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July 27, 2018, 03:39:27 AM
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Repost, maybe someone can help me out.
Is there any possibilities somebody used my private keys after i imported to my wallet?

Hey folks!

My bitcoins disappeared after reopening Electrum. Yesterday i imported few private keys (what i deleted after i imported because always was fine), and 0.203 btc shown up in my wallet. Today i restarted my computer, and after that my issue comes: I have 3 wallet, and 2 of them working well, coins still there. The third one, shows all transaction history, but no bitcoins.
Is there anything i can do?

Kindest Regards

After my private keys was imported i clearly seen 0.203 btc  (1478 eur at the time) until the restart.

Only the "watch-only" wallet has no coin, but the other two wallet has and still have it.


We talking about the ChipMixer now, i used them many times. Highly trusted, i believe they didn't used my keys. After the private keys was imported to my wallet, i deleted the session. When i restarted the Electrum / PC the coins was gone from my wallet.

Still, my last imported keys could be compromised, that's the only thing what i can imagine.  Huh
If i seen in my available balance last night, the only way it can be gone if someone else re-used my private-keys?


Thanks in advance

Edit: in my transaction history shows no incoming nor outgoing transaction in the last 24 hours.
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July 27, 2018, 07:56:02 AM
Last edit: July 27, 2018, 08:53:49 AM by OmegaStarScream
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If your computer is infected then yes, there is a possibility for that. Assuming that Electrum is buggy, try to copy the addresses in a blockexplorer and see If there were any transactions.

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July 27, 2018, 08:22:11 AM
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Repost, maybe someone can help me out.
Is there any possibilities somebody used my private keys after i imported to my wallet?

Hey folks!

My bitcoins disappeared after reopening Electrum. Yesterday i imported few private keys (what i deleted after i imported because always was fine), and 0.203 btc shown up in my wallet. Today i restarted my computer, and after that my issue comes: I have 3 wallet, and 2 of them working well, coins still there. The third one, shows all transaction history, but no bitcoins.
Is there anything i can do?

Kindest Regards

After my private keys was imported i clearly seen 0.203 btc  (1478 eur at the time) until the restart.

Only the "watch-only" wallet has no coin, but the other two wallet has and still have it.


We talking about the ChipMixer now, i used them many times. Highly trusted, i believe they didn't used my keys. After the private keys was imported to my wallet, i deleted the session. When i restarted the Electrum / PC the coins was gone from my wallet.

Still, my last imported keys could be compromised, that's the only thing what i can imagine.  Huh
If i seen in my available balance last night, the only way it can be gone if someone else re-used my private-keys?


Thanks in advance

Edit: in my transaction history shows no incoming nor outgoing transaction in the last 24 hours.


That's quite odd. Could you check your balance on the largest chip by using btc.com/[your address] and see if it's just electrum that's the issue.

If it is just electrum, restore your wallet/make a new watch only wallet.

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July 27, 2018, 12:23:00 PM
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Edit: in my transaction history shows no incoming nor outgoing transaction in the last 24 hours.
Have you tried importing your privatekeys on another client? Must be an issue in Electrum if there is no transactions.
Or maybe your Client is out of sync? This sometimes happen to me when I load electrum for the first time.
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Hello, I did not know which post would be best to get in contact as it won?t allow me to message @chipmixer because it?s a new account and I have not heard back from your email. I just need some support with my session before it closes, thank you so much! Look forward to hearing your reply, thanks!
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July 27, 2018, 09:14:52 PM
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Does chipmixer planning to share some information publicly?
We share full information how mixer works, why it works and how it ensures fungibility.

How many coins have been mixed?
We do not disclose this information.

chips sources?
Our funds and users funds. Withdraw before deposit, chip sizes and mixer receipts ensures that any chip you withdraw from ChipMixer have no link with deposited funds.

Plan if there is a government decision against it?
Which government?

How long will keep advertising here?
We do not plan to stop.

Future plans?
Reddit / Google ads: we are looking for a person to handle this
Our wallet software: chip based wallet that handles wallet separation and fakes chip creaton
LN deposits and LN vouchers: "chips" that do not leave LN but are fungible outside of LN

Is there any plans on making a more mobile friendly version of the site?
There are no plans for that. We do not advise to use mobile devices while mixing.

Is there any possibilities somebody used my private keys after i imported to my wallet?
You could have used "sweep" option and import private keys anyway. This is the only option to have your private keys used by somebody else (our bot).

After the private keys was imported to my wallet, i deleted the session.
Edit: in my transaction history shows no incoming nor outgoing transaction in the last 24 hours.
If you have seen that chips were prefunded and now transaction is gone then it means you have imported your private keys into another wallet.

I have not heard back from your email. I just need some support with my session before it closes
Our email: chipmixer@protonmail.com
Session expires after 7 days. If we did not reply to your email after two days - send us another one.

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July 28, 2018, 07:34:02 AM
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Thanks for answering my questions, this enhances trust Smiley

chips sources?
Our funds and users funds. Withdraw before deposit, chip sizes and mixer receipts ensures that any chip you withdraw from ChipMixer have no link with deposited funds.
Some governments and corporations wants to invalidate its value by claiming they are connected to something immoral like gambling.
How to achieve this goal without detecting sources of chips?

Plan if there is a government decision against it?
Which government?
Governments above, if Bitcoin transactions regulated.

LN deposits and LN vouchers: "chips" that do not leave LN but are fungible outside of LN
Very good I was wondering about the future of mixing services if the lightning network succeeded?
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July 28, 2018, 07:55:38 AM
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Reddit / Google ads: we are looking for a person to handle this
Google ads require compromising your real life identity, right?

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Our wallet software: chip based wallet that handles wallet separation and fakes chip creaton
When I first read this, I thought it was related to the software you use on the server. On second reading (and after some sleep), I'm starting to think you're going to publish your own privacy focused wallet. As far as I know, no mixer has done that before.

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July 28, 2018, 04:27:50 PM
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Google ads require compromising your real life identity, right?
Unless you pay someone to advertise for you with his account.

When I first read this, I thought it was related to the software you use on the server. On second reading (and after some sleep), I'm starting to think you're going to publish your own privacy focused wallet. As far as I know, no mixer has done that before.
My thoughts exactly.

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July 29, 2018, 11:06:08 AM
Last edit: July 29, 2018, 12:10:46 PM by Gyrsur
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Plan if there is a government decision against it?
Which government?
Governments above, if Bitcoin transactions regulated.

so far strong evidence they are Canadians.

EDIT: source of the "Chips" may be gambling. in the past of bitcointalk.org some Canadian users operated large Bitcoin gambling sites. guess of the local gambling friendly laws.

EDIT2: at least they are gambling oriented if you look in the FAQ's "Betting". that hardens the evidence of Canadians besides the analysis which I don't want to disclose.

EDIT3: evidence of US citizens is not an option. --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_the_United_States#Legal_issues

Derivatives like Futures and Options are part of the formation of BTC prices since some time. Whether we like it or not the best way to adapt it is to learn how they are working and how we can profit from them.
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July 29, 2018, 11:15:06 AM
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Plan if there is a government decision against it?
Which government?
Governments above, if Bitcoin transactions regulated.

so far strong evidence they are Canadians.

What's the evidence?

I think the site was registered in Panama (if that's what pa stands for on whois) which means they are most likely North American (USA/Canada).

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July 29, 2018, 03:25:55 PM
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Plan if there is a government decision against it?
Which government?
Governments above, if Bitcoin transactions regulated.

so far strong evidence they are Canadians.

What's the evidence?

I think the site was registered in Panama (if that's what pa stands for on whois) which means they are most likely North American (USA/Canada).

Because I'm Canadian, ChipMixer is Canadian obviously /s

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July 29, 2018, 08:33:53 PM
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EDIT: source of the "Chips" may be gambling
Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s

Google ads require compromising your real life identity, right?
Unless you pay someone to advertise for you with his account.
Aye.

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Our wallet software: chip based wallet that handles wallet separation and fakes chip creaton
When I first read this, I thought it was related to the software you use on the server. On second reading (and after some sleep), I'm starting to think you're going to publish your own privacy focused wallet. As far as I know, no mixer has done that before.
We are experimenting with a fork of Electrum wallet, eh. They already told us they will not merge any mixer integration - even as a plugin - but this will allow keeping wallet up to date with all new features and extend them with special handling of chips.

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July 29, 2018, 08:42:25 PM
Last edit: July 29, 2018, 09:25:42 PM by Gyrsur
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Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s

Because I'm Canadian, ChipMixer is Canadian obviously /s

hm, interesting!

EDIT: not much fun in Alberta, Canada.  ;-) /s

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July 29, 2018, 09:45:18 PM
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Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s

Because I'm Canadian, ChipMixer is Canadian obviously /s

hm, interesting!

EDIT: not much fun in Alberta, Canada.  ;-) /s


Do we have another confirmed alt of DarkStar_? Grin

EDIT: source of the "Chips" may be gambling
Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s
And somehow this makes more sense than anything Gyrsur has said so far.

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Our wallet software: chip based wallet that handles wallet separation and fakes chip creaton
When I first read this, I thought it was related to the software you use on the server. On second reading (and after some sleep), I'm starting to think you're going to publish your own privacy focused wallet. As far as I know, no mixer has done that before.
We are experimenting with a fork of Electrum wallet, eh. They already told us they will not merge any mixer integration - even as a plugin - but this will allow keeping wallet up to date with all new features and extend them with special handling of chips.

Now this sounds interesting.
Have you anything functioning well so far?

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Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s

Because I'm Canadian, ChipMixer is Canadian obviously /s

hm, interesting!

EDIT: not much fun in Alberta, Canada.  ;-) /s


Do we have another confirmed alt of DarkStar_? Grin

interesting too. seems not for the first time.

EDIT: campaign manager profiles and addresses.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507936
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=862062
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DarkStrRagcDjWtsPGxkav4WG3poLXzDS
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3NSvhvYYBMVh1bPyKWjPfyiF3RHAAgsgtw

EDIT2: chipmixer.com address: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

interesting, the campaign payouts goes directly from chipmixer.com address to members and not via the campaign managers address. this could mean the campaign manager holds the priv key to this address. both prefer vanity addresses.

Derivatives like Futures and Options are part of the formation of BTC prices since some time. Whether we like it or not the best way to adapt it is to learn how they are working and how we can profit from them.
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interesting too. seems not for the first time.

EDIT: campaign manager profiles and addresses.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507936
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=862062
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DarkStrRagcDjWtsPGxkav4WG3poLXzDS
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3NSvhvYYBMVh1bPyKWjPfyiF3RHAAgsgtw

EDIT2: chipmixer.com address: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

interesting, the campaign payouts goes directly from chipmixer.com address to members and not via the campaign managers address. this could mean the campaign manager holds the priv key to this address. both prefer vanity addresses.
I'm pretty sure this is just you trolling us again (is this your new hobby?). But this address doesn't belong to ChipMixer (obviously). It's an address created by DarkStar to escrow the funds and pay the campaign users.

~snip~

I will be holding the funds for this campaign, and paying participants. The escrow address will be topped up as the campaign progresses.

Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

I, DarkStar_ (u=507936) am escrowing funds for the ChipMixer campaign that I am managing in the address 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.70
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

wsBcBAABCgAGBQJZJ6MjAAoJEIZVviH1IAyt6z4H/ii3xV9/IOQyVOXTdPZzd/al
chpHY7gblLQ/C3BNR9Tx+v5mDvgDFFEJW7AH5AVDfqvz8w5NSFPSRn2Au22u5HyU
Ab30xludXpSx8ADEm7m8/T6GNppGRVL2KKlxQSRZMcE9RwTRKOKLu5lUD6U45XUU
hlO1XgvBv6XHUA6sm56R2Nwnwy0cZnvStH2fgGkadwsyzCmFpqSTCoXQDZJnwgzL
30RxBt8GrKtIEIoLWpi+0EULf2bP/Q4+rklJBoeUARiw0t1xs2dsBJkPNEDGOlEQ
+4uc/jirIAeBGRMfYLOrv/QO1CmLwJ7s/j9BI76/IPIMU2oI6rERhykFmU8Cyu4=
=Z/gC
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


ChipMixer's address is: 1ChipMwvHe5tewb1Uqa9bbZZJDmgPV1TC7 as stated in their website (https://chipmixer.com/about);
While the escrow address is: 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty (notice the blatantly difference).

Good detective work btw.



P.S: Got you out of my ignore list after DarkStar's post. But I'm willing to put you back soon.

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Last edit: July 30, 2018, 11:06:50 AM by Gyrsur
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interesting too. seems not for the first time.

EDIT: campaign manager profiles and addresses.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507936
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=862062
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DarkStrRagcDjWtsPGxkav4WG3poLXzDS
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3NSvhvYYBMVh1bPyKWjPfyiF3RHAAgsgtw

EDIT2: chipmixer.com address: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

interesting, the campaign payouts goes directly from chipmixer.com address to members and not via the campaign managers address. this could mean the campaign manager holds the priv key to this address. both prefer vanity addresses.
I'm pretty sure this is just you trolling us again (is this your new hobby?). But this address doesn't belong to ChipMixer (obviously). It's an address created by DarkStar to escrow the funds and pay the campaign users.

~snip~

I will be holding the funds for this campaign, and paying participants. The escrow address will be topped up as the campaign progresses.

Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

I, DarkStar_ (u=507936) am escrowing funds for the ChipMixer campaign that I am managing in the address 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.70
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

wsBcBAABCgAGBQJZJ6MjAAoJEIZVviH1IAyt6z4H/ii3xV9/IOQyVOXTdPZzd/al
chpHY7gblLQ/C3BNR9Tx+v5mDvgDFFEJW7AH5AVDfqvz8w5NSFPSRn2Au22u5HyU
Ab30xludXpSx8ADEm7m8/T6GNppGRVL2KKlxQSRZMcE9RwTRKOKLu5lUD6U45XUU
hlO1XgvBv6XHUA6sm56R2Nwnwy0cZnvStH2fgGkadwsyzCmFpqSTCoXQDZJnwgzL
30RxBt8GrKtIEIoLWpi+0EULf2bP/Q4+rklJBoeUARiw0t1xs2dsBJkPNEDGOlEQ
+4uc/jirIAeBGRMfYLOrv/QO1CmLwJ7s/j9BI76/IPIMU2oI6rERhykFmU8Cyu4=
=Z/gC
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


ChipMixer's address is: 1ChipMwvHe5tewb1Uqa9bbZZJDmgPV1TC7 as stated in their website (https://chipmixer.com/about);
While the escrow address is: 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty (notice the blatantly difference).

Good detective work btw.



P.S: Got you out of my ignore list after DarkStar's post. But I'm willing to put you back soon.

escrow address was funded (2017-05-26) before the chipmixer address (2017-08-16). makes no sense to me in this order.

EDIT: it's more an indicator that cipmixer created this escrow address and not the campiagn manager. or they are both the same.

EDIT2: if this chipmixer address has an operational need (which it has) then you will create and fund it with the start of the operation or before. after your business is working and you have too less customers your are thinking about to improve it. then comes the escrow address into the game. in this order.

We sign receipts with 1ChipMwvHe5tewb1Uqa9bbZZJDmgPV1TC7 address.
Our BitcoinTalk account is ChipMixer.

What is a signed receipt?

Our goal is to make Bitcoin value independent of its blockchain history. Some governments and corporations wants to invalidate its value by claiming they are connected to something immoral like gambling. Every time you withdraw from ChipMixer, we give you cryptographically signed receipt that proves you have received those funds from us. Since the disconnection of history is proven, there can be no loss of value.

EDIT3: Alpha test thread --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1923170.0

it was a single man show from the begining. even the reaction time if issues occure proves this.

IMO, chipmixer and campaign manager does not involves more then 2 people. maybe even just one. and if not just one both are strong connected in the same local community.

Derivatives like Futures and Options are part of the formation of BTC prices since some time. Whether we like it or not the best way to adapt it is to learn how they are working and how we can profit from them.
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July 30, 2018, 02:10:32 AM
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escrow address was funded (2017-05-26) before the chipmixer address (2017-08-16). makes no sense to me in this order.
Why exactly does this matter?

Looks like you are just creating problems out of your mind for the sake of increasing your post count and getting paid on your signature campaign Roll Eyes

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July 30, 2018, 02:55:08 PM
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My 1ChipW address was generated using vanitygen when I searched for 1Chip... as I did not have a good GPU at the time. It was the second result that came, and looked decent, so I went with it. The first was something like 1Chipb or something on those lines and the 1Chipb part didn't stand out. Seriously, how is this supposed to indicate alts? Also, you don't need a funded address to sign messages.

You have 1Gyrsur3XcEoGjCarnXvGTVAS3rvjsdVm3, which is also a vanity. Thus, DarkStar_ = ChipMixer = Gyrsur confirmed!111!111one!1111

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