[ENDED] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+

[TheBeardedBaby]

Is there a waiting list for the campaign? I see many people applying even there are no free slots for now.

Edited:

There's no waiting list. If people are applying it is usually because they didn't read the title that says [FULL] or occasionally because they are applying under the 'very trusted person' exception stated in the OP.

Thanks man, you are always helpful. I'm far from being a 'very trusted person' so I guess I have to wait for a free slot. I'm not in hurry anyway

[TheQuin]

Is there a waiting list for the campaign? I see many people applying even there are no free slots for now.

There's no waiting list. If people are applying it is usually because they didn't read the title that says [FULL] or occasionally because they are applying under the 'very trusted person' exception stated in the OP.

[Gyrsur]

Is there a waiting list for the campaign? I see many people applying even there are no free slots for now.

Nope, the campaign manager is in GOD mode and his decisions to elect someone to his disciple are not transparent for anyone.

[BTCforJoe]

Is there a waiting list for the campaign? I see many people applying even there are no free slots for now.

Nope, the campaign manager is in GOD mode and his decisions to elect someone to his disciple are not transparent for anyone.

Much like your post. Transparent it is not. Why don't you just come out and say what you want to say instead of beating around the bush? Your lack of candor makes you appear salty about something.

[Gyrsur]

Is there a waiting list for the campaign? I see many people applying even there are no free slots for now.

Nope, the campaign manager is in GOD mode and his decisions to elect someone to his disciple are not transparent for anyone.

Much like your post. Transparent it is not. Why don't you just come out and say what you want to say instead of beating around the bush? Your lack of candor makes you appear salty about something.

campaign manager has the wrong strategie to manage this campaign.

first thing is reduce the amount to pay per post because the high amount let the participates act like slaves of the campaign manager.

second allow more people to participate in this campaign. to get a larger awareness across the forum also in non English sections.

third thing ask yourselve if this forum is still the right place to waste such a high amount every week because this forum is mostly a place for trolls now and not for Bitcoin believers anymore.

if I want to get serious information about Bitcoin development in general I visit reddit. if I want some entertainment and learn to know about the newest scams this forum is the right place.

[DooMAD]

campaign manager has the wrong strategie to manage this campaign.

first thing is reduce the amount to pay per post because the high amount let the participates act like slaves of the campaign manager.

second allow more people to participate in this campaign. to get a larger awareness across the forum also in non English sections.

If all of your comments didn't appear to stem from the possibility that you're bitter about not being accepted, perhaps we might give your criticisms greater consideration.  Also, based on your posts in this thread, I don't think I'd consider joining a campaign where you were the manager.  The attitude you've displayed here is just generally unpleasant and unprofessional.  Consider that perhaps you aren't in a position to insinuate you could do a better job.

And it should be obvious that the issue with adding participants from non-English sections is that it's more difficult to check for quality if you aren't fluent in the language.  It sounds like what you actually want is another campaign, where the quality is just as high as this one, but run by someone in the local sections.  It's not DarkStar_'s fault that you aren't able to find such a campaign.  Direct your frustrations elsewhere.

if I want to get serious information about Bitcoin development in general I visit reddit.

Personally, I've always found reddit to be the far murkier cesspool.  StackExchange for the win.  That's where you get the technical talk without the BS.

[bitmover]

campaign manager has the wrong strategie to manage this campaign.

first thing is reduce the amount to pay per post because the high amount let the participates act like slaves of the campaign manager.

second allow more people to participate in this campaign. to get a larger awareness across the forum also in non English sections.

third thing ask yourselve if this forum is still the right place to waste such a high amount every week because this forum is mostly a place for trolls now and not for Bitcoin believers anymore.

if I want to get serious information about Bitcoin development in general I visit reddit. if I want some entertainment and learn to know about the newest scams this forum is the right place.

TLDR (Too lazy didn't read): if you can't join, it's better just to make this campaign like any other in the forum, pay 0.000001 per post and let spammers join.

And hire you as a campaign manager, so you can get some money and help spammers.

[Gyrsur]

campaign manager has the wrong strategie to manage this campaign.

first thing is reduce the amount to pay per post because the high amount let the participates act like slaves of the campaign manager.

second allow more people to participate in this campaign. to get a larger awareness across the forum also in non English sections.

If all of your comments didn't appear to stem from the possibility that you're bitter about not being accepted, perhaps we might give your criticisms greater consideration.  Also, based on your posts in this thread, I don't think I'd consider joining a campaign where you were the manager.  The attitude you've displayed here is just generally unpleasant and unprofessional.  Consider that perhaps you aren't in a position to insinuate you could do a better job.

And it should be obvious that the issue with adding participants from non-English sections is that it's more difficult to check for quality if you aren't fluent in the language.  It sounds like what you actually want is another campaign, where the quality is just as high as this one, but run by someone in the local sections.  It's not DarkStar_'s fault that you aren't able to find such a campaign.  Direct your frustrations elsewhere.

i cannot agree with you. for example the former bitmixer.io campaign was really the best campaign so far. it was automated with less effort than this campaign. (don't want to know the margin of the campaign manager here.)

this campaign here feels fishy from the very beginning with a large lack of transparency because no one is able to determine why someone was choosen or not. there is no transparent waiting list and much more.

no I don't want to participate in this campiagn anymore because I cannot support the concept of already used private keys. It needs trust.

Do you know withdrawn private key?

Sadly, yes, we have created them and as long as two people knows private key, either of them can move funds. When you withdraw a chip, you receive a copy of private key encrypted on the mixer's server. You are free to sweep it yourself, ask us to send it to your address or keep it on chip for a while. Only the last option keeps your funds vunerable to our dishonesty, but it also extends your privacy. If you sweep funds from chip in first 12h after your input, you receive same privacy as you would get from standard mixer. If you trust us (as you already did when you sent coins into mixer) and spend chip when you need it, then you achive maximum privacy you can get.

[Gyrsur]

campaign manager has the wrong strategie to manage this campaign.

first thing is reduce the amount to pay per post because the high amount let the participates act like slaves of the campaign manager.

second allow more people to participate in this campaign. to get a larger awareness across the forum also in non English sections.

third thing ask yourselve if this forum is still the right place to waste such a high amount every week because this forum is mostly a place for trolls now and not for Bitcoin believers anymore.

if I want to get serious information about Bitcoin development in general I visit reddit. if I want some entertainment and learn to know about the newest scams this forum is the right place.

And hire you as a campaign manager, so you can get some money and help spammers.

my evaluation of this campaign does not mean that I'm available as a campaign manager.

[European Central Bank]

i cannot agree with you. for example the former bitmixer.io campaign was really the best campaign so far. it was automated with less effort than this campaign. (don't want to know the margin of the campaign manager here.)

this campaign here feels fishy from the very beginning with a large lack of transparency because no one is able to determine why someone was choosen or not. there is no transparent waiting list and much more.

uh, bitmixer and its automation is probably one of the prime causes of merit being invented. no one checked any posts and anyone could join. it was a shitshow.

i don't think an automated campaign would be permitted to survive here any more.

why should anyone care what the campaign manager's decisions are? he's in control of the funds. he decides. it ain't no one else's business.

[1Referee]

no I don't want to participate in this campiagn anymore because I cannot support the concept of already used private keys. It needs trust.

Weak argument. All mixers require you to trust them, regardless of their core business model.

What's the difference between you sending your coins to X mixer and it scams you directly, or you send coins to Y mixer and it scams you later on? The outcome remains the same; you are scammed off your coins.

[Gyrsur]

no I don't want to participate in this campiagn anymore because I cannot support the concept of already used private keys. It needs trust.

Weak argument. All mixers require you to trust them, regardless of their core business model.

What's the difference between you sending your coins to X mixer and it scams you directly, or you send coins to Y mixer and it scams you later on? The outcome remains the same; you are scammed off your coins.

the whole business model of chipmixer makes really no sense to me.

they have created chips before. from where? freshly minted chips? guess not.

more likely from inputs before your input which also can be from a dirty source.

then you import this private key in your wallet and the whole time until you have spend the chip amount completely it is on risk.

sounds less safer to me than mixing small amounts to different addresses directly and after this your risk is zero.

[actmyname]

first thing is reduce the amount to pay per post because the high amount let the participates act like slaves of the campaign manager.

What?

third thing ask yourselve if this forum is still the right place to waste such a high amount every week because this forum is mostly a place for trolls now and not for Bitcoin believers anymore.

Considering the fact that it's still active and that ChipMixer buys ad slots on the forum, it must be working.

[1Referee]

they have created chips before. from where? freshly minted chips? guess not.

more likely from inputs before your input which also can be from a dirty source.

Of course these aren't freshly minted coins, just like every mixer they have an algorithm taking care of getting rid of as much initial taint as possible. It's not bullet-proof.

Miners can demand a high premium for their mint; if mixers were to use it, they would need to charge users extremely high fees and barely anyone would use a mixer then.

then you import this private key in your wallet and the whole time until you have spend the chip amount completely it is on risk.

sounds less safer to me than mixing small amounts to different addresses directly and after this your risk is zero.

You can just as easily request ChipMixer to sweep the private keys for you, then you don't have to bother worrying about risks.

Why don't you just give it a try and explore ChipMixer for yourself.

[actmyname]

i cannot agree with you. for example the former bitmixer.io campaign was really the best campaign so far. it was automated with less effort than this campaign. (don't want to know the margin of the campaign manager here.)

Automation leads to spam and if you're going to get someone to check for post quality, why not also have someone go 100% and manage posts as well?

[shaw1]

C'mon, @Gyrsur. You're just looking for any reason at all to complain.

Just look at the progression, here:

Nope, the campaign manager is in GOD mode and his decisions to elect someone to his disciple are not transparent for anyone.

Pretty simple, right? You're complaining that the manager is acting like God.
But once that gets answered, you change directions on a dime:

campaign manager has the wrong strategie to manage this campaign.

first thing is reduce the amount to pay per post because the high amount let the participates act like slaves of the campaign manager.

second allow more people to participate in this campaign. to get a larger awareness across the forum also in non English sections.

third thing ask yourselve if this forum is still the right place to waste such a high amount every week because this forum is mostly a place for trolls now and not for Bitcoin believers anymore.

if I want to get serious information about Bitcoin development in general I visit reddit. if I want some entertainment and learn to know about the newest scams this forum is the right place.

How sweet of you. You are trying to help DarkStar_ learn how to run a better signature campaign. That one gets answered too.
(Seriously, Reddit has fewer trolls than here??? Reddit has fewer trolls than anywhere???)
This is a social forum, and deals less with the mathematics of cryptography than it used to. That's natural. What used to be an amazing nerdy invention is transitioning into a globally known phenomenon. There's still definitely a need for the technical stuff. But this place still has a very important purpose for bitcoin.

Finally, you get flustered, and go for your third tangent:

the whole business model of chipmixer makes really no sense to me.

Seriously?
Do I even need to talk about this one?

If you don't think the business is a good one, the answer is pretty simple. Don't go there.
Problem solved. Everyone is happy. And if chipmixer gets run into the ground by their business model, that is their lookout.

But I think honestly that this isn't much about the three tangents you brought up. I'm thinking this is more just sour grapes.
With all the time you spent here, you could've probably joined a lower paying campaign, and actually made some money.
I would suggest to you that that is a more profitable pastime than spamming this guy in hopes he gives you a slot.

[LoyceV]

more likely from inputs before your input which also can be from a dirty source.

Correct, just like any other mixer. Or just like the banknotes in your wallet have most likely been used in criminal transactions somewhere in the past.

I wouldn't mind discussing this further, but it's completely off-topic here. If you create a thread about it, please post the link here.

first thing is reduce the amount to pay per post because the high amount let the participates act like slaves of the campaign manager.

What?

Slave reporting for duty

this campaign here feels fishy from the very beginning with a large lack of transparency because no one is able to determine why someone was choosen or not. there is no transparent waiting list and much more.

It's entirely up to ChipMixer how to run the campaign. ChipMixer chose and trusts DarkStar_. The end.

[athanz88]

Come on guys, you dont need to answer that man. Obviously he is envious of this campaign and trying to get attention from the members of the campaign. Just ignore him and he will not reply on this thread anymore.

[Gyrsur]

Why don't you just give it a try and explore ChipMixer for yourself.

so I did and I'm still waiting how to proceed with chipmixer.com after 14 confirmations

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holy grap! they owe me 0.001 BTC.  

[TheQuin]

so I did and I'm still waiting how to proceed with chipmixer.com after 14 confirmations

You're in the wrong thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935098.msg41811603#msg41811603