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May 30, 2017, 02:15:51 AM
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gandang araw. gusto ko sana humingi ng payo regarding sa mining ng bitcoin.

una sa lahat anong pyesa/parts ba need ko? may mga nakita kasi akong usb type na ginagamit. at meron din akong nakita gpu ang ginagamit.
ano po ba ang mas okie?

kunwari po nag set up ako ng ganito.

3 video card.
1k watts psu (di pa ko sure sa watts na need)
mobo na 3 slots compatible sa gpu
cpu na di naman high end.
hard disk.
ram (anong ram maganda gamitin?)

mga mag kano kaya per day ito. at bawi kaya sa elec bill itong set up?

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Go for 1k+ watts with gold or platinum rated (Mine is Seasonic 1k watts platinum rated bought it as second hand for 4,500 pesos)
Get a motherboard with 6 gpu slots (Mine is Asrock fatal1ty b250 gaming k4 Brandnew at 5500 pesos)
PCI 1x16 Riser (500-600 eac pesos at lazada 1month to arrive or 1k ea at tipidpc sellers)
I suggest Rx 570 or 470 Low electric fee at a cheap price 10k more or less per GPU (ETH)
Refer to the link for more gpu info,
https://www.nicehash.com/?p=calc

Suggest ko ang nicehash kasi autoconvert ang payment mo to bitcoin. Sa sobrang taas ng transaction fee ng bitcoin ngayon i rather choose nicehash.

Pero if you want to farm the exact coin you want you can still use nicehash pool. Hanap ka nlng ng guide sa google.
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May 30, 2017, 11:38:01 AM
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salamat tol. tinignan ko yung list ng vc. best pick yung Amd Rx 570. 10k price cya
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May 30, 2017, 12:08:54 PM
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I-update mo kami kung ano ang progress ng mining mo. Sa tingin ko kasi hindi sya profitable. Kasi kuryente pa lang medyo tagilid ka na. Medyo matatagalan siguro bago mo mabawi yung pinambili mo ng rig mo. Pero kung solar powered yang mining rig mo. Sa tingin ko mas lalaki pa kita mo. Pero goodluck parin.
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May 30, 2017, 01:07:59 PM
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I-update mo kami kung ano ang progress ng mining mo. Sa tingin ko kasi hindi sya profitable. Kasi kuryente pa lang medyo tagilid ka na. Medyo matatagalan siguro bago mo mabawi yung pinambili mo ng rig mo. Pero kung solar powered yang mining rig mo. Sa tingin ko mas lalaki pa kita mo. Pero goodluck parin.
Tama ka diyan hindi talaga sulit ang pagmimina sa Pinas depende nalang kung napakadami mong unit pero kung iilan lang lugi ka talaga,
pero kung talagang gusto niya sige push mo then update mo na lang dito para sa mga may gusto eh ma inspire din baka nga naman talagang profitable din kahit na napakataas ng kuryente.
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May 30, 2017, 02:55:59 PM
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I-update mo kami kung ano ang progress ng mining mo. Sa tingin ko kasi hindi sya profitable. Kasi kuryente pa lang medyo tagilid ka na. Medyo matatagalan siguro bago mo mabawi yung pinambili mo ng rig mo. Pero kung solar powered yang mining rig mo. Sa tingin ko mas lalaki pa kita mo. Pero goodluck parin.
Tama ka diyan hindi talaga sulit ang pagmimina sa Pinas depende nalang kung napakadami mong unit pero kung iilan lang lugi ka talaga,
pero kung talagang gusto niya sige push mo then update mo na lang dito para sa mga may gusto eh ma inspire din baka nga naman talagang profitable din kahit na napakataas ng kuryente.

yung isa kilala ko na may isang setup ng mining rig, umaabot ng 900 to 1K per day raw kita nung isang mining rig nya, kaya nga napapaisip sya kung ibebenta nya na buong computer shop nya para ibili na lang ng mining rig, nakakapagod raw kasi mag shop, pagod puyat bago kitain yung 1K per day, eh kung 1 mining rig lang masetup mo, mag aantay ka na lang, puwede ka pa matulog ng matulog basta na stable mo takbo nung mining rig mo. mura kuryente sa lugar nya, yun dahilan kaya malakas loob nya sa mining rig na subukan yun at mag setup ng ganun, kahit mahal talaga.
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May 30, 2017, 03:01:14 PM
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Di ba mataas ang kompetisyon sa pagmimina ng bitcoin?
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May 30, 2017, 03:56:03 PM
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Kung gusto mo talaga ng serious bitcoin mining bumili ka ng ASIC's kase yan talaga ang dedicated machine for bitcoin mining, Kung ikukumpara mo sila sa CPU at GPU mining mas malaki ang Hash power ng ASIC's . Search mo yung Antminer S9 kaso ang alam ko sobrang mahal non as in thousand dollars . Kung antminer S7 mas mura-mura yon, Ang di ko alam ay kung may mabibili ka dito non . Marami nyan sa mga online shop mostly yung mga based on US so may TAX ka pang babayaran panigurado .

Interms of hashing power: CPU < GPU < ASIC's

Di ba mataas ang kompetisyon sa pagmimina ng bitcoin?
Mataas nga kaya pagalingan na lang sa mga rigs Grin Grin  . Kaya yung ibang hanggang CPU/GPU lang naga-altcoin mining na lang

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May 31, 2017, 12:13:44 AM
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gandang araw. gusto ko sana humingi ng payo regarding sa mining ng bitcoin.

una sa lahat anong pyesa/parts ba need ko? may mga nakita kasi akong usb type na ginagamit. at meron din akong nakita gpu ang ginagamit.
ano po ba ang mas okie?

kunwari po nag set up ako ng ganito.

3 video card.
1k watts psu (di pa ko sure sa watts na need)
mobo na 3 slots compatible sa gpu
cpu na di naman high end.
hard disk.
ram (anong ram maganda gamitin?)

mga mag kano kaya per day ito. at bawi kaya sa elec bill itong set up?



kung meralco paggagamitan mo ng kuryente, wag mo na ituloy. napakamahal kasi ng singil sa kuryente ng meralco, mas mura pa dun sa mga maliliit na energy company, mas mura ng 4 na beses kesa sa singil nila, kaya kung mining rig talaga gusto mo, hanap ka ng lugar na kung san may murang singil sa kuryente, o kung may pangsetup ka solar electricity mas ok yun, less gastos ka sa kuryente kikita ka talaga, basta wag lang sa meralco kuryente gamitin mo, sure maliit na lang kikitain mo kasi mapupunta lang yun sa pambayad ng kuryente mo.

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May 31, 2017, 01:34:15 AM
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kung gus2 mong mag old school.. meron akong Antminer S3..  for P10k. assuming u alredy know how to set this thing up.. GPU mining with nicehash is good.. but eventually its not good for your desktop PC. it will burn your unit.  Grin  Grin just saying.
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May 31, 2017, 01:55:59 AM
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gumamit ka ng nicehash direct BTC  pa ang payout. If you ask kung profitable ba? meralco lang makaka pag sabi nyan, i know numerous people from luzon area na nasa nicehash farming, and they say profitable naman. I cant attest to that kasi mindanao area ako at for me profitable naman siya.

With just 3 GPU i generate 0.0053 BTC per day or 643 pesos / day at current rate ni coins.ph
This is my statistic https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?utm_source=NHM&p=miners&addr=39abKu5EmFGAfGA5qamaMo7eTPeewncoAm

Im mining ETH but being paid with BTC
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mag kano nmn ung gastos mo sa setup nag mining rig mo? paki breakdown nga? at saka kelan mo ba ma break even yung gastos mo sa mining rig mo pra ma sabi mo na profitable xa?  cgro ung ginastos mo sa mining rig mo mga P50k pa taas.. kahit ano pang calculator ginamit mo saka mo na ma sabing profitable yan kpag na break even mo na ung gastos mo. unless lang if your a rich kid.. burning some cash.. well that would be not so so so bad.

3 GPU's
 RX bla3x -                          P12-15k
 RX bla3x -                          P12-15k
 Rx ba3x -                           P12 -15k
 CPU  core i3 - i7 or amd -      P5k-10k
PSU 1000 watts above -         P5k-10k
maderboard -                        P3k-5k   
electricity -                         P500

kayo nalang mag estimate... pwede na rin yan. sa tingin nyo?
pro may ader solution.. cloudmining. mg bayad ka lang nang contract, do the math wla pang hassle.

but all of the above if you are so so so rich.. wlang problema.

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May 31, 2017, 02:39:15 AM
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Hi mga ka bitcoin. Saan pwede bumili nang miner para sa laptop yung mura lang po sana para kumita din ako. Maraming nagsasabi na hindi  porfitable ang pagmamamine dito sa pilipinas dahil sa mahal nang kuryente pero yung isang bahay namin ay may jumper o libreng kuryente siguro kung mag mamine ako maari ako kumita nang malaki . Sana may tumulong kung papaano ako magmamine at kung papaano ako mag uumpisa yung pang laptop po sana.
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so expensive  pla tlag mag mining dami kailangan.

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May 31, 2017, 03:00:06 AM
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so expensive  pla tlag mag mining dami kailangan.

ganyan talaga yan boss. pero i think bawi naman ang capital mo pag kumita kana sa pag mimina ng bitcoin.
ganyan naman talaga yan, need mo ng capital. if madami kang pera, pwede kana mag mina basta ok at kompleto na yung mga gamit mo.
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so expensive  pla tlag mag mining dami kailangan.

may isa pa akong nakalimutan...


internet koneksyon  -  P500-P1k

uu magastos pag hardware mining.. pwera lang kng may malaki kang capital.. no probs yun..
kaya ako cloud mining nlng ginagamit ko. sa Genesis-mining.com 

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May 31, 2017, 07:14:38 AM
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Siguro gasto ko is, like this

RX 570 4GB Sapphire Pulse = 9950
RX 470 4GB Sapphire = 10700
r9 280x MSI = 4500 bought second hand sa tipidPC.com seller
1000 watts PSU Seasonic = 4500 bought second hand sa tipidPC.com
1 PCIE 1x16 riser = 800

Asrock b250 gaming k4 MBoard = 5500
4GB Ram = 2000
Intel Processor = 2000
Total = 39,950

peso per day from mining is 650 x 30days (1 Month) = 19,500 pesos (Still depends on BTC price)

You do the math kung ilan months para bawiin ang na gasto mo, Since electrical fee depends on location. Hindi ko na isasali ang internet fee, since whether i mine or not mag papakabit pa din ako ng internet. Keyboard at mouse hindi ko na sinali sa computation, reused old pc parts.
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May 31, 2017, 07:26:07 AM
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Siguro gasto ko is, like this

RX 570 4GB Sapphire Pulse = 9950
RX 470 4GB Sapphire = 10700
r9 280x MSI = 4500 bought second hand sa tipidPC.com seller
1000 watts PSU Seasonic = 4500 bought second hand sa tipidPC.com
1 PCIE 1x16 riser = 800

Asrock b250 gaming k4 MBoard = 5500
4GB Ram = 2000
Intel Processor = 2000
Total = 39,950

peso per day from mining is 650 x 30days (1 Month) = 19,500 pesos (Still depends on BTC price)

You do the math kung ilan months para bawiin ang na gasto mo, Since electrical fee depends on location. Hindi ko na isasali ang internet fee, since whether i mine or not mag papakabit pa din ako ng internet. Keyboard at mouse hindi ko na sinali sa computation, reused old pc parts.

May mga nakausap rin ako na nagmine at so far profitable naman pero kunti lang yung gain. Yung ROI kaya 6 to 12 months depende na sa sitwasyon. Yung sayo binigay mo na set up bro yung kuryente nasa 8,000 rin noh? Konsider natin base sa lugar mo. Salamat.

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May mga nakausap rin ako na nagmine at so far profitable naman pero kunti lang yung gain. Yung ROI kaya 6 to 12 months depende na sa sitwasyon. Yung sayo binigay mo na set up bro yung kuryente nasa 8,000 rin noh? Konsider natin base sa lugar mo. Salamat.

Mindanao base kasi ako, electric provider namin is SOCOTECOII around 5 kwph. RX series GPU ay very minimal sa koryente kaya yan po talaga ang recommended at Heat output not so much without aircon nasa 60-65 degrees lang, lagyan mo ng electric fan dagdag heat dissipation.

i cannot give an exact amount about electric consumption ko pero bill ko last month is 1600.
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ok whatever u say boss.. e update mo nlng kami kung sa tingin mo mkkuha mo yung ROI mo within 6 months onwards.. you're doing your math based on the calculation on the web and on the hardware itself.. tingnan nlng naten kung aabot pba ung hardware mo hanggang 6-8 months.. your just saying this becoz u have all the money you can burn.. ikaw lng nkka alam nyan.. talaga.

by the way.. ur calculation is fixed assuming that nothing will happen within 6months of operation.. you should consider factors like:

electricity:

black out
kwH increase
rotating brown outs?
electric post maintenance
bagyo or disaster
nasa Mindanao ka
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internet:

walang connection
hindi nka bayad
atbp

hardware:

3x GPU assuming 24/7 uma andar ung device mo..(goodluck)
CPU assuming 24/7 ding uma andar.. (advice ko bumili ka nang thermal paste, tip lang)
PSU siguraduhin mo lang na may surge protection yan( kung wala bumilika nang AVR at UPS)baka masira pa ung rig mo

do not do just ur math.. analyze things that will come along the way.. assuming that all is well and 100%, well that's good.
I really wish you well in your mining.. or shall I say hobby.. 


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