Evolution is a hoax

[IadixDev]

Many Christians perceive a conflict between reason and faith. On the one hand, God tells us to reason (Isaiah 1:18). We are to have a good reason for what we believe, and we are to be always ready to share that reason with other people (1 Peter 3:15). So we attempt to show unbelievers that our belief in the Scriptures is reasonable, justified, and logically defensible. The Bible makes sense.

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[Astargath]

The same can be told for science

Every scientific theory is backed up by evidence and proof, I don't know what you mean. Science requires that observations can be replicated. The observations on which evolution is based, including comparative anatomy, genetics, and fossils, are replicable. In many cases, you can repeat the observations yourself.

Repeatable experiments, including experiments about mutations and natural selection in the laboratory and in the field, also support evolution. To be sure, scientific claims are based on, and tested against, evidence drawn from the natural world, rather than dictated by an authoritarian leadership. Therefore, and nonetheless, the scientists who have gathered and analyzed the data that have shaped the scientific understanding of evolution are surely the most qualified to speak as to the nature and weight of the physical evidence. Likewise, professional practitioners and researchers in science education are naturally best situated to remark on the value and relative importance of a given concept when it comes to the teaching and learning of science.

The scientific consensus it's achieved by looking at the evidence. There is no belief based on faith in science.

[popcorn1]

The origin of religion come from need for civilisation.

First religion were in sumer or egypt, they made lot of progress. In mathematics, astronomy etc.

Judaism bring a lot to understanding of universe.

The concept of monotheism is fundemental to get to the point where the concept of science can emerge.

Christianism made revolution and radically changed society.

The need for religion is to recognize between good person or bad person, when it come to build laws to civilise people.

Historically, all concept of law at core of civilisation come from religion.

Science is not so usefull to understand legal maters. What make people better.

And neither is religion, you only need your own logic and reasoning. How did religion in egypt make progress in maths? What did religion have to do with that? What understanding of the universe does judaism bring? Christianism did a lot of bad things as well. There is no need for religion specially when any religion definition starts with ''a set of beliefs'' and those set of beliefs aren't based on anything but faith.

Religion doesnt preclude reasoning and logic lol

On the contrary, the whole idea of logic as truth / logos come from religion.

The first idea of rationalism, need for reasoning, understanding come from religion.

There is nit really much that is not based on faith lol

Reread godbel. .

Can say university is also social conditioning at the same title than religion.

Most people who learn science is for social /  professionnal / economic  goals more than anything.

Fact ..Religion come from THUNDER..Stories from Thunder to control..
It could be to control your children or tell stories to control..

RELIGION all originally come from THUNDER.. FACT..

Cavemen times the thunder god will get you SO BEHAVE  ..
Then as humans we start to tell LIES..

We HUMANS ARE BORN LIARS..It's fact we are born liars it helps us to get ahead
WE ARE PROGRAMMED LIARS..

When we get older we hope to stop telling lies ..

before we worshipped gods we would worship our ancestors and they would be looking down on us..
They was our gods..

All stories to make you BEHAVE to control..
We invented these stories to control..

RELIGION IS ABOUT CONTROL..FACT..

To make you behave in a certain way..

When i was a caveman i would say to my naughty children you best behave because the THUNDER
will get you ..
And the fact we are born LIARS we will make all sorts of stories up and over many many years
of telling lies to control we are in this situation today with RELIGIOUS FREAKS..

And all they are doing is lying to themselves and their children ..
Just like the cavemen telling the children to behave with the THUNDER GOD..

Why Kids Lie - YouTube
Video for children are born liars youtube▶ 6:06
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Kids aren't born knowing that lying is bad. It's something they have to figure out. They gradually understand ..

LYING is programmed into humans it helps you get a head..
Did you eat that food NO not me so maybe i can get some more..Programmed to get ahead..

Humans are BORN LIARS some carry it on and some grow out of it..
But all will still tell lies to get ahead..

How many lie about their tax bills ?..Born to lie to get ahead..

And RELIGION IS ONE BIG LIE..

[IadixDev]

Define control 

[Astargath]

Define control 

Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you, therefore achieving control over the population at the time.

[IadixDev]

Define control  

Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you,

Science apeared because of ignorance too, if we already knew everything and being perfectly happy in a world of peace we wouldnt need neither science or religion.

therefore achieving control over the population at the time.

Define control  

If you dont I will give you the definition to show how this sentence is not as meaningful as you would think it is

[Astargath]

Define control  

Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you,

Science apeared because of ignorance too, if we already knew everything and being perfectly happy in a world of peace we wouldnt need neither science or religion.

therefore achieving control over the population at the time.

Define control  

If you dont I will give you the definition to show how this sentence is not as meaningful as you would think it is

You could basically make people do whatever you wanted, if you were a preacher or maybe the witch who sees the future and consults with the king. You could tell the people that God is angry and he needs this or that and they would obey, that's my definition of control.

[popcorn1]

Define control 

A vicar you call him your father because you are his children and don't know any better..

Just like when i was a caveman and i would tell my children to behave or the thunder will get them..

You are children when really your an adult ..Control you with religion..

I am the king i am closer to god so do as i say..
I am a Vicar priest bishop pope do as i say or you will burn in hell you blasphemer OR maybe if you give me your land i wont let you die for blasphemy..

CONTROL ..

[popcorn1]

Define control  

Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you, therefore achieving control over the population at the time.

Religion appeared because of ignorance..NO BECAUSE OF THE THUNDER..

Just think when you was a child and the stories you would get told to frighten you
Like a ghost story and then they say after the story if you don't stop doing this i will get the ghost
the monsters or hell BUT you have been told a STORY to get you thinking about these monsters gods ghost and what not..

Now just think the BIBLES are stories to get you thinking JUST like when your a child getting told a GHOST STORY..

To control how you BEHAVE..

STORIES make you think..

Don't do that or you will die.. OH WHAT EVER..

Don't do that because some guy i knew once done this AND off you go with your stories to hit home more..
But all about CONTROL..

Nothing to do with ignorance we likes STORIES

[BADecker]

Define control  

Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you, therefore achieving control over the population at the time.

Religion appeared because of ignorance..NO BECAUSE OF THE THUNDER..

Just think when you was a child and the stories you would get told to frighten you
Like a ghost story and then they say after the story if you don't stop doing this i will get the ghost
the monsters or hell BUT you have been told a STORY to get you thinking about these monsters gods ghost and what not..

Now just think the BIBLES are stories to get you thinking JUST like when your a child getting told a GHOST STORY..

To control how you BEHAVE..

STORIES make you think..

Don't do that or you will die.. OH WHAT EVER..

Don't do that because some guy i knew once done this AND off you go with your stories to hit home more..
But all about CONTROL..

Nothing to do with ignorance we likes STORIES

But the Bible isn't fiction. Study the history of how the Bible came about. Study it in detail, and you will see that it is a historical, written record of events that happened.

[BADecker]

Define control 

A vicar you call him your father because you are his children and don't know any better..

Just like when i was a caveman and i would tell my children to behave or the thunder will get them..

You are children when really your an adult ..Control you with religion..

I am the king i am closer to god so do as i say..
I am a Vicar priest bishop pope do as i say or you will burn in hell you blasphemer OR maybe if you give me your land i wont let you die for blasphemy..

CONTROL ..

I'm so sad for you, that you had to bring your kids up in a cave.

I'm so happy for you that you found a place to live.

 

[popcorn1]

Define control  

Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you, therefore achieving control over the population at the time.

Religion appeared because of ignorance..NO BECAUSE OF THE THUNDER..

Just think when you was a child and the stories you would get told to frighten you
Like a ghost story and then they say after the story if you don't stop doing this i will get the ghost
the monsters or hell BUT you have been told a STORY to get you thinking about these monsters gods ghost and what not..

Now just think the BIBLES are stories to get you thinking JUST like when your a child getting told a GHOST STORY..

To control how you BEHAVE..

STORIES make you think..

Don't do that or you will die.. OH WHAT EVER..

Don't do that because some guy i knew once done this AND off you go with your stories to hit home more..
But all about CONTROL..

Nothing to do with ignorance we likes STORIES

But the Bible isn't fiction. Study the history of how the Bible came about. Study it in detail, and you will see that it is a historical, written record of events that happened.

Apollo RA ZEUS  written record of events that happened ..
And before the BIBLE..

And funny how Jews don't even know of a JESUS  ..

[popcorn1]

Define control 

A vicar you call him your father because you are his children and don't know any better..

Just like when i was a caveman and i would tell my children to behave or the thunder will get them..

You are children when really your an adult ..Control you with religion..

I am the king i am closer to god so do as i say..
I am a Vicar priest bishop pope do as i say or you will burn in hell you blasphemer OR maybe if you give me your land i wont let you die for blasphemy..

CONTROL ..

I'm so sad for you, that you had to bring your kids up in a cave.

I'm so happy for you that you found a place to live.

 

Yes it was very cold in my cave until i found out there was a betting shop around the cave
so i popped in and placed a bet and WON loads of CASH ..

Know i live in a 3 bed central heated house and have broadband so i can bet all day and buy loads of
FREEEE    CRYPTO..

So thanks for your concerns BUT I AM doing just fine and DANDY ..

[Astargath]

Define control  

Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you, therefore achieving control over the population at the time.

Religion appeared because of ignorance..NO BECAUSE OF THE THUNDER..

Just think when you was a child and the stories you would get told to frighten you
Like a ghost story and then they say after the story if you don't stop doing this i will get the ghost
the monsters or hell BUT you have been told a STORY to get you thinking about these monsters gods ghost and what not..

Now just think the BIBLES are stories to get you thinking JUST like when your a child getting told a GHOST STORY..

To control how you BEHAVE..

STORIES make you think..

Don't do that or you will die.. OH WHAT EVER..

Don't do that because some guy i knew once done this AND off you go with your stories to hit home more..
But all about CONTROL..

Nothing to do with ignorance we likes STORIES

But the Bible isn't fiction. Study the history of how the Bible came about. Study it in detail, and you will see that it is a historical, written record of events that happened.

Throughout recorded history people have sought to understand their environment and to control it. When they could do neither, they invented gods to explain it. That's why the ancients had a god for every conceivable thing they might not understand or might need help with. (Imagine that you are an ancient parent and your child asks you "what causes thunder"? Not wishing to appear ignorant, you say something like "the god of thunder" is doing it or maybe "the angels are bowling!).

Over time, such explanations become cultural elements and people start to believe them (or at least pretend to believe them in order to curry favor). We see remnants of this in concepts like Santa Claus, which our society and culture "accept" and continue to promulgate to our children even though all adults know it is a myth.

Another factor is that these myths enable us to control the behavior of others. By telling the children to behave or Santa Claus will not give them gifts, we are coercing them via a lie. Throughout history, those in charge of tribes, nations, and such have used promulgated religion and exploited it in more or less the same way ("if you join the crusades and fight for Christianity your soul will be saved"; "if you blow yourself up in the marketplace, someone will send you 100 virgins"). Science has slowly chipped away at many religious beliefs, which is one reason why many religions are so antagonistic toward science.

[popcorn1]

Define control 

A vicar you call him your father because you are his children and don't know any better..

Just like when i was a caveman and i would tell my children to behave or the thunder will get them..

You are children when really your an adult ..Control you with religion..

I am the king i am closer to god so do as i say..
I am a Vicar priest bishop pope do as i say or you will burn in hell you blasphemer OR maybe if you give me your land i wont let you die for blasphemy..

CONTROL ..

I'm so sad for you, that you had to bring your kids up in a cave.

I'm so happy for you that you found a place to live.

 

You believe this guy don't you Badecker ?

How do you think the pyramids were built? - Graham Hancock ...
Video for hancock how did they build the pyramids▶ 4:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U21uaEVINCY

1 man moving big slabs of stone imagine thousands of men..

AMAZING VIDEO: Man Lifts 20 Ton Block By Hand - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5pZ7uR6v8c


The Discovery of the Unfinished Step Pyramid of Sekhemkhet in ...
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The Discovery of the Unfinished Step Pyramid of Sekhemkhet in Saqqara (Featuring Dr Zahi Hawass .

But humans would make up stories about pyramids that aliens made them ..


Give a child some BLOCKS and they will almost build a pyramid ..
Just about the same shape as a MOUNTAIN ..

If aliens i could imagine something more futuristic than a mountain shape..

[IadixDev]

Wrong answer 

Control is a passive thing.

Control is checking the conformity to a model.

It come from catholic comparing register to check if they match.

Controling something doesnt change it's state.

[IadixDev]

Ignorance mean willing fully not seeing something.

Different from nescience.

Ignoring is an active decision not to see something.

What are people or population "ignoring" in the case ?

How can you blame religion for people ignoring things. . It's their decision.

And only knowledge of something give power on this thing.

So if religion enable power on something, it mean it contain knowledge about this thing.

If religion is false, or complete false hood, how can it be used to change intentionally anything ?

[IadixDev]

Define control  

Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you, therefore achieving control over the population at the time.

Religion appeared because of ignorance..NO BECAUSE OF THE THUNDER..

Just think when you was a child and the stories you would get told to frighten you
Like a ghost story and then they say after the story if you don't stop doing this i will get the ghost
the monsters or hell BUT you have been told a STORY to get you thinking about these monsters gods ghost and what not..

Now just think the BIBLES are stories to get you thinking JUST like when your a child getting told a GHOST STORY..

To control how you BEHAVE..

STORIES make you think..

Don't do that or you will die.. OH WHAT EVER..

Don't do that because some guy i knew once done this AND off you go with your stories to hit home more..
But all about CONTROL..

Nothing to do with ignorance we likes STORIES

Life is scary, if you are so much of a coward, brainwashing you with science or religion wont make much difference ..

And yes you can die, life is precarious.

That's even what darwin say, if you are too dumb to understand thunder, you will not survive ..

Religion did not invent death or thunder ..

And religion is not all about reward & punishment, job show this, if you only keep your faith to expect a reward , you are doing it wrong.

This stuff of reward / punishment conditioning is more pavlovian than anything ..

It's not really what religion are about.

Jesus died on the cross for his belief, rather than having his faith to avoid pb lol

His teaching was not especially about avoiding thunder ..

[popcorn1]

That's even what darwin say, if you are too dumb to understand thunder, ..

I used to say the same thing about father Christmas ..

Don't teach your children religion and say you don't believe it ..
Then when the child grows up try and teach them religion ..

Your children will think you gone CRAZY..

Teach my child about religion and her LOGIC makes her laugh at the THOUGHT ..

It all starts when your a child the brain washing ..
Try and brain wash an adult about 50 years old who has lived a bit ..

Oh the Thunder gods will get you when your 50 years old..
Oh the thunder gods will get you at 3 years old..

I thinks the 50 year old will laugh the 3 year old will be SCARED..

[popcorn1]

brainwashing you with science..
That's fine because then you need to show me PROOF..
Brainwashing me with fairy tales that hold no substance then i don't want to know..

You and i know humans come to be because the EARTH made us this way..
So now that you know that for FACT so then you ask how did we EVOLVE on this PLANET..

And that means EVOLUTION THEORIES ..