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May 18, 2020, 05:31:26 AM
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I used chipmixer to successfully mix my coins. However, I used the same session to mix my coin in another transaction which is not showing in my chipmixer session page. I tried with a lower amount and sent 2 deposits during same session. My first deposit was recognized but the second one is disappeared not shown anywhere in the chipmixer session.


Hoping to see my disappeared coins once again. Sent email and PM. Waiting for a meaningful resolution.

Can you please write what response you got from chipmixer for our further reference. It's a reputable site and I m sure there support will help you in finding your coins. Just let us know there response. Thanks.
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May 18, 2020, 06:01:41 AM
Last edit: May 18, 2020, 08:56:27 AM by TryNinja
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Can you please write what response you got from chipmixer for our further reference. It's a reputable site and I m sure there support will help you in finding your coins. Just let us know there response. Thanks.
The transactions probably already got confirmed since the mempool cleaned out a bit to the 3 sat/byte range. Edit: Or that would have been the case if it wasn't for CM's fast support (OP's post bellow). Great to see that. Smiley

Last time something like this happened, ChipMixer bumped the fees of their unconfirmed transactions:

Today upon creation of chips, one transaction got delayed because mempool grew up quickly. It left our transaction with much lower fees than others and all new transactions had higher and higher fees.

We have bumped the fee for it and it is confirmed now. Please check your wallet. Private keys are already imported so Electrum should notice confirmation. If that's not a case, try to recover session using session token and reimport keys.

If you still have a problem, please contact us by email and provide deposit address and/or session token, we will help.

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I used chipmixer to successfully mix my coins. However, I used the same session to mix my coin in another transaction which is not showing in my chipmixer session page. I tried with a lower amount and sent 2 deposits during same session. My first deposit was recognized but the second one is disappeared not shown anywhere in the chipmixer session.


Hoping to see my disappeared coins once again. Sent email and PM. Waiting for a meaningful resolution.

Can you please write what response you got from chipmixer for our further reference. It's a reputable site and I m sure there support will help you in finding your coins. Just let us know there response. Thanks.

I am writing this to share an update of my conversation with chipmixer. They sent me a voucher code to redeem my missing coins 7 hours ago which I successfully used to retrieve my chips on their website.

Support was very helpful to resolve my query in their first email response. Indeed, a great service in to add some more anonymity to my coins. 
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June 18, 2020, 02:13:12 PM
Last edit: June 18, 2020, 02:28:52 PM by BitcoinFX
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@ChipMixer

"Re: Anonymous Bitcoins"
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5255631.msg54641364#msg54641364

Notification - Kindly fix up your Lets Encrypt SSL Certificate ... it is currently capped to a grade B ...

- https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=chipmixer.com&hideResults=on

SSL Labs Grade Change for TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 Protocols ...
- https://blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2018/11/19/grade-change-for-tls-1-0-and-tls-1-1-protocols

Has insecure cypher suites ...
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cipher_suite

Is therefore vulnerable to the BEAST attack ...
- https://blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2013/09/10/is-beast-still-a-threat

Your also using an RSA 2048 bits publickey certificate despite Lets Encrypt supporting RSA 4096 bits publickey certificates, out-of-the box ...

...

How to Guide ...

See: https://ssl-config.mozilla.org/#server=nginx&version=1.14.0&config=intermediate&openssl=1.1.1d&hsts=false&ocsp=false&guideline=5.4

Example;

Code:
# generated 2020-06-18, Mozilla Guideline v5.4, nginx 1.14.0, OpenSSL 1.1.1d, intermediate configuration, no HSTS, no OCSP
# https://ssl-config.mozilla.org/#server=nginx&version=1.14.0&config=intermediate&openssl=1.1.1d&hsts=false&ocsp=false&guideline=5.4
server {
    listen 443 ssl http2;
    listen [::]:443 ssl http2;

    ssl_certificate /path/to/signed_cert_plus_intermediates;
    ssl_certificate_key /path/to/private_key;
    ssl_session_timeout 1d;
    ssl_session_cache shared:MozSSL:10m;  # about 40000 sessions
    ssl_session_tickets off;

    # curl https://ssl-config.mozilla.org/ffdhe2048.txt > /path/to/dhparam
    ssl_dhparam /path/to/dhparam;

    # intermediate configuration
    ssl_protocols TLSv1.2 TLSv1.3;
    ssl_ciphers ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384;
    ssl_prefer_server_ciphers off;
}

You need to update the # intermediate configuration ssl_protocols and ssl_ciphers .

Then use certbot to upgrade your certificate publickey to RSA 4096 bit

Code:
sudo certbot --nginx -d chipmixer.com --rsa-key-size 4096

Cheers!

Also review your torrc for 'compliance' here (donations welcome!) ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177001.msg52455267#msg52455267

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June 18, 2020, 03:34:25 PM
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I tried to inform chip mixer about this stuff around a year ago or so ...


Notification - Kindly fix up your Lets Encrypt SSL Certificate ... it is currently capped to a grade B ...

- https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=chipmixer.com&hideResults=on


Sorry if I didn't get correctly but the change from SSL Lab was 6 months ago about. And you say to have informed a year ago.
Do you live in the future like Marty McFly? Cheesy

The grade change was only done to motivate people to migrate to protocol TLS 1.2+. My question is how is that important if you still support TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 protocols? While the server supports TLS 1.2 as well

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June 18, 2020, 03:47:07 PM
Last edit: June 18, 2020, 04:12:45 PM by BitcoinFX
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...snip...

Sorry if I didn't get correctly but the change from SSL Lab was 6 months ago about. And you say to have informed a year ago.
Do you live in the future like Marty McFly? Cheesy

The grade change was only done to motivate people to migrate to protocol TLS 1.2+. My question is how is that important if you still support TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 protocols? While the server supports TLS 1.2 as well

Well it was approximately a year or so ago, perhaps it was less.  Smiley

EDIT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186601.msg52764188#msg52764188
So, around October 15, 2019 ...

I think the documentation is extensive enough to answer your questions, instead of myself writing a lengthy response here.

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Notification - Kindly fix up your Lets Encrypt SSL Certificate ... it is currently capped to a grade B ...

- https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=chipmixer.com&hideResults=on

SSL Labs Grade Change for TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 Protocols ...
- https://blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2018/11/19/grade-change-for-tls-1-0-and-tls-1-1-protocols

Has insecure cypher suites ...
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cipher_suite

Is therefore vulnerable to the BEAST attack ...
- https://blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2013/09/10/is-beast-still-a-threat

Please don't jump into conclusions too quickly. We were never vulnerable to BEAST attack. We always had implemented server-side mitigations. Otherwise our rating on SSL Labs would be at least "F". It's really old attack and it's hard to find website that doesn't mitigate it.

SSL Labs graded our SSL as "B" because we supported TLS 1.1 version, not insecure cypher suites. Various browsers have provided approximate deadlines for disabling TLS 1.0/1.1 protocols to first half of 2020. It was better to wait until then. Currently TLS 1.1 have been disabled and SSL Labs grade is "A". Thank you for reminder.

Your also using an RSA 2048 bits publickey certificate despite Lets Encrypt supporting RSA 4096 bits publickey certificates, out-of-the box ...

You should be aware that RSA-4096 looks cool but it's not really much better than RSA-2048. It gives almost nothing while costing us a lot. RSA being asymettric don't double in strength when you add a single bit. RSA-4096 improvement over 2048 is around 28 bits which is marginal. Using 4096 bit certificate would make our site slower (around 3 times slower SSL handshake) and more CPU intensive (we mitigate a lot of attacks) with no benefit for our users.

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Got "502 Bad Gateway" error. Is it an error on my side or yours?
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July 04, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
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Got "502 Bad Gateway" error. Is it an error on my side or yours?
https://i.imgur.com/pneMggN.png
It's working fine for me.

I went through Step 1 without any issues. Try again?

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July 04, 2020, 04:11:20 PM
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Notification - Kindly fix up your Lets Encrypt SSL Certificate ... it is currently capped to a grade B ...

- https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=chipmixer.com&hideResults=on

SSL Labs Grade Change for TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 Protocols ...
- https://blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2018/11/19/grade-change-for-tls-1-0-and-tls-1-1-protocols

Has insecure cypher suites ...
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cipher_suite

Is therefore vulnerable to the BEAST attack ...
- https://blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2013/09/10/is-beast-still-a-threat

Please don't jump into conclusions too quickly. We were never vulnerable to BEAST attack. We always had implemented server-side mitigations. Otherwise our rating on SSL Labs would be at least "F". It's really old attack and it's hard to find website that doesn't mitigate it.

SSL Labs graded our SSL as "B" because we supported TLS 1.1 version, not insecure cypher suites. Various browsers have provided approximate deadlines for disabling TLS 1.0/1.1 protocols to first half of 2020. It was better to wait until then. Currently TLS 1.1 have been disabled and SSL Labs grade is "A". Thank you for reminder.

Your also using an RSA 2048 bits publickey certificate despite Lets Encrypt supporting RSA 4096 bits publickey certificates, out-of-the box ...

You should be aware that RSA-4096 looks cool but it's not really much better than RSA-2048. It gives almost nothing while costing us a lot. RSA being asymettric don't double in strength when you add a single bit. RSA-4096 improvement over 2048 is around 28 bits which is marginal. Using 4096 bit certificate would make our site slower (around 3 times slower SSL handshake) and more CPU intensive (we mitigate a lot of attacks) with no benefit for our users.

Props for fixing this up.

However, the BEAST attack was a vulnerability 'server-side' as TLS 1.0 presented ... i.e. "Not mitigated server-side (more info)   TLS 1.0: 0xc013"

...

RSA-3072 then ?  Cheesy

...

Interesting to note that forum MERITS are given to the service operator, not to the messenger ...

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July 04, 2020, 04:36:26 PM
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Got "502 Bad Gateway" error. Is it an error on my side or yours?


I've got through to step 0 too, did the main site and captchha load fine and did you fill in the captchha first time? I think I've had a 502 before.

(as a tip for the Internet, my general rule is less than 400 is a you error, 400+ is a server error (around the 500 mark is a script error or access error due to some sort of "dos"/service error ).

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Here is the list of fake sites that imitate chipmixer

Phishing scam!

https://chipmixxer.com
https://chipmixer.biz
https://chipmixer.co.uk
https://www.chipmixer.is
https://chipmixer.best
https://chippmixer.com
https://chipmixerwzxtzbw.com
https://chipmixerr.com
This uses a point between the E https://chipmixẹr.com
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July 14, 2020, 09:57:32 PM
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You might want to put a space between the dot and the extension to break the autolinking smf does, a search engine might crawl them and assume they're more notable than they are (thus ranking them higher).

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Chipmixer ranks first in Chinese list of 2020 currency mixers
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247254.0
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Did anyone had any issues with Bitcoins that you sent to exchanges after mixing coins with ChipMixer,
and do you have any suggestions about this and advice for reducing this (excluding not using centralized exchanges Wink)?



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Did anyone had any issues with Bitcoins that you sent to exchanges after mixing coins with ChipMixer,
and do you have any suggestions about this and advice for reducing this (excluding not using centralized exchanges Wink)?




From my experience, never I got trouble and did it more than 1 time.
As for the suggestion: making fake transactions. I mean to send bitcoins to yourself to create transaction history (since they scan the lastest transactions). If you add a dozen of "hops" you can be pretty sure to be fine (from centralized exchanges at least)

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Did anyone had any issues with Bitcoins that you sent to exchanges after mixing coins with ChipMixer,
and do you have any suggestions about this and advice for reducing this (excluding not using centralized exchanges Wink)?

I occasionally send my earnings from the Chipmixer campaign direct to Kraken and that has an address with Chip in the name. They've never said a word to me about it yet. I'm not sure others will be as relaxed.

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Did anyone had any issues with Bitcoins that you sent to exchanges after mixing coins with ChipMixer,
and do you have any suggestions about this and advice for reducing this (excluding not using centralized exchanges Wink)?

I occasionally send my earnings from the Chipmixer campaign direct to Kraken and that has an address with Chip in the name. They've never said a word to me about it yet. I'm not sure others will be as relaxed.

I've probably gone straight to an exchanfe in the past. I normally use other places though - like adding a few extra hops or use gambling sites/offshore exchanges that hide the trace a bit. 777coin and yolodice could work for making an anonymous account to break the chain (if you try to withdraw a different amount too from them then it might make you even less noticeable).

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Will ChipMixer.com ban or help in tracking bitcoin obtained due to #twitter_hack?
Will they help them if know they are the hackers and what will happen if a judicial or political ruling is issued in that regard?
All analysis firms will track that address and may end up sending coins to ChipMixer
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Will ChipMixer.com ban or help in tracking bitcoin obtained due to #twitter_hack?
You should read https://chipmixer.com/faq, under Fungibility? Why would I care? :
Quote
Let's hear the expert:

First of all I was going to explain what we mean by fungibility before bitcoin and ecash. It's an old legal concept in fact, about paper currency. It's the idea that a one ten dollar note is the same as any other ten dollar note. If you receive a note that was involved in a theft, 10 transactions ago, and the police investigate the theft, they have no right to remove the ten dollar note from your pocket. It's not your fault that it was involved in a previous crime. And so bank notes actually have serial numbers, so it would be possible for a stolen note to be traced back to you.

This first arose, there was a 17th century court case where a wealthy merchant sent a couple of high-value bank notes to a colleague in the post and they never arrived. Before he sent them, he was quite paranoid that they would get stolen. He wrote down the serial numbers and made a mark on them. Sure enough they didn't arrive, so he put in a complaint with the bank, and evenutally the notes turned up at the bank. He tried to get the bank to return the notes to his ownership. The courts sided with the bank. Their reason was that if notes could be returned to their original owner after a theft, it would damage confidence in currency and it would be bad for business, the currency would become unusable because every time you received the paper note you would have to look in the newspaper whether it was reported stolen, or you would have the risk of it being taken, or you would have to rush to the bank to deposit it so that it was the bank's problem.(...)

Then we arrive at this problem of taint tracing. Because it's not very private, some people took an interest in tracing coins and I think the motivation was that there's a number of high-profile thefts of coins from exchanges and other businesses, and that's a problem for those businesses and they went out of businss because of it. Some people would like to put distance between themselves and coins that were used in illicit use. There is a law that says that currency is fungible, but because you can somewhat tell where a coin was used before, people started to care. Coin validation proposed to offer as a service to trace coins and try to give you a rating about how the history of the coin from your point of view and to offer that as a service to businesses. I think this could be quite dangerous because it goes back to that 17th century court case where now you could receive a coin that is perfectly valid at the time that you receive it, but a few weeks later a crime is uncovered and now your coin is tainted. So if this coin validation service is advicing many of the merchants where you would want to spend your coin at, it's tainted and now the merchant would refuse to accept your coin. That's a strange experience for you; you're holding a coin that you might have to sell at a discount to get rid of it. The aggregate effect of this might create a run on the bitcoin price. So it reopens this long-set legal principle that currency or currency units are all equal.


http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-adam3us-fungibility-privacy/

Will they help them if know they are the hackers and what will happen if a judicial or political ruling is issued in that regard?
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