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October 30, 2017, 09:58:43 AM
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Next time Research it.

Anyway, why is the team still anonymous? Elastic is not Monero, and even Monero team members are not anonymous (although they have a lot more reasons to hide).

Because it's their right to stay anonymous is a good reason ? You have to understand that they are not paid devs , it's their free will that pushes this project forward .

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October 30, 2017, 10:02:49 AM
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Next time Research it.

Anyway, why is the team still anonymous? Elastic is not Monero, and even Monero team members are not anonymous (although they have a lot more reasons to hide).

Because it's their right to stay anonymous is a good reason ? You have to understand that they are not paid devs , it's their free will that pushes this project forward .

Well, but how are they going to run marketing if the team is anonymous?

Did they sign a contract as anonymous people as well?
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October 30, 2017, 10:23:43 AM
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Next time Research it.

Anyway, why is the team still anonymous? Elastic is not Monero, and even Monero team members are not anonymous (although they have a lot more reasons to hide).

Because it's their right to stay anonymous is a good reason ? You have to understand that they are not paid devs , it's their free will that pushes this project forward .

Well, but how are they going to run marketing if the team is anonymous?

Did they sign a contract as anonymous people as well?

No contract has signed . It was a move from by rallier as an individual , devs were not aware of this . This is an open source project with the good and bad part of it . The best marketing for XEL will be the working product .

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October 30, 2017, 10:38:28 AM
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Next time Research it.

Anyway, why is the team still anonymous? Elastic is not Monero, and even Monero team members are not anonymous (although they have a lot more reasons to hide).

The members involved with working on the project will remain anonymous if they so choose. That does not prevent the project from being promoted by various means, and such means shall be utilized when relevant opportunities arise.

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October 30, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
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Supercomputers are definetly one of the best use scenarious of blockchain.. Dificult to choose between XEL and SONM though..
I like teams in both projects. Can you share your opinions?

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October 30, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
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Well, i dont understand why the senior devs dont want to promote, but I see the passion in their words. If they are not really interested in the project and do not put a soul in it, they would just accept the help of marketing company and feel happy to get more money. The fact they dont want that means that their main aim is to make a really good project. Nice.
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October 30, 2017, 11:14:12 AM
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Well, i dont understand why the senior devs dont want to promote, but I see the passion in their words. If they are not really interested in the project and do not put a soul in it, they would just accept the help of marketing company and feel happy to get more money. The fact they dont want that means that their main aim is to make a really good project. Nice.

So far I prefer a team that work more on the development than working on the marketing.
Marketing just slowing down the process. We have time to do it later, or as for now, asking it to someone else.
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October 30, 2017, 11:17:00 AM
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Well, i dont understand why the senior devs dont want to promote, but I see the passion in their words. If they are not really interested in the project and do not put a soul in it, they would just accept the help of marketing company and feel happy to get more money. The fact they dont want that means that their main aim is to make a really good project. Nice.

So far I prefer a team that work more on the development than working on the marketing.
Marketing just slowing down the process. We have time to do it later, or as for now, asking it to someone else.

Devs team and marketing teams are seperate. How its gonna slow the process ? Smiley Byrallier not in dev Smiley
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October 30, 2017, 11:21:16 AM
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It's the same thing for bitcoin developers who have never promoted Bitcoin I believe no?

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October 30, 2017, 11:22:51 AM
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Well, i dont understand why the senior devs dont want to promote, but I see the passion in their words. If they are not really interested in the project and do not put a soul in it, they would just accept the help of marketing company and feel happy to get more money. The fact they dont want that means that their main aim is to make a really good project. Nice.

So far I prefer a team that work more on the development than working on the marketing.
Marketing just slowing down the process. We have time to do it later, or as for now, asking it to someone else.

yeah, HyperLoop is right, processes are not slowed in such a situation. But the fact that the main developers do not any pay attention to marketing is THAT cool Smiley
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October 30, 2017, 11:32:10 AM
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Next time Research it.

Anyway, why is the team still anonymous? Elastic is not Monero, and even Monero team members are not anonymous (although they have a lot more reasons to hide).

Come on, no need for the pressure.
There's no reason to request anyone to disclose identity.
Devs can stay anonymous if they want to.
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October 30, 2017, 11:38:26 AM
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Well, i dont understand why the senior devs dont want to promote, but I see the passion in their words. If they are not really interested in the project and do not put a soul in it, they would just accept the help of marketing company and feel happy to get more money. The fact they dont want that means that their main aim is to make a really good project. Nice.

So far I prefer a team that work more on the development than working on the marketing.
Marketing just slowing down the process. We have time to do it later, or as for now, asking it to someone else.

yeah, HyperLoop is right, processes are not slowed in such a situation. But the fact that the main developers do not any pay attention to marketing is THAT cool Smiley

IMO it is better that EK and Coralreefer are more focused on development of Elastic and working towards a finished product than constantly talking about the price or returns and solely focused on pure hype, like so many other devs do. They don't care about money or the price, they care about the progress of XEL and that is why it will do so well in the future. Marketing is always good but the best marketing is a finished product, which is what they are purely focused on.

GEO, RLC & QRL.
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October 30, 2017, 12:38:55 PM
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things looking good for XEL, price going up nicely, good new marketing sign-on, i see twitter hype building.

this coin will pop huge in 2018!  Cool

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October 30, 2017, 12:41:33 PM
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I am a bit surprised how my private conversation with an employee of that "marketing company" ended up here on BCT without me agreeing to it (see above post for the reference)? From a "professional" entity, I would have expected at least some degree of confidentiality regarding our correspondence.
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October 30, 2017, 12:52:30 PM
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There is a discussion currently ongoing in Slack about setting up an Elastic foundation/core group. As many people currently involved with XEL agree that this marketing strategy might be a good idea after the compute engine is finished and not now - Not to market something that isn't quite done yet. This is currently in talks and nothing has been fully decided yet though.


GEO, RLC & QRL.
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October 30, 2017, 01:02:50 PM
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things looking good for XEL, price going up nicely, good new marketing sign-on, i see twitter hype building.

this coin will pop huge in 2018!  Cool
And when it will be necessary to buy this coin?
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October 30, 2017, 01:19:15 PM
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things looking good for XEL, price going up nicely, good new marketing sign-on, i see twitter hype building.

this coin will pop huge in 2018!  Cool
And when it will be necessary to buy this coin?

well now to be honest!  the whole alt market is a buy right now since everything has dumped since the spring/summer pump action from whales, XEL is a coin that still never hit it's highest potential but it should during 2018, BUT this WILL take awhile, longer than some other alts you can probably buy and get returns quicker on (just FYI).

zoomout to the 1 day chart and see...the ideal buy time was 3k-6k sats which you just missed...it's already jumped a lil bit to 7k plus which is still a decent price.  it could easily dump back down again to say 4k range but who knows.  it could make a run to 10k again just as easy.  i do not think we'll see 25k until well into 2018 though.

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XEL

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October 30, 2017, 02:02:48 PM
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Well, i dont understand why the senior devs dont want to promote, but I see the passion in their words. If they are not really interested in the project and do not put a soul in it, they would just accept the help of marketing company and feel happy to get more money. The fact they dont want that means that their main aim is to make a really good project. Nice.

So far I prefer a team that work more on the development than working on the marketing.
Marketing just slowing down the process. We have time to do it later, or as for now, asking it to someone else.

yeah, HyperLoop is right, processes are not slowed in such a situation. But the fact that the main developers do not any pay attention to marketing is THAT cool Smiley

IMO it is better that EK and Coralreefer are more focused on development of Elastic and working towards a finished product than constantly talking about the price or returns and solely focused on pure hype, like so many other devs do. They don't care about money or the price, they care about the progress of XEL and that is why it will do so well in the future. Marketing is always good but the best marketing is a finished product, which is what they are purely focused on.


Absolutely agree Smiley I didnt put a sarcasm in my words about coolness. It is really nice.
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October 30, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Last edit: October 30, 2017, 04:00:17 PM by by rallier
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I typed from slack channel, I am pasting here:

Do we agree marketing is right, we need it at anytime?

This data from elastic.pw visitor analytic. In normally, we have a daily 200 visitor.
We loss visitors day by day. But yesterday is start to increase.
Also twitter follower's increased, reddit follower increased. Newsletter followers increased.
Everyone to be sure, I believe just we need to reach more people with a guidance / a helps. That wasn't a plan about pump dump.
Yes right, they fucked up all community eyes and my eyes.
They said they are professional and they wanted to more content / mottos about XEL for sharing social media keep up to date.
They gave a example Okcash works. I said okcash pump/dump we dont want to say pump/dump scheme.
They said to me, Okcash price drop While btc was big rising.
I agree, I said my first message, If you have a doubt about my works, Come and manage I didn't keep secret that things, anybody need to give a hand for this.
One more example, The company reviewed our information github/website etc.
They recommended to me website need re-design, whitepaper need to re-design. I talked with @distro  he is working on new website.
I contacted with @clivemy I said to him we need revise whitepaper, he worked before on our whitepaper, he said last night, He can't continue and give information to @techwriterjoe he will be   work on about whitepaper
I don't waste my time, I tried to fix When devs focused to development, We could fix something.
We don't have a FAQ!!!
Community members working on it, I am following it for when it's done I will finish on website.
Here is a draft about FAQ: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RaK7Kz3iG9a3F7jC35iMDbOwdffoKcYtFtGb2bhL97o/edit?usp=sharing
That's my understand marketing. Not pump/dump.

I accept that work like marketing things..
If someone judge me about that works, I feel free, Someone talked about my behind like byrallier is nothing etc. I don't care. A lot of people know me and trust me. I don't never bet to pump/dump scheme, It is unreliable for everyone.
I pissed of them for price image on twitter. They removed from twitter, I told to our care about that to them.

Who is trusted guy from our community, I will give domains / newsletter etc to him for marketing today or later. That accounts is not mine. Just I manage for community, feel free.
If someone has an issue with me, PM me pls. I don't want to post on here about that things.


some more words: 2 days ago, Some people discussing about "daily volume" at this topic. if the volume is low, A lot of people scaring from Bittrex removal policy. Did you see yesterday XEL volumes ? It reached 2000BTC. XEL is not a pump/dump coin. But it deserve more people attentions. That is possible with development + marketing. I believe both(dev+marketing) of important XEL.
Thanks for read all this crap.

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October 30, 2017, 05:01:17 PM
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If you keep up what you are doing now, you might kill the project.

A marketing company like this will not work with you ever again. Maybe you can agree to cooperate independently, since marketing doesn't hurt anyone. And the marketing company is offering useful services.

Right now your community needs your response. You are hurting us in the first place.
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