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November 12, 2018, 09:46:27 AM
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The only thing that is going to matter during gambling is luck. Even if you do some hard work, there will be little impact of any of that. In the end, we need to realize that gambling is a hobby rather than an avenue to make money.

It is the luck that decides the fate whether you will win or not . Very few games where your skills comes into play and which will help you to win the game and poker is one of them where experience and skill is very useful to make you win the game .
Yes that lucks always matter, but there are many people who did hark work to master a game to able to make more money or have advantage to other player specially in offline gambling. But in online gambling i think this is only pure base on the luck of player.

Yes many card games require you to be master of it and have a great strategy so that you can have a greater advantage as compared to other players. Along with strategy even experience does counts in those games as it will enable you judge near to perfection and play accordingly and win the game. So hard work only will help in some games that too with your smart moves.


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November 13, 2018, 06:08:19 AM
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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.
someone who continues to focus on gambling they can certainly find a solution to play with the right calculations and reviews, this causes his addiction to gamble only to perfect the game and look for gaps in playing style with mature strategies. another case with people who are addicted to gambling only hopes for victory, it can have a bad impact because they continue to play greedy without calculation.
The truth is that someone who decided to invest a lot of time into gambling and thought with hard work they can get something out of it, will only find out in the end how much they have so failed to realize that gambling was not meant for profit making, it is just a game in which you can get lucky and most of the time, that luck is never something that would play out the way you want it but what is important is to always keep at the back of your mind, that it is all gambling, and that is all it would ever be, and in that case, the essence of controlling yourself as much as you can is something you should not joke with.

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November 13, 2018, 08:22:32 AM
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Hard work won't pay off in games of chance such as roulette or slots but it will definitely help with sports betting.  Most people don't really do a lot of research into the matches they are betting on.  They just throw money at their hunch or favorite and don't look at all the past statistics.  It's possible to be a professional sports gambler but a lot of hard work is involved.

I definitely agree to you on this one. There are gambling games that can be won with enough research using stats and more but on games of chances like dice and roulette as you said, no matter how hard the work is given, the chance of losing is still greater than your chance of winning even on a game with only 1% house edge
You all will keep saying things that are not practical, at least as far as I am concerned, things that obviously I am 100% certain you have never practically done yourself.

No matter the research and stats you want to look at in gambling, luck will always be luck and that is the only single thing that will apply. People should stop deceiving themselves, thinking they can get to find something they cannot from gambling. If you want to work hard, get a job and use research and stats to pick the best one. Attaching too much than it is to gambling, will only set you ablaze in the long run.
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November 13, 2018, 08:42:44 AM
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well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
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November 13, 2018, 09:34:29 AM
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The only thing that is going to matter during gambling is luck. Even if you do some hard work, there will be little impact of any of that. In the end, we need to realize that gambling is a hobby rather than an avenue to make money.
There is no amount of hard work that will even be of importance to whether you win from gambling or not, and in most cases, it only makes you more vulnerable to losing the more, as you get to expose yourself long into gambling which is what I believe would happen to anyone who thinks with hard work, they can get anything.

Probably, the only thing I see being possible here is hard luck, and if you really want to think hard work will help you, you are just going to end up being trained by the school of hard knocks. Luck is the thing and will always be the thing attached with gambling.
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November 13, 2018, 09:57:20 AM
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well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling  Grin
Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win

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November 13, 2018, 11:00:09 AM
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well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling  Grin
Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win
I don't usually focus on that kind of games as I know my chances is very less and I will loss in the long run.
There are skilled based games, if I aim to become a successful sports gambler in the future, I will focus my time on it but of course with limitation.

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November 13, 2018, 11:26:20 AM
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well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling  Grin
Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win
I don't usually focus on that kind of games as I know my chances is very less and I will loss in the long run.
There are skilled based games, if I aim to become a successful sports gambler in the future, I will focus my time on it but of course with limitation.

We can't really say completely that we can be a successful gambler since there are a lot of times that people who are aiming for these position that flops down, most of them regretting that they've even gamble. Gambling is a good source of income, it is efficient and don't require any energy just skill, knowledge, skill and especially luck but we all know how low the percentage of winning here right? Better keep myself from these games since I can't risk my money on luck-based games, better work on my investing and trading skills.

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November 14, 2018, 02:38:12 AM
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well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling  Grin
Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win
I don't usually focus on that kind of games as I know my chances is very less and I will loss in the long run.
There are skilled based games, if I aim to become a successful sports gambler in the future, I will focus my time on it but of course with limitation.

We can't really say completely that we can be a successful gambler since there are a lot of times that people who are aiming for these position that flops down, most of them regretting that they've even gamble. Gambling is a good source of income, it is efficient and don't require any energy just skill, knowledge, skill and especially luck but we all know how low the percentage of winning here right? Better keep myself from these games since I can't risk my money on luck-based games, better work on my investing and trading skills.
I know its hard but if other people can make money in gambling then it's possible.
Of course we should know our skills if we can make consistent money in gambling, there are a lot of games in gambling, if we can master one
and will make us win consistently then it should easily bring us decent profit.

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November 14, 2018, 04:14:59 AM
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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

I find it fallacious when you compared addiction in gambling to other types of addiction (specifically work) as they are different in nature. When we deal about gambling, everything revolves around luck. As its name and definition, you gamble (which may include some techniques and skill) but what determines the winner will revolve around the odds. Even if an individual possesses or knows every probability formula or math techniques, if the odds are against him then there is nothing that he cannot do. But what separates gamblers who possess such skill may increase their chances of winning.

As I have stated in various threads before, there is no winner in gambling WHEN an individual succumbs to addiction. It will only create an endless cycle of gambling where most people fail and fell in their lives.

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November 15, 2018, 04:37:11 AM
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I know its hard but if other people can make money in gambling then it's possible.
Of course we should know our skills if we can make consistent money in gambling, there are a lot of games in gambling, if we can master one
and will make us win consistently then it should easily bring us decent profit.

Of course it possible to make money in gambling but I don't think that the chance will bigger because we know that it is tough to win the game unless we have a luck chance in that game. Besides that, I don't think that if we can master one game, it will help us to make a profit from gambling because like I said before, we need the luck to get the money and it's only for some people that can do this. For some people, hard work in gambling counted because they think that doing hard work like learn every lesson for that game will help him to win but for the truth, he cannot depends on his hard work because he needs to have great luck.

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November 18, 2018, 10:43:04 PM
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No, it is almost impossible, at least for me, i think that there is no way that you can win to the house.

Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose, but most of the times you are always going to be the losing one, because that is the trick and the way that all those casinos earn their money.

So, welcome to the capitalist era, that is how things works

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