any other creatures on these planet. It doesn't matter which book you follow blindly (Bible, Quran,Bhagvat Geeta, etc). But there's isn't a single theory to prove that the contents of these books are right let alone facts.
I never stated in this post that God isn't there. I'm agnostic. That's why I live by facts and rational thinking.
Well thats my opinion.
 
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July 22, 2017, 09:23:37 PM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

Why are you still around when there are intelligent human beings?
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July 22, 2017, 09:26:23 PM
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I do not believe in the theory of evolution , Because the theory is not clear

No, it's because you're a fanatic!
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July 22, 2017, 10:35:59 PM
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I'm agnostic. That's why I live by facts and rational thinking.
Well thats my opinion.
 


I dont see how you can think rationalism has a purpose while being agnostic Smiley

Rationalism suppose rational truth => gnostic ,  no ? Smiley
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July 22, 2017, 11:05:33 PM
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I believe that evolution is tru however there are lots of evolution are made people are came to this into this etc. Those philosopher who create a booked and say they knew about when human come from first where in the history of human being now and i read too much evolutions sometimes it really hard to believe tho.
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So you are saying that two people just popped on the Earth surface sent by some mythological creature? And what's the source a book written by humans? Obviously humans developed from some kind of organism just like any other creatures on these planet. It doesn't matter which book you follow blindly (Bible, Quran,Bhagvat Geeta, etc). But there's isn't a single theory to prove that the contents of these books are right let alone facts.
I never stated in this post that God isn't there. I'm agnostic. That's why I live by facts and rational thinking.
Well thats my opinion.
 

I never stated in this post that God isn't there.

 That's why I live by facts and rational thinking. ..       Not by LOGIC though ..

Here is some LOGIC for you ..

You know because of SCIENCE a man like being never went ZAP and everything was so..

BUT you say well might be a god?..
OK then if it's not a god that's in all the bibles or any preachers manuals Koran and what not
WHO or WHAT does your god look like and why is it a GOD by your definition of a god..

I.E your own made up god..
You don't believe bible god so who is your god now REMEMBER god is in the image of MAN in the bible ..

Now imagine it was a FUZZY BALL of light that some how made this planet is that a god?..
If it's aliens is that a god?..

YOUR agnostic   then you are religious Wink YOU BELIEVE IN GOD Wink..

Are you saying well might be one in case you go to hell ..
So IF you do meet god you can say OH god i still did have a belief in you .
PUSSY Wink..

Agnostic is a just in case there is a god so i can say i did believe ..
You pussy ..

IF A GOD MAKE EVERYONE RICH THEN Wink..No more poor .
No starving no needing it's all  in abundance ..

Suppose to be a god of abundance ...In India somewhere  Cheesy..
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July 23, 2017, 12:17:59 AM
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Here is some LOGIC for you ..

You know because of SCIENCE a man like being never went ZAP and everything was so..

Here is some logic for you ...

A non-man-like being SPOKE the universe into being.

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July 23, 2017, 12:31:44 AM
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Koran and what not
WHO or WHAT does your god look like and why is it a GOD by your definition of a god..

I.E your own made up god..
You don't believe bible god so who is your god now REMEMBER god is in the image of MAN in the bible ..



Just look around you, inside you.

Then you can make your own god too  Grin
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July 23, 2017, 03:23:41 AM
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I do not believe in the theory of evolution , Because the theory is not clear

No, it's because you're a fanatic!

Very true. There are only true groups of people. The first one believes in the theory of evolution. The second group is consisted of mostly religious nuts, who believe in the theory of creation. There is nothing in between.

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I do not believe in the theory of evolution , Because the theory is not clear

No, it's because you're a fanatic!

Very true. There are only true groups of people. The first one believes in the theory of evolution. The second group is consisted of mostly religious nuts, who believe in the theory of creation. There is nothing in between.

You sure do look very knowledgeable about groups of people lol
Are you a bot or something ? Lol

Do you live in soviet union where you divide people between the politically correct who believe the good theory and the others ?  Smiley

Of course evolution poped out 100% correct day one 200 years ago, never moved, and it formed a group of  borgs who are all part of the same first group and all agree on every single bit of how we got there  lol
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July 23, 2017, 03:47:32 AM
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For me, i dont believe that we came from monkeys. I believe that we came into this world as a fully functioning human. I just think that if we did came from monkeys then the monkeys that we see today should have given us signs that they are slowly turning into humans.


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July 23, 2017, 03:48:43 AM
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To prove evolution, you just need to look at dogs.  Smiley

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July 23, 2017, 05:46:34 AM
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For me, i dont believe that we came from monkeys. I believe that we came into this world as a fully functioning human. I just think that if we did came from monkeys then the monkeys that we see today should have given us signs that they are slowly turning into humans.
then the monkeys that we see today should have given us signs that they are slowly turning into humans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFR4a9vcri4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewGaIbBGx-Q

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July 23, 2017, 05:59:53 AM
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Here is some LOGIC for you ..

You know because of SCIENCE a man like being never went ZAP and everything was so..

Here is some logic for you ...

A non-man-like being SPOKE the universe into being.

Cool
But in YOUR manual it's says god is in the image of man?..

So according to your MANUAL you are a blasphemer..
Well your going to hell Wink..

No i never said your manual does .. Grin
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