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May 02, 2013, 07:40:10 PM
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Hey guys,

I want to get my computer set on LiteCoin mining. I'm abit curious what it can do.

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/2791525.png

However it seems that I do not know hot to set up the scrypt miner properly.

Since I cannot join the litecoinpool.org pool I went for the other two pools but couldn't get any of them running.

Also Scryptminer uses only 8 threads. Kinda not enough if you have 48 cores...

Could anybody help me set this up properly?

Is the Miner in the LiteCoin wallet weaker?
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May 02, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
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Just to get going quickly, I downloaded guiminer-scrypt and joined wemineltc.com. My 5770 is running at around 300 kH/s, generating around .5 ltc per day. It was very easy to get it working.

Edited to clarify that I used guiminer-scrypt, since it's different from guiminer.
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May 02, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
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What card do you have? There's a great thread here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117221.0
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May 02, 2013, 08:09:23 PM
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I think I got this running now. I made 6 copies of the Scryptminer - folder...

http://abload.de/img/litecointmupr.png

I wonder if this is normal though. Doesn't look like much. 48 cores @ 2.5 GHz and I get 210 kHash/s?

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May 02, 2013, 08:11:51 PM
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What card do you have? There's a great thread here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117221.0
I'm using this guiminer, it's working fine so far.
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May 02, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
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Just to get going quickly, I downloaded guiminer-scrypt and joined wemineltc.com. My 5770 is running at around 300 kH/s, generating around .5 ltc per day. It was very easy to get it working.

Edited to clarify that I used guiminer-scrypt, since it's different from guiminer.

What is your core and memory? I have 6770 and I have 225 kh/s 985-1200.
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May 02, 2013, 09:50:44 PM
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holy poo cow. that is a lot of cores.
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May 02, 2013, 09:52:25 PM
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Why dont you use GPU to mine?

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May 02, 2013, 09:57:06 PM
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Just to get going quickly, I downloaded guiminer-scrypt and joined wemineltc.com. My 5770 is running at around 300 kH/s, generating around .5 ltc per day. It was very easy to get it working.

Edited to clarify that I used guiminer-scrypt, since it's different from guiminer.

What is your core and memory? I have 6770 and I have 225 kh/s 985-1200.
I'll check when I get home, don't recall the exact numbers. I think the guiminer is reporting 200 kH/s, but my stats on wemineltc.com are a bit higher, although it fluctuates between 200k and 400k, typically around 300k.
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May 02, 2013, 11:20:34 PM
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Why dont you use GPU to mine?

It's a folding farm, and I was only testing if the CPU based platform can compete...
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May 03, 2013, 03:25:13 AM
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Just to get going quickly, I downloaded guiminer-scrypt and joined wemineltc.com. My 5770 is running at around 300 kH/s, generating around .5 ltc per day. It was very easy to get it working.

Edited to clarify that I used guiminer-scrypt, since it's different from guiminer.

What is your core and memory? I have 6770 and I have 225 kh/s 985-1200.
GPU clock is 850, memory clock is 1200. according to guiminer-script, it's running at 198kH/s. apparently that is accurate and the number being reported by the pool is not, so your card is 27kH/s faster.
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May 03, 2013, 03:31:42 AM
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It's a folding farm, and I was only testing if the CPU based platform can compete...

GPU mining should net you more unless you can get 35 hash from all 48 cores...
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May 03, 2013, 06:50:11 AM
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what do you mean?

I have 35 kHash/s per 8 cores. That's the best my computer can do it seems...
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May 03, 2013, 01:27:39 PM
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With this you don't even need to think about mining. Sry bro.
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May 03, 2013, 02:13:26 PM
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Just to get going quickly, I downloaded guiminer-scrypt and joined wemineltc.com. My 5770 is running at around 300 kH/s, generating around .5 ltc per day. It was very easy to get it working.

Edited to clarify that I used guiminer-scrypt, since it's different from guiminer.

Hi

I also have a 5770 and do about 200 or so Hashes.. So 300K is very very very good!

Did you overclocked it? What settings are you using?

regards,

P
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May 03, 2013, 03:21:22 PM
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Just to get going quickly, I downloaded guiminer-scrypt and joined wemineltc.com. My 5770 is running at around 300 kH/s, generating around .5 ltc per day. It was very easy to get it working.

Edited to clarify that I used guiminer-scrypt, since it's different from guiminer.

Hi

I also have a 5770 and do about 200 or so Hashes.. So 300K is very very very good!

Did you overclocked it? What settings are you using?

regards,

P


300K seems to be unbelievable for 5770, google for 'litecoin mining hardware comparison'
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May 03, 2013, 03:27:58 PM
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My 7970 is running at around 600 kH/s, generating around .10 ltc per day.
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May 03, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
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Why dont you use GPU to mine?

It's a folding farm, and I was only testing if the CPU based platform can compete...

whats a folding farm?
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May 03, 2013, 06:50:09 PM
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Just to get going quickly, I downloaded guiminer-scrypt and joined wemineltc.com. My 5770 is running at around 300 kH/s, generating around .5 ltc per day. It was very easy to get it working.

Edited to clarify that I used guiminer-scrypt, since it's different from guiminer.

Hi

I also have a 5770 and do about 200 or so Hashes.. So 300K is very very very good!

Did you overclocked it? What settings are you using?

regards,

P
300K seems to be unbelievable for 5770, google for 'litecoin mining hardware comparison'
I just found out that the amount being reported by the pool is not accurate for lower amounts. The amount being reported by the miner is 200 kH/s, which is consistent with what others are getting. Sorry, didn't know I couldn't take the report from the pool as accurate.
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May 04, 2013, 07:42:53 AM
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Why dont you use GPU to mine?

It's a folding farm, and I was only testing if the CPU based platform can compete...

whats a folding farm?

A computer dedicated to folding@home. For this particular purpose it's ideal...
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May 04, 2013, 07:52:47 AM
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My 7970 is running at around 600 kH/s, generating around .10 ltc per day.

33 LiteCoins are one Bitcoin (i believe) so it would take you nearly a year to mine with a 7970 to get to 1 bitcoin?
This makes no sense what so ever. I don't fully understand how this works yet, but I will let my folding farm mine for litecoins for a few days. I really want to know what happens if I put a real effort into it.

I have no doubt that it will not be worth the effort, but unless I really try it for a longer time, I will never know if this computer is any good for this purpose. Someone told me that litecoins are just better for CPU...
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May 04, 2013, 04:08:41 PM
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My 7970 is running at around 600 kH/s, generating around .10 ltc per day.
I just started mining and I'm using wemineltc. It took approximately 66 hours or 2.75 days to generate 1 LTC. That works out to 0.36 LTC per day, from 200 kH/s. That amount is consistent with the "calculator" on the pool website. If your card is generating 3x the hash rate, you should be generating 1 LTC per day.
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May 04, 2013, 04:10:55 PM
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My 7970 is running at around 600 kH/s, generating around .10 ltc per day.

33 LiteCoins are one Bitcoin (i believe) so it would take you nearly a year to mine with a 7970 to get to 1 bitcoin?
This makes no sense what so ever. I don't fully understand how this works yet, but I will let my folding farm mine for litecoins for a few days. I really want to know what happens if I put a real effort into it.

I have no doubt that it will not be worth the effort, but unless I really try it for a longer time, I will never know if this computer is any good for this purpose. Someone told me that litecoins are just better for CPU...

If you're suggesting that CPU is preferable for LTC, I disagree. It would take FOREVER to generate anything with a CPU. A GPU works better for LTC than BTC because of the use of scrypt, rather than just SHA256.
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May 04, 2013, 04:44:21 PM
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My 7970 is running at around 600 kH/s, generating around .10 ltc per day.

33 LiteCoins are one Bitcoin (i believe) so it would take you nearly a year to mine with a 7970 to get to 1 bitcoin?
This makes no sense what so ever. I don't fully understand how this works yet, but I will let my folding farm mine for litecoins for a few days. I really want to know what happens if I put a real effort into it.

I have no doubt that it will not be worth the effort, but unless I really try it for a longer time, I will never know if this computer is any good for this purpose. Someone told me that litecoins are just better for CPU...

If you're suggesting that CPU is preferable for LTC, I disagree. It would take FOREVER to generate anything with a CPU. A GPU works better for LTC than BTC because of the use of scrypt, rather than just SHA256.

I agree with bimmerdriver, as if you use your CPU to mine, you need a better cooling system for it since it heats up faster than a gpu mining at 70%

the cpu and motherboard will die easily if you continue to mine since the CPU is a "brain" while a GPU is a "worker"

let the worker do the stuff, let the brain do commands

 Cool

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May 04, 2013, 04:56:22 PM
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My 7970 is running at around 600 kH/s, generating around .10 ltc per day.

33 LiteCoins are one Bitcoin (i believe) so it would take you nearly a year to mine with a 7970 to get to 1 bitcoin?
This makes no sense what so ever. I don't fully understand how this works yet, but I will let my folding farm mine for litecoins for a few days. I really want to know what happens if I put a real effort into it.

I have no doubt that it will not be worth the effort, but unless I really try it for a longer time, I will never know if this computer is any good for this purpose. Someone told me that litecoins are just better for CPU...

If you're suggesting that CPU is preferable for LTC, I disagree. It would take FOREVER to generate anything with a CPU. A GPU works better for LTC than BTC because of the use of scrypt, rather than just SHA256.

You misunderstand. CPU based platforms I hear only benefit more from the litecoin inscriptions compared to Bitcoins.
That the GPU is better is completely obvious. But I really wanna know what happens... So I'll give it a go tomorrow Wink
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May 04, 2013, 05:14:09 PM
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My 7970 is running at around 600 kH/s, generating around .10 ltc per day.

33 LiteCoins are one Bitcoin (i believe) so it would take you nearly a year to mine with a 7970 to get to 1 bitcoin?
This makes no sense what so ever. I don't fully understand how this works yet, but I will let my folding farm mine for litecoins for a few days. I really want to know what happens if I put a real effort into it.

I have no doubt that it will not be worth the effort, but unless I really try it for a longer time, I will never know if this computer is any good for this purpose. Someone told me that litecoins are just better for CPU...

If you're suggesting that CPU is preferable for LTC, I disagree. It would take FOREVER to generate anything with a CPU. A GPU works better for LTC than BTC because of the use of scrypt, rather than just SHA256.

You misunderstand. CPU based platforms I hear only benefit more from the litecoin inscriptions compared to Bitcoins.
That the GPU is better is completely obvious. But I really wanna know what happens... So I'll give it a go tomorrow Wink

good luck
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May 04, 2013, 06:22:48 PM
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Not too bad:

http://abload.de/img/bildschirmfotovom2013vhuyu.png

250kHash/s for a CPU based mining computer has to be quite impressive.... Smiley
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May 05, 2013, 08:05:30 AM
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Damn. The CPU remains at 1.8 GHz. Sad

It should be at 2.5. I suppose if I get the CPU running like it should I'd be at 350 Khash/s
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May 05, 2013, 10:50:48 AM
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A little fun update Smiley Windows overclocked and still only 240 kHash/s Smiley

http://abload.de/img/fun1atue1.jpg

At least I cracked a few nice benchmark scores with that frequency if nothing else
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May 05, 2013, 12:16:58 PM
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Just an fyi, mining anything with a CPU is several orders of magnitude less efficient/effective than any GPU.  You can literally run a BTC/LTC mining rig with an older single core processor and not diminish the results.  GPU = god.
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May 06, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
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It seems so, indeed.

The litecoin thing isn't the solution I was looking for. I was kinda thinking that the 48 cores @ 2.5 GHz could do something. They crush anything CPU based..

I mean check this out: http://youtu.be/tZzLPOWoVbU
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May 06, 2013, 11:48:50 AM
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Nice machine man Smiley
But I am afraid even for what you use it usually, programming a GPU might be faster (but, depending on your memory requirements, you might want to take a look at a nVidia Titan or an equivalent AMD card).

One other note:
You might want to compare that performance to linux. When I use x264 for encoding on my Xeon the performance gain is close to 10% Wink
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May 06, 2013, 01:44:27 PM
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Interesting thread!
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Nice machine man Smiley
But I am afraid even for what you use it usually, programming a GPU might be faster (but, depending on your memory requirements, you might want to take a look at a nVidia Titan or an equivalent AMD card).

One other note:
You might want to compare that performance to linux. When I use x264 for encoding on my Xeon the performance gain is close to 10% Wink

Actually I was trying to sell that rig for the good part of May, and I didn't manage to get a buyer at a price I consider normal for a computer of this magnitude. To be fair, it really is a niche product, and obviously it's hard to get a buyer either way. But since I kinda stopped selling it. I don't see any reason to sell it off cheap, especially considering it's performance level in CPU based applications. It just crushes anything else in Folding@Home basically. And thats what it was originally meant to do. I just figured I'd give something else a shot, and check out if I like the "new" numbers. But in this case I really don't.

I will try to find something to do with it, and if I cannot it will maintain folding for a while.

Originally my idea was to make it run Windows and to make it run with a real 3D-capable graphic card in there. the HD4870 I have in there (an old card which is a bit damaged too), was merely to make it possible to test it. But I can't even start any 3D application because there are no drivers for Windows Server. And I haven't had luck finding in google a way to make AMD HD cards run in Windows Server. If I could make it run, I'd want to know how the CPUs would handle 3DMark, and with that I'd know if it be worth buying a GTX 660 ti or HD7950 so I could play games on that computer if I feel like it. Right now I don't have a PC besides this one. Only a MacBook pro I use 24/7....
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