BW.com L21 - Litecoin (scrypt) ASIC miner - unofficial speculation thread

[Searing]

I just contacted BW and proposed a buy and review for one BW L21 Litecoin miner (like I have done previously with Hotmine company).
I know it is way below the MOQ of 100 units, but let's see what is their answer  

I contacted them on same 2 weeks ago. They have not replied.

[HagssFIN]

I got an answer from BW.
Let's see if I will have a review about BW L21 for you in August. 

[Truthchanter]

any news?

[HagssFIN]

They told me that the August batch is coming next and to be in contact with them near August.

[kurbeks]

It's near August now

[HagssFIN]

Yeah. I'm moving forward with the buying process at the moment.
I will start a new review thread here as soon as I have it and have had a proper look at it.
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There is now a short introduction video for the BW-L21 Litecoin miner.
It is pretty good video with lots of info, but the guy keeps mixing electrical units in wrong places (volts, watts, kilowatts etc.).  
Video: https://www.facebook.com/BWCOM1/videos/1207481296022406/

Top three new information from the video:
1. price is 2500USD including a PSU
2. minimum order quantity is 100 units
3. delivery is after three months you make the order

[bithaggle]

ive got a guy in my area selling these and ..

http://www.vnbitcoin.org/detailcalculationltc.php?name=LiteCoin_Mining_Rig&startdate=2017-08-07&costperunit=2999&wattperhour=950&gigahazarate=600000&daytoincrease=3&testlopfirst=-0&diffincrement=3.812&bitcoinperdollar=41&electriccostinput=.06&begindifflevel=442592

all the maths ive done suggests buying one of these for LTC will never make positive ROI, what gives? why are you getting excited, what have i missed?

[QuintLeo]

all the maths ive done suggests buying one of these for LTC will never make positive ROI, what gives? why are you getting excited, what have i missed?

 You appear to have a fairly high electric rate (I'm guessing 7-8 cents / kwh based on your "electric cost per day").

 I'd also estimate that you're using a "difficulty increase" factor that's a little on the too high side, but that MIGHT change if BW.com can get a significant number of these miners built (on top of the existing Bitmain L3+ and Innosilicon A4 production).

[kurbeks]

ive got a guy in my area selling these and ..

http://www.vnbitcoin.org/detailcalculationltc.php?name=LiteCoin_Mining_Rig&startdate=2017-08-07&costperunit=2999&wattperhour=950&gigahazarate=600000&daytoincrease=3&testlopfirst=-0&diffincrement=3.812&bitcoinperdollar=41&electriccostinput=.06&begindifflevel=442592

all the maths ive done suggests buying one of these for LTC will never make positive ROI, what gives? why are you getting excited, what have i missed?

1. You and as all these calc assume that only diff will go up but price won't follow.
2. You can mine more profitable coins than LTC with this.

[HagssFIN]

I made the payment today for 1x BW-L21 miner, now it is just up to UPS   DHL when I can get a good look at it and do the review thread.  
It is probably going to be next weeks tuesday or wednesday.

[Inka-mining]

In 4-5 days i receive 2 L21 in the european datacenter for testing. I will upload pics and info about hashing power.
Our COO was in hong kong doing shooping .... some antminers, avalons and L21 

[HagssFIN]

Cool. 
Then there is at least two of us to tell more about mining with the L21.

[Bulletdodger]

Can this be bought? Like right now?

Or same as Bitmain, waiting for a few months?

[HagssFIN]

Can this be bought? Like right now?

Or same as Bitmain, waiting for a few months?

See my previous post in this thread
 

Yeah. I'm moving forward with the buying process at the moment.
I will start a new review thread here as soon as I have it and have had a proper look at it.
_______

There is now a short introduction video for the BW-L21 Litecoin miner.
It is pretty good video with lots of info, but the guy keeps mixing electrical units in wrong places (volts, watts, kilowatts etc.).  
Video: https://www.facebook.com/BWCOM1/videos/1207481296022406/

Top three new information from the video:
1. price is 2500USD including a PSU
2. minimum order quantity is 100 units
3. delivery is after three months you make the order

By the way, I just received tracking number and the miner is on the way via DHL.
It probably is next week tuesday or wednesday when I will receive the miner and get a good look at it and make the review after that.

[geobull]

Hello where can I order L21 miner?   can't find page

nothing new still 100 UNITS minimum ?   where can we buy 2-3 units ?

[HagssFIN]

You only have to go few posts back and you see my link to the video that explains everything.
Ordering is done via e-mail.

[Bulletdodger]

You only have to go few posts back and you see my link to the video that explains everything.
Ordering is done via e-mail.

Ups, sorry, thanks.

I just read the first page. 

[Flep182]

You only have to go few posts back and you see my link to the video that explains everything.
Ordering is done via e-mail.

Would there be enough interest to do a group buy on these?

[kurbeks]

You only have to go few posts back and you see my link to the video that explains everything.
Ordering is done via e-mail.

Would there be enough interest to do a group buy on these?

Probably if they can ship before date Bitmain offers for L3+ when next batch comes out.

[Searing]

You only have to go few posts back and you see my link to the video that explains everything.
Ordering is done via e-mail.

Would there be enough interest to do a group buy on these?

Probably if they can ship before date Bitmain offers for L3+ when next batch comes out.

yeah but last I heard they want 2,500 bucks....so that is iffy, imho vs an L3+ say in bitmain's next lot

Some of this stuff is just too close to call on ordering..now if they were the same price...well then they likely could clean up beating bitmain

at least for that batch