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Author Topic: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty  (Read 115404 times)
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November 30, 2017, 04:34:45 PM
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when are you going to pay the dividends?
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December 01, 2017, 07:57:58 AM
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Pls help me step by step, how I can send TFL token to wallet or to Ethedelta, I have many TFL on Hitbtc.
I love TFL and I will hold it because I think TrueFlip is great project.


TFL Trading on HitBTC stopped since a few days ago. Anybody knows why? The low volume?

Etherdelta is nice to use though.

It's a shame that it goes this way. Raising over 2000 BTC in the ICO, the TrueFlip team is financially very healthy. Yet the market cap of all TFL is just a few million, due to the bad management decision(s). As the Blockchain lottery is still a good idea, I hope things can be turned around

It was an unilateral decision from them, so neither we know why nor they have explained, they did not warn us to warn our users not gave the news prior for us to have a window to manage the situation.

Best regards,
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December 01, 2017, 08:51:31 AM
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It looks like fetching is not going to be good. I need to sell hundreds of thousands of tickets a month to get a satisfactory income. If you have made this account ico time, I would not invest anyway. Anyway, we will look at the upcoming games. That does not give much hope.
I did not deposit a very high amount in the place.
I do not sell it until the snow comes out, so let's see if this is harmful.
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December 01, 2017, 10:46:05 AM
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Hope you reconsider your ticket price , 5$ for each ticket is too much I guess. Powerball ticket cost only 2$ , hope you could somehow lessen the price. Good luck
the ticket price is a very important indicator than cheaper the more participants, but the fee can be small, so better middle ground, and when the entrance ticket gives good vygrali. price 3-4$ is not round, but will look good, the price should be reduced for purchases of 10 tickets.

                           
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December 01, 2017, 10:50:12 AM
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They were talk about reducing the ticket price in December and something about True Flip Coins.

The lowest price with so big Jackpot may attract more players.
Now the quantity of sold tickets is not big.
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December 01, 2017, 11:26:20 AM
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It looks like fetching is not going to be good. I need to sell hundreds of thousands of tickets a month to get a satisfactory income. If you have made this account ico time, I would not invest anyway. Anyway, we will look at the upcoming games. That does not give much hope.
I did not deposit a very high amount in the place.
I do not sell it until the snow comes out, so let's see if this is harmful.
Gambling industry is such a big industry and the popularity of blockchain is getting bigger so by holding this token you can
expect a good value in the future. It's not only this project that is down right now, there are a lot out their who are still selling below ICO price so nothing to worry.

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December 02, 2017, 07:10:27 AM
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It looks like fetching is not going to be good. I need to sell hundreds of thousands of tickets a month to get a satisfactory income. If you have made this account ico time, I would not invest anyway. Anyway, we will look at the upcoming games. That does not give much hope.
I did not deposit a very high amount in the place.
I do not sell it until the snow comes out, so let's see if this is harmful.
Gambling industry is such a big industry and the popularity of blockchain is getting bigger so by holding this token you can
expect a good value in the future. It's not only this project that is down right now, there are a lot out their who are still selling below ICO price so nothing to worry.

Well the below ICO price is mostly a result of bad TFL management, not clearly following the ICO promise of paying dividends to investors. No news yet on the games we have to play for our rewards huh?
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December 02, 2017, 07:20:53 AM
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We are proud to be presented in the shortlist for the first ever listing vote on KuCoin exchange! With your support, we have best chances to appear on KuCoin very soon. As a strong community, we should join efforts and then enjoy the results! The voting will be held on December 1-14, so please hurry up to contribute to our endeavor Smiley

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December 02, 2017, 07:25:02 AM
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I really don't understand why you keep ignoring my question regarding the massive security risk? How exactly are those funds kept that you ask users to deposit via your website?

The developers do have layers of protection, though we can not describe them for security reasons, we make sure that only you can withdraw or transfer and not even us can touch those tokens.

Best Regards,
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Hm good to know, but only to a certain degree because why would it be necessary for you to keep that to yourself if no even you can't touch those tokens? How would anyone else be able to do so if it's not possible for you?

Alright I accept that you are not willing to deal with my question. I for my part learned that people avoiding questions usually don't have proper answers Wink

Our security system is enough secured to protect your funds and tokens. We recommend everyone to protect their accounts with secure passwords and 2FA. But as for your initial question, we don't persuade people to store all their funds on our website.
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December 02, 2017, 07:28:34 AM
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Pls help me step by step, how I can send TFL token to wallet or to Ethedelta, I have many TFL on Hitbtc.
I love TFL and I will hold it because I think TrueFlip is great project.


TFL Trading on HitBTC stopped since a few days ago. Anybody knows why? The low volume?

Etherdelta is nice to use though.

It's a shame that it goes this way. Raising over 2000 BTC in the ICO, the TrueFlip team is financially very healthy. Yet the market cap of all TFL is just a few million, due to the bad management decision(s). As the Blockchain lottery is still a good idea, I hope things can be turned around

It was an unilateral decision from them, so neither we know why nor they have explained, they did not warn us to warn our users not gave the news prior for us to have a window to manage the situation.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io


You should contact HitBTC and ask them how you could withdraw your tokens. Then just provide your TrueFlip ETH refill address or any other ETH address you like.
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December 02, 2017, 03:16:17 PM
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I really don't understand why you keep ignoring my question regarding the massive security risk? How exactly are those funds kept that you ask users to deposit via your website?

The developers do have layers of protection, though we can not describe them for security reasons, we make sure that only you can withdraw or transfer and not even us can touch those tokens.

Best Regards,
TrueFlip.io


Hm good to know, but only to a certain degree because why would it be necessary for you to keep that to yourself if no even you can't touch those tokens? How would anyone else be able to do so if it's not possible for you?

Alright I accept that you are not willing to deal with my question. I for my part learned that people avoiding questions usually don't have proper answers Wink

Our security system is enough secured to protect your funds and tokens. We recommend everyone to protect their accounts with secure passwords and 2FA. But as for your initial question, we don't persuade people to store all their funds on our website.

But you incentivize them to do it. Can't you manage your lotteries (or for whatever people have to store their funds on your website) via a wonderfully secure smart contract?

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December 02, 2017, 05:19:52 PM
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I was wondering why the TFL token cannot be used to purchase lottery tickets. It would make good sense if the official token of the lottery is used to participate in said games. Currently, there is no incentive for buying TFL tokens by the general public. This obviously causes a lack of volume and an eventual delisting from exchanges.  Funding a Trueflip.io account with TFL tokens should actually be worth more than all other coins currently supported.  Please incentivize people to actually use the TFL token.
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December 02, 2017, 09:06:54 PM
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I really don't understand why you keep ignoring my question regarding the massive security risk? How exactly are those funds kept that you ask users to deposit via your website?

The developers do have layers of protection, though we can not describe them for security reasons, we make sure that only you can withdraw or transfer and not even us can touch those tokens.

Best Regards,
TrueFlip.io


Hm good to know, but only to a certain degree because why would it be necessary for you to keep that to yourself if no even you can't touch those tokens? How would anyone else be able to do so if it's not possible for you?

Alright I accept that you are not willing to deal with my question. I for my part learned that people avoiding questions usually don't have proper answers Wink

Our security system is enough secured to protect your funds and tokens. We recommend everyone to protect their accounts with secure passwords and 2FA. But as for your initial question, we don't persuade people to store all their funds on our website.

But you incentivize them to do it. Can't you manage your lotteries (or for whatever people have to store their funds on your website) via a wonderfully secure smart contract?

This is a kind of question that is more technical and developer centered.
But we do manage our balances with exchange level security. The same reason why exchanges don't manage their funds with smart contracts is the reason why we use our layers of protection just like them. Smart contracts also have points of failure and different from other software they can not be changed, check recently smart contract errors that lead to millions in losses on another company.

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December 02, 2017, 09:07:52 PM
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I was wondering why the TFL token cannot be used to purchase lottery tickets. It would make good sense if the official token of the lottery is used to participate in said games. Currently, there is no incentive for buying TFL tokens by the general public. This obviously causes a lack of volume and an eventual delisting from exchanges.  Funding a Trueflip.io account with TFL tokens should actually be worth more than all other coins currently supported.  Please incentivize people to actually use the TFL token.

Thank you for the suggestion!

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December 03, 2017, 08:10:06 AM
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They said they are thinking on implementing TFL as a payment option for tickets.
The dividends (renamed to rewards) will be paid out is gonna happen at the end of this month. So let's wait until they announce more instructions that.
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[LISTING VOTE!]

Dear friends,

We are proud to be presented in the shortlist for the first ever listing vote on KuCoin exchange! With your support, we have best chances to appear on KuCoin very soon. As a strong community, we should join efforts and then enjoy the results! The voting will be held on December 1-14, so please hurry up to contribute to our endeavor Smiley

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December 03, 2017, 01:20:47 PM
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It looks like fetching is not going to be good. I need to sell hundreds of thousands of tickets a month to get a satisfactory income. If you have made this account ico time, I would not invest anyway. Anyway, we will look at the upcoming games. That does not give much hope.
I did not deposit a very high amount in the place.
I do not sell it until the snow comes out, so let's see if this is harmful.
Gambling industry is such a big industry and the popularity of blockchain is getting bigger so by holding this token you can
expect a good value in the future. It's not only this project that is down right now, there are a lot out their who are still selling below ICO price so nothing to worry.

Well the below ICO price is mostly a result of bad TFL management, not clearly following the ICO promise of paying dividends to investors. No news yet on the games we have to play for our rewards huh?
Do you follow their media channels? The problem with paying out the promised dividends appeared after the news from SEC. So they had to spend additional time for resolving the issue. They replaced dividends with rewards and implement the new Flipcoin currency to be able to payout dividends. Thus TFL can be traded even on bittrex because their tokens be considered as securities anymore.
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December 03, 2017, 01:48:04 PM
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It looks like fetching is not going to be good. I need to sell hundreds of thousands of tickets a month to get a satisfactory income. If you have made this account ico time, I would not invest anyway. Anyway, we will look at the upcoming games. That does not give much hope.
I did not deposit a very high amount in the place.
I do not sell it until the snow comes out, so let's see if this is harmful.
Gambling industry is such a big industry and the popularity of blockchain is getting bigger so by holding this token you can
expect a good value in the future. It's not only this project that is down right now, there are a lot out their who are still selling below ICO price so nothing to worry.

Well the below ICO price is mostly a result of bad TFL management, not clearly following the ICO promise of paying dividends to investors. No news yet on the games we have to play for our rewards huh?
Do you follow their media channels? The problem with paying out the promised dividends appeared after the news from SEC. So they had to spend additional time for resolving the issue. They replaced dividends with rewards and implement the new Flipcoin currency to be able to payout dividends. Thus TFL can be traded even on bittrex because their tokens be considered as securities anymore.

Thanks for the info! I did not see this passing by and it would have been nice if the TrueFlip account on this forum explained it. Any chance when TFL go to other exchanges? Current trading on EtherDelta is very marginal..
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December 03, 2017, 02:56:03 PM
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It looks like fetching is not going to be good. I need to sell hundreds of thousands of tickets a month to get a satisfactory income. If you have made this account ico time, I would not invest anyway. Anyway, we will look at the upcoming games. That does not give much hope.
I did not deposit a very high amount in the place.
I do not sell it until the snow comes out, so let's see if this is harmful.
Gambling industry is such a big industry and the popularity of blockchain is getting bigger so by holding this token you can
expect a good value in the future. It's not only this project that is down right now, there are a lot out their who are still selling below ICO price so nothing to worry.

Well the below ICO price is mostly a result of bad TFL management, not clearly following the ICO promise of paying dividends to investors. No news yet on the games we have to play for our rewards huh?
Do you follow their media channels? The problem with paying out the promised dividends appeared after the news from SEC. So they had to spend additional time for resolving the issue. They replaced dividends with rewards and implement the new Flipcoin currency to be able to payout dividends. Thus TFL can be traded even on bittrex because their tokens be considered as securities anymore.

Thanks for the info! I did not see this passing by and it would have been nice if the TrueFlip account on this forum explained it. Any chance when TFL go to other exchanges? Current trading on EtherDelta is very marginal..

Bittrex should be the next exchange which TFL team should target.They listed EDG and funfair and so getting there shouldn't be a big problem.


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December 03, 2017, 03:07:16 PM
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It looks like fetching is not going to be good. I need to sell hundreds of thousands of tickets a month to get a satisfactory income. If you have made this account ico time, I would not invest anyway. Anyway, we will look at the upcoming games. That does not give much hope.
I did not deposit a very high amount in the place.
I do not sell it until the snow comes out, so let's see if this is harmful.
Gambling industry is such a big industry and the popularity of blockchain is getting bigger so by holding this token you can
expect a good value in the future. It's not only this project that is down right now, there are a lot out their who are still selling below ICO price so nothing to worry.

Well the below ICO price is mostly a result of bad TFL management, not clearly following the ICO promise of paying dividends to investors. No news yet on the games we have to play for our rewards huh?
Do you follow their media channels? The problem with paying out the promised dividends appeared after the news from SEC. So they had to spend additional time for resolving the issue. They replaced dividends with rewards and implement the new Flipcoin currency to be able to payout dividends. Thus TFL can be traded even on bittrex because their tokens be considered as securities anymore.

Thanks for the info! I did not see this passing by and it would have been nice if the TrueFlip account on this forum explained it. Any chance when TFL go to other exchanges? Current trading on EtherDelta is very marginal..

Bittrex should be the next exchange which TFL team should target.They listed EDG and funfair and so getting there shouldn't be a big problem.


Bittrex will never accept a token like TFL, too much issues around it, they want to be clean
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