Fast-Hash-400's 400 GH/s each

[johnyj]

(100) One Hundred Units    - 16 (16.2%)

So you might be able to sell 1600 units at least  

[Inspector 2211]

(100) One Hundred Units    - 16 (16.2%)

So you might be able to sell 1600 units at least  

17 now.

Wow - lots of millionaires reading bitcointalk.org...

[m3whiteknight]

BFL minirig was $30K for 1.5 Ths . Let say they double the price to $60K for 1.5Ths  . That will be around $40 per Ghs . Fast hand machine is 400Ghs  so 400 x $40 = $16K  .  That would be a fair deal, and a premium price around $20K will be the max that I will pay.

Just reduced it to $15,000.

cool i will buy fours

[Aseras]

I paid slightly less than 30K for my [upgrade] order of two BFL SC miniRigs, with an aggregate hash rate of 3 TH/s - so why would I want to pay 30K for a measly 400 GH/s?

An absurd proposition.

So is the minirig, at jally power draws, a minirig needs 9KW of power each. It's a portable fire starter and neighborhood light dimmer, and the power bill will each up a vast amount of profit.

the average household only can pull 3kw tops if you run everything you have all at once.

[iikun]

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again.  There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum.  just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?"  I'm going to have to punch my screen

[kslaughter]

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again.  There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum.  just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?"  I'm going to have to punch my screen

Go ahead and punch your screen: 

[Warwick]

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again.  There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum.  just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?"  I'm going to have to punch my screen

Truth here - All this semiconductor company would need to do is use google to know they would have instant buisiness - This whole thing smells of scam - Although I will say if a company could make a PCB and use Avalon chips by ordering 200,000 of them and assemble thier own units they could make a ton of money selling them. - If only I had the knowledge and resources to do that 

[iikun]

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again.  There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum.  just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?"  I'm going to have to punch my screen

Go ahead and punch your screen: 

*screen punched!*  (softly, lol)

[kslaughter]

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again.  There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum.  just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?"  I'm going to have to punch my screen

Truth here - All this semiconductor company would need to do is use google to know they would have instant buisiness - This whole thing smells of scam - Although I will say if a company could make a PCB and use Avalon chips by ordering 200,000 of them and assemble thier own units they could make a ton of money selling them. - If only I had the knowledge and resources to do that 

They could google Bitcoins if they knew about Bitcoins which they didn't.  Because you know about Bitcoin doesn't mean everyone does.  They did not know about them until I started talking to them about Bitcoins.  Management is starting to talk about them.  So this poll is trying to show them that this market is big, if you can deliver the goods fast.

[kslaughter]

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again.  There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum.  just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?"  I'm going to have to punch my screen

Yes, but they didn't even know what Bitcoin were.

[jorgebuck]

A company called virtual mining didnt know what bitcoins were...then what were you guys mining with all this high tech computer equipment?

and how does that make you the "bitcoin mining experts"

[Gomeler]

I paid slightly less than 30K for my [upgrade] order of two BFL SC miniRigs, with an aggregate hash rate of 3 TH/s - so why would I want to pay 30K for a measly 400 GH/s?

An absurd proposition.

So is the minirig, at jally power draws, a minirig needs 9KW of power each. It's a portable fire starter and neighborhood light dimmer, and the power bill will each up a vast amount of profit.

the average household only can pull 3kw tops if you run everything you have all at once.

That's cute. The average doll house with an easybake oven?

Go check the power consumption of your oven and dryer and come back with your findings. I'd have had serious issues if I was capped at 3kW at my apartment.

[PeZ]

A sucker is no longer born every minute...they are born every millisecond.

[kslaughter]

A company called virtual mining didnt know what bitcoins were...then what were you guys mining with all this high tech computer equipment?

and how does that make you the "bitcoin mining experts"

Not Virtual Mining, but the Semiconductor company.

[steamboat]

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again.  There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum.  just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?"  I'm going to have to punch my screen

Truth here - All this semiconductor company would need to do is use google to know they would have instant buisiness - This whole thing smells of scam - Although I will say if a company could make a PCB and use Avalon chips by ordering 200,000 of them and assemble thier own units they could make a ton of money selling them. - If only I had the knowledge and resources to do that 

They could google Bitcoins if they knew about Bitcoins which they didn't.  Because you know about Bitcoin doesn't mean everyone does.  They did not know about them until I started talking to them about Bitcoins.  Management is starting to talk about them.  So this poll is trying to show them that this market is big, if you can deliver the goods fast.

Didn't. They do now, and if they were serious about manufacturing chips they would do their own research.

How many units would you buy?

If we could deliver the units NOW.

Specifications:

• Fast-Hash-400's @ 400 GH/s each
• 45nm 6 GH/s chips
• 75 chips per board
• 1 board per unit
• expandable to 4 boards
• expandable to 1.6 TH/s
• Rack Mountable
• Low Power
• ~$15,000

Just trying to get an idea of how many chips we could sell, so as to convince a Major Semiconductor Company that
they need to be in the Bitcoin ASIC chip market.

How do you propose to do this as the company you are working with has just recently heard about bitcoin, and is using a forum poll for research?

Fast-Hash machines keep you up with the Joneses.

Would you be referring to These Joneses?

[firefop]

Assuming that sales was done through a pre-existing company who grows own silicon and they could ship *now*...

I'd take between 8 and 24 units @ 15k each

but the window is closing on this- because soooner or later BFL is going to re-open sales on rigs... and then that money's committed.

[kslaughter]

Assuming that sales was done through a pre-existing company who grows own silicon and they could ship *now*...

I'd take between 8 and 24 units @ 15k each

but the window is closing on this- because soooner or later BFL is going to re-open sales on rigs... and then that money's committed.

Did you put the 24 in the poll?  If not please do.

[kslaughter]

I paid slightly less than 30K for my [upgrade] order of two BFL SC miniRigs, with an aggregate hash rate of 3 TH/s - so why would I want to pay 30K for a measly 400 GH/s?

An absurd proposition.

Yes, you are right, if BFL continues to sell their now 1 TH/s rigs at $30,000, so if that is the case would you buy
at $15,000?

Just trying to see what the interest is here.

I'm not going to buy at a HIGHER price per TH/s than I already have.
I paid $10000 per TH/s.

Thus, I'd be interested in ASIC miners at or below, say, $8000 per TH/s, especially if they draw significantly less power than the BFL ones.

It is good to know that your price point is at $8,000 per TH/s

[rammy2k2]

your site looks like its made for 10$ by a indian .... it sure dosent look like a company who asks 15k for a product ...

[kslaughter]

Still working on it.