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May 18, 2017, 10:28:48 PM
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Again, apologies to everyone who got burned by this guy. I've started a reputation thread about him: Please leave your experiences about djordjamayna here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1923887.0


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...I just wonder if his 20$ "Ebook" -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1843488.msg18934591#msg18934591 includes a lesson for running ponzis. maybe we can convince his vouchers to share us the method so we can "try" to recover our losses. (just an idea)
I have sent the vouch copy recipient BTCForJoe a PM explaining the situation and asking for the e-books.  If I receive them, I will share them privately with other scammed members via PM in order to help recoup losses if needed.  If not, I will PM other vouch copy recipients in an attempt to find what he was selling.

I've received the request. Unfortunately, I am not at liberty to share the vouch copies of the methods that he has sent me to review. Whether he scammed you guys or not, I am not the kind of reviewer that will disclose information that was given to me under the pretenses of maintaining privacy. In a nutshell, as much as I hate to say this, I was not scammed by djordamayna. Therefore I'd rather keep my integrity by not distributing the vouch copies that he has sent me.

However, I will say this. The methods are definitely not proprietary, nor do I believe that they were djordjamayna's to sell in the first place. In a couple of the methods, hackforums was mentioned, which means that they were guides that were probably downloaded from HF.

So let's make a deal. If you can convince me that you will do everything you can to prove that these are, in fact, stolen guides (by finding the reference in Hack Forums), I will gladly share the ebooks with you, privately. This is not (and will not) be a distribution of these books on my part. I am ONLY going to send them to the first person that I feel is trustworthy enough to find the original references of where they were stolen from. If, and only if, they were stolen, then I will personally message the authors of the ebooks to let them know what djordjamayna has done. It is then upon whoever I have sent the ebooks to to do with the books as they wish.

I, personally, don't like the fact that you'll be distributing ebooks that were authored by someone that is losing a sale because of djordjamayna's dishonesty, but that will be on YOU, not me.

This is my disclaimer. If you can commit to being the researcher to find these methods to verify that they have been stolen/resold, then please send reply in this thread (DO NOT PM ME) so that I can select who I feel is the most trustworthy. I will then send that person a PM with a one-time use link to download the methods.

I'll give this 24 hours before I make a decision.

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May 18, 2017, 11:26:07 PM
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This is a huge lesson I'll never forget in my first month of bitcoin trading/investments. I can't believe how stupid and complacent I was to the red flags in other sites he did his activities. Most of us were litterally a few clicks away to research his username.

Good thing I never placed all my eggs in one basket, but .56 btc is at least 3 months of basic salary in my country, or more considering the rise in value here.

Boy what a story to tell.
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May 19, 2017, 04:45:36 AM
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I bought one of his ebooks. I too think it was stolen. Anyway, there was nothing new in there so..

Not sure why people are asking for the ebooks. Let's face it people: He scammed again. There's nothing we can do... I'm pretty sure that a con artist like this is almost untraceable. Sad
I think we shouldn't put too much time in this. If he had choosen a different nickname, we wouldn't be able to "link" his nick to other forums at all so...
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May 19, 2017, 07:27:23 AM
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I bought one of his ebooks. I too think it was stolen...

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Oooohhh

I thought no one would buy his ebooks... so you and a few other people who bought his ebooks were cheated.

Frankly this guy has overcome some scammers that have here in the forum ... at least Quickseller still continues to maintain the ranking of the biggest scammer of bitcointalk

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May 19, 2017, 09:21:25 AM
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First of all i am truly sorry for your loss, But I agree with BTCforJoe. I can't give the 5 e-books which i received and trust me they won't make you any life changing amounts and you will have to work with good effort to get some results. If i give now, I won't be trust-able in the future. No matter what the scenario, I can't break the agreement which was made when i received the vouch copy. I hope you will understand that...

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May 19, 2017, 11:20:14 AM
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Just out of interest, is it possible for someone to get amazon gift cards 50% or 60% cheaper? That's what he said his business is.

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May 19, 2017, 12:13:00 PM
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Just out of interest, is it possible for someone to get amazon gift cards 50% or 60% cheaper? That's what he said his business is.

Its almost impossible to get amazon gift cards at that rate unless if its carded or stolen. His statement is just a made up lie.
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May 19, 2017, 01:04:31 PM
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Just out of interest, is it possible for someone to get amazon gift cards 50% or 60% cheaper? That's what he said his business is.

Its almost impossible to get amazon gift cards at that rate unless if its carded or stolen. His statement is just a made up lie.

I don't think it's a lie. He was e-whoring as one of his money-making techniques. E-whoring is a greyhat method of pretending to be a female in the hopes that a victim will pay you to send nude pics/videos to them. djordjamayna would allegedly receive payments as amazon gift cards from these victims, and then sell them here at a discounted rate.

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May 19, 2017, 02:38:35 PM
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...I just wonder if his 20$ "Ebook" -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1843488.msg18934591#msg18934591 includes a lesson for running ponzis. maybe we can convince his vouchers to share us the method so we can "try" to recover our losses. (just an idea)
I have sent the vouch copy recipient BTCForJoe a PM explaining the situation and asking for the e-books.  If I receive them, I will share them privately with other scammed members via PM in order to help recoup losses if needed.  If not, I will PM other vouch copy recipients in an attempt to find what he was selling.

I'm not 100% sure what Method 1 is but I know Method 2, as it's what he was supposed to be doing with the funds as well:

1) Trade fiat for BTC
2) Take BTC to Purse.io
3) Set order for items you can sell locally. You get a min. discount of like 15%, so you can sell for 5% off and still get 10%+ profit per sale
4) Trade fiat for BTC
5) keep the cycle going

But he was getting BTC from you the investors in his scheme so why is that step 1 even there? I mean he would just need to deposit the coins to Purse.io and off he goes with the purchased Amazon goods for great discount to resell in his country, right?
Was he trading fiat for BTC or it was all just lies?

Sorry for your loss btw. This sucks.

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May 19, 2017, 04:42:15 PM
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I lost 0.25 BTC.
If you count with +20% per week it would have been 0.78 BTC

But i did know the risk and hoped it would last longer ... one week longer and i would have been at 0.00 loss/profit and from then only green.

I am not happy with this, but i know and act after the code: only invest what you are able to lose.
not only financially but mentally!!

Aha!
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May 19, 2017, 04:52:35 PM
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I lost 0.25 BTC.
If you count with +20% per week it would have been 0.78 BTC

But i did know the risk and hoped it would last longer ... one week longer and i would have been at 0.00 loss/profit and from then only green.

I am not happy with this, but i know and act after the code: only invest what you are able to lose.
not only financially but mentally!!
You should have waited for me.

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May 19, 2017, 05:08:38 PM
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...I just wonder if his 20$ "Ebook" -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1843488.msg18934591#msg18934591 includes a lesson for running ponzis. maybe we can convince his vouchers to share us the method so we can "try" to recover our losses. (just an idea)
I have sent the vouch copy recipient BTCForJoe a PM explaining the situation and asking for the e-books.  If I receive them, I will share them privately with other scammed members via PM in order to help recoup losses if needed.  If not, I will PM other vouch copy recipients in an attempt to find what he was selling.

I'm not 100% sure what Method 1 is but I know Method 2, as it's what he was supposed to be doing with the funds as well:

1) Trade fiat for BTC
2) Take BTC to Purse.io
3) Set order for items you can sell locally. You get a min. discount of like 15%, so you can sell for 5% off and still get 10%+ profit per sale
4) Trade fiat for BTC
5) keep the cycle going

But he was getting BTC from you the investors in his scheme so why is that step 1 even there? I mean he would just need to deposit the coins to Purse.io and off he goes with the purchased Amazon goods for great discount to resell in his country, right?
Was he trading fiat for BTC or it was all just lies?

Sorry for your loss btw. This sucks.

I was giving it as a newbie perspective. If you already have BTC, then you'd skip #1 but it changes none of the process. It's still cash->btc->purse->cash->btc->purse. Where you start in the cycle is irrelevant.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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