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November 10, 2019, 06:24:06 PM
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I apply because Kakmakr has left the campaign.  I wanted to take a chance Smiley


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November 10, 2019, 06:30:50 PM
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I apply because Kakmakr has left the campaign.  I wanted to take a chance Smiley
The spreadsheets shows there is no open slot.

"Slots: 57/57 Filled"

Also... "Trust: +1 / =0 / -1"

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November 10, 2019, 06:38:30 PM
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I apply because Kakmakr has left the campaign.  I wanted to take a chance Smiley


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It doesn't work that way. Even if someone leaves the campaign or is disqualified, you still have to wait for the opening of free positions to be announced.
Making an application while the title says it's full is an absolutely stupid idea.


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November 11, 2019, 02:52:59 AM
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There is one exception for extremely high trusted users but in such cases applicants suggested by manager to apply through PMs, not in the topic.
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Note: If the campaign is full, but you are a very trusted member of the community, feel free to apply. I recommend PMing me to get a faster response. Please explicitly state that you are applying for an exception. Simply being DT1 is not enough.

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November 11, 2019, 06:23:02 AM
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Also... "Trust: +1 / =0 / -1"

Speaking of that, I've finally updated the campaign rules to utilize the new trust system. It now reads this:
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8. Receiving a valid contract violation flag, a valid "high risk" flag or having more negative trust feedback from DT1 and DT2 than positive trust feedback may cause you to be removed, with or without payment.

This rule goes into effect next payment round. If you disagree with these changes and wish to leave the campaign for whatever reason, please let me know. As far as I'm aware, this change should not effect anyone currently in the campaign.

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November 12, 2019, 07:09:32 PM
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Speaking of that, I've finally updated the campaign rules to utilize the new trust system. It now reads this:
Is that "common sense" I am seeing?? on bitcointalk??!? Shocked Shocked Shocked

Seriously tho, as I read it, that seems like a relatively "sensible" update to the rules... removes the whole "feedback wars" scenario from play. That is to say, people aren't likely to get nuked from the campaign simply because they get on the wrong side of a DT1/2 member who gives them negative trust for something stupid and/or inconsequential...

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November 12, 2019, 07:29:09 PM
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Seriously tho, as I read it, that seems like a relatively "sensible" update to the rules... removes the whole "feedback wars" scenario from play. That is to say, people aren't likely to get nuked from the campaign simply because they get on the wrong side of a DT1/2 member who gives them negative trust for something stupid and/or inconsequential...
That means someone like bill gator (Trust score loading...) wouldn't be removed under the current rules.

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November 12, 2019, 08:18:11 PM
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That means someone like bill gator wouldn't be removed under the current rules.
There will likely always be "edge" cases that "break" any given set of rules... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Bill's was a particularly polarising instance... as there are a number of DT members with very firm opinions on account sales. Also, the way that the entire situation was handled by both sides wasn't particularly great in my opinion.

I was talking more of the "likes lemons" scenario Wink  Having said that, I believe DarkStar_ has already exercised commonsense in a previous instance where a user was tagged for something that wasn't necessarily an attempted scam (I think it was HabBear from memory? Huh) they were given a chance to sort it out instead of just simply removing them from the campaign.

I guess my point is that the whole "not necessarily against the forums rules, but frowned upon"-type tagging can, in my opinion, be a bit harsh at times... especially when some members operate what is effectively a "zero tolerance with no chance of appeal" approach to trust. Undecided

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November 12, 2019, 08:46:45 PM
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I guess my point is that the whole "not necessarily against the forums rules, but frowned upon"-type tagging can, in my opinion, be a bit harsh at times...

Technically speaking, scamming people isn't against the (non-existent) "forum rules" either, but I doubt DarkStar_ would allow a proven scammer to remain on this campaign, even if he still had more positive than negative reviews.


especially when some members operate what is effectively a "zero tolerance with no chance of appeal" approach to trust. Undecided

I'm not one of those who red-tagged bill gator's account, but I do count myself as one of those who have a zero-tolerance policy for account sales.  It's a fraud from the word "go."  Having said that, I really felt bad for bill when he was removed from this campaign.  I think it was the right move for the health of the campaign, advertisers need to be trusted to be effective.

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November 12, 2019, 09:31:34 PM
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Seriously tho, as I read it, that seems like a relatively "sensible" update to the rules... removes the whole "feedback wars" scenario from play. That is to say, people aren't likely to get nuked from the campaign simply because they get on the wrong side of a DT1/2 member who gives them negative trust for something stupid and/or inconsequential...
That means someone like bill gator (Trust score loading...) wouldn't be removed under the current rules.

The way I read it, it says "may cause" and DarkStar_ can still remove or not remove anyone of any reason, as it should be.

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Seriously tho, as I read it, that seems like a relatively "sensible" update to the rules... removes the whole "feedback wars" scenario from play. That is to say, people aren't likely to get nuked from the campaign simply because they get on the wrong side of a DT1/2 member who gives them negative trust for something stupid and/or inconsequential...
That means someone like bill gator (Trust score loading...) wouldn't be removed under the current rules.

The way I read it, it says "may cause" and DarkStar_ can still remove or not remove anyone of any reason, as it should be.

It's pretty much just getting rid of the blanket "you receive DT2 negative trust, you get removed" policy as a negative is no longer as harsh as it once was. It's intentionally vauge enough to provide a bit of clarification but to also allow me to handle things on a case by case basis.

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November 13, 2019, 04:13:41 PM
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I think it's a good move anyway, better reflection of the current trust system.

I don't know if the "trade with extreme caution" thing is still going though if that comes from a similar system than what you've suggested?

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November 17, 2019, 01:29:13 AM
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I want to point out that the only way someone could have this information is if they are conducting de-facto surveillance on the entire forum on an ongoing basis. There is no other way to detect the start/end dates of signature campaign like this, nor the 'users', 'posts', and 'deleted' columns. This is further evidence that all posts made by anyone is being collected (surveilled). This is evidence that this person has a database of every post in the forum.

I have been unable to not rule out anything this person is doing except conducting surveillance on forum members.

I consider this to be especially ironic considering that ChipMixer is paying this person to advertise a service that claims to have "reinvented mixing for your *privacy*". I think this makes about as much sense as Casey Anthony advertising for a product that claims to keep your young children safe.


Just my two sats...


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November 17, 2019, 01:52:10 AM
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I want to point out that the only way someone could have this information is if they are conducting de-facto surveillance on the entire forum on an ongoing basis. There is no other way to detect the start/end dates of signature campaign like this, nor the 'users', 'posts', and 'deleted' columns. This is further evidence that all posts made by anyone is being collected (surveilled). This is evidence that this person has a database of every post in the forum.

I have been unable to not rule out anything this person is doing except conducting surveillance on forum members.

I consider this to be especially ironic considering that ChipMixer is paying this person to advertise a service that claims to have "reinvented mixing for your *privacy*". I think this makes about as much sense as Casey Anthony advertising for a product that claims to keep your young children safe.


Just my two sats...

If you make a post on a forum for people to read, don't complain that people (or bots) are reading them. Simple as that. If you wish to make anonymous posts, your best bet is to either keep registering new accounts or use an alternative board like 4chan.

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I want to point out that the only way someone could have this information is if they are conducting de-facto surveillance on the entire forum on an ongoing basis. There is no other way to detect the start/end dates of signature campaign like this, nor the 'users', 'posts', and 'deleted' columns. This is further evidence that all posts made by anyone is being collected (surveilled). This is evidence that this person has a database of every post in the forum.

I have been unable to not rule out anything this person is doing except conducting surveillance on forum members.

I consider this to be especially ironic considering that ChipMixer is paying this person to advertise a service that claims to have "reinvented mixing for your *privacy*". I think this makes about as much sense as Casey Anthony advertising for a product that claims to keep your young children safe.


Just my two sats...

If you make a post on a forum for people to read, don't complain that people (or bots) are reading them. Simple as that. If you wish to make anonymous posts, your best bet is to either keep registering new accounts or use an alternative board like 4chan.
I am not aware of any other forum in which the mass collection of posts are allowed.

I guess the cigarette companies would know who would be good candidates that would need lung cancer insurance for them to sell on the inside of the box...


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November 17, 2019, 02:15:01 AM
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Your point would have been valid if he was attempting the collection of personal information, however, none of the data in all the topics you linked here are personal or private, this is all public information which is/was available for anyone with a cheap VPS to store, the interpretation of this public data remains a free-choice, everyone can do whatever they want with it as long as it does not violate any rule/law.

To put this in another form, knowing when someone joined/left a signature campaign or deleted x number of posts within x period of time does nothing to their privacy.

If you think this is sort of privacy invasion,then linking alt accounts using their BTC or eth address is even worse, and I think most people do that ,and nobody complained.

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November 17, 2019, 02:53:36 AM
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I am not aware of any other forum in which the mass collection of posts are allowed.

So, go to another forum and hope that no one scrapes publicly available information. This is a 'problem' with the forum administration, so I suppose you could consider making a thread in Meta to petition theymos to ban those scraping posts. Pretty much every forum has Google/Bing crawlers that essentially perform mass collection of posts for indexing purposes. Reddit has user created mass collection of posts too.


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November 17, 2019, 02:57:36 AM
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I want to point out that the only way someone could have this information is if they are conducting de-facto surveillance on the entire forum on an ongoing basis. There is no other way to detect the start/end dates of signature campaign like this, nor the 'users', 'posts', and 'deleted' columns. This is further evidence that all posts made by anyone is being collected (surveilled). This is evidence that this person has a database of every post in the forum.

What a horrible person, collects public information and uses it for horrible purposes too. Put him on the distrust list ASAP.

Not sure why you buried this earth-shattering expose in this thread though. File a proper scam accusation. Preferably along with the real reason why you're concerned about this.

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November 17, 2019, 10:38:17 PM
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I am not aware of any other forum in which the mass collection of posts are allowed.

What do you call what Google or any other search engine is doing?

Your claims are juste as pointless as usual.

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November 18, 2019, 01:17:31 AM
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I am not aware of any other forum in which the mass collection of posts are allowed.

Lol, please define forum.  A collections of posts, maybe?  All publicly accessible posts?   Roll Eyes

I think this just became number one on QuickSeller's List of Asinine Accusations.

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