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June 09, 2017, 02:33:01 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6g67gw/censorship_apparently_you_arent_even_allowed_to/

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June 09, 2017, 02:37:57 PM
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Both sides are ridiculous. Roger Ver (Bitcoin.com) uses his website to push his ridiculous big block / / BUcoin agenda, and uses his army of bots to downvote anything that challenges the /r/btc narrative.

Who cares about reddit anyway? just read the information you need and evaluate it yourself to know if it's bullshit or not.
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June 09, 2017, 02:52:46 PM
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Who cares about reddit anyway? just read the information you need and evaluate it yourself to know if it's bullshit or not.

Sure, but you have to ask youself: is one side is SO deathly afraid of the truth that you can't even be allowed read the whitepaper?

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June 09, 2017, 09:32:25 PM
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Who cares about reddit anyway? just read the information you need and evaluate it yourself to know if it's bullshit or not.

Sure, but you have to ask youself: is one side is SO deathly afraid of the truth that you can't even be allowed read the whitepaper?

I think you should rephrase that question to:

"Do the moderators of a subreddit on one side of a debate try to pressure readers into supporting their point of view?"

The answer is, you guessed it, yes.  Then you just have to ask:

"Do the moderators of a subreddit on one side of a debate represent the entire 'side'?"

The answer is, you guessed it, no.

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June 09, 2017, 09:44:24 PM
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solution:

just dont use reddit.

its full of scripted Fud and puppets

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June 09, 2017, 09:48:02 PM
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Who even uses reddit anymore? It's a cesspool of bots and bullshit and it is probably one of the worst platforms for any sort of "discussion" you can use. Both sides have taken an extreme approach to their own views, and now we have a very polarized community which will get nothing done because of it.
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June 09, 2017, 10:10:33 PM
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Which whitepaper do you want to read let me give it to you if you are so desperately looking for one?
You need to understand something about Bitcoin, no body represent it but the whole community.
This is just excuse for attacking the opposition.

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June 09, 2017, 10:24:23 PM
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don't you know that Ver uses r/btc to fool green inexperienced people in crypto. All of its participants are a bunch of Ver's puppets yapping on core and veracious Bitcoin resource r/bitcoin.  Smiley

 
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June 09, 2017, 10:29:08 PM
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Sure, but you have to ask youself: is one side is SO deathly afraid of the truth that you can't even be allowed read the whitepaper?
Absolute nonsense. There is no "truth". The whitepaper is very much outdated and describes a Bitcoin from the past. This is why someone wanted to publish an updated version. If you read the whitepaper, you get the general idea but actually miss out on a lot of stuff. You may even get misled about some things (e.g. no mention of ASIC miners).

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just dont use reddit.

its full of scripted Fud and puppets
I concur. I can't say that this place is that much better though.

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June 09, 2017, 10:55:20 PM
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if someone wants to rewrite the bitcoin paper to 'update' it.. then dont call it the bitcoin paper.. call it the segwit whitepaper that way it doesnt confuse people from the differences of what bitcoin WAS and where the ethos and purpose has changed, because people can then compare them both. rather than thinking the updated version is the only true version

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June 09, 2017, 10:57:31 PM
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if someone wants to rewrite the bitcoin paper to 'update' it.. then dont call it the bitcoin paper.. call it the segwit whitepaper that way it doesnt confuse people from the differences of what bitcoin WAS and where the ethos and purpose has changed, because people can then compare them both. rather than thinking the updated version is the only true version
The rewrite has nothing to do with Segwit, nor was the update related to it. Looks like you are having your metal breakdowns again.

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June 09, 2017, 11:02:27 PM
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if someone wants to rewrite the bitcoin paper to 'update' it.. then dont call it the bitcoin paper.. call it the segwit whitepaper that way it doesnt confuse people from the differences of what bitcoin WAS and where the ethos and purpose has changed, because people can then compare them both. rather than thinking the updated version is the only true version
The rewrite has nothing to do with Segwit, nor was the update related to it. Looks like you are having your metal breakdowns again.

so by the time they update it.. it will be out of date.... might be worth you thinking about that

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June 09, 2017, 11:03:49 PM
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if someone wants to rewrite the bitcoin paper to 'update' it.. then dont call it the bitcoin paper.. call it the segwit whitepaper that way it doesnt confuse people from the differences of what bitcoin WAS and where the ethos and purpose has changed, because people can then compare them both. rather than thinking the updated version is the only true version
The rewrite has nothing to do with Segwit, nor was the update related to it. Looks like you are having your metal breakdowns again.
so by the time they update it.. it will be out of date.... might b worth you thinking about that
Who is *they*? You can update it yourself if you wanted to and publish an updated version. Nobody can prevent you from doing this.

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June 09, 2017, 11:05:53 PM
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if someone wants to rewrite the bitcoin paper to 'update' it.. then dont call it the bitcoin paper.. call it the segwit whitepaper that way it doesnt confuse people from the differences of what bitcoin WAS and where the ethos and purpose has changed, because people can then compare them both. rather than thinking the updated version is the only true version
The rewrite has nothing to do with Segwit, nor was the update related to it. Looks like you are having your metal breakdowns again.
so by the time they update it.. it will be out of date.... might b worth you thinking about that
Who is *they*? You can update it yourself if you wanted to and publish an updated version. Nobody can prevent you from doing this.

"they"... well cobra for one, obviously has been the big mouthpiece that wants to update it.. so they = atleast cobra.... dont be ignorant, you know who 'they' are. even you seem to want to be ok with a re-write happening. so YOU and your desire to get YOUR named tagged for spell checking things in github have more chance of being part of "they"
... i dont want it changed. so i wont be part of "they".

but if "they" want to write something. atleast dont try suggesting that it is the bitcoin whitepaper, but instead making it obvious that its different to the real bitcoin white paper by calling it something new... EG if the update is only upto corev0.12.. then call it corev12.. not "the bitcoin whitepaper"
then in a few months time, if core gets segwit activated..  then... (those that love rewrites) can make another whitepaper and call it segwit

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June 09, 2017, 11:43:11 PM
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I recently quoted Satoshi on /r/bitcoin and was downvoted...that place is corrupt and anti bitcoin.

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June 10, 2017, 12:01:12 AM
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I recently quoted Satoshi on /r/bitcoin and was downvoted...that place is corrupt and anti bitcoin.

because its not /r/bitcoin... its /r/core-perate coin. managed by the BS cartel (BlockStream/Barry Silbert)

the github repo they love and idolise over does not even originate from a github repo satoshi ever used. the origins before the rebrand to core in 2013 was originally from a fork Gavin started in summer 2010.

satoshi's version was still only being sourced from sourceforge right up until and after winter 2010

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June 10, 2017, 01:45:43 AM
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Sure, but you have to ask youself: is one side is SO deathly afraid of the truth that you can't even be allowed read the whitepaper?
Absolute nonsense. There is no "truth".


Hilarious... "There is no truth  Everything's just an opinion.  Reality can never be known."  This is a mind control technique called "relativism" that can be just used to justify anything.


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The whitepaper is very much outdated and describes a Bitcoin from the past.

 Nothing outdated about it.  This is a Bitfury/DCG/Blockstream cartel talking point.




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This is why someone wanted to publish an updated version

No, someone wanted to publish an 'updated' version to rewrite history.

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If you read the whitepaper, you get the general idea but actually miss out on a lot of stuff. You may even get misled about some things (e.g. no mention of ASIC miners).


 

The whitepaper isn't the codebase, nor is it the complete writing of Satoshi Nakamoto (which did include mention of ASIC miners). 

Of course there's stuff "missing", you pathetic troll. 

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June 10, 2017, 02:02:04 AM
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I recently quoted Satoshi on /r/bitcoin and was downvoted...that place is corrupt and anti bitcoin.
You were downvoted not because you quoted Satoshi but because you're BTU shill. though I doubt that was the case, provide a link when you post your nonsence. Never trust a word from Ver's puppet
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June 10, 2017, 03:36:16 AM
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next time share the original link from bitcoin.org instead of the .com one and then see if that gets removed and then lets talk about censorship about bitcoin white paper!

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf is still not changed so you have no reason not to.

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June 10, 2017, 05:11:00 AM
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next time share the original link from bitcoin.org instead of the .com one and then see if that gets removed and then lets talk about censorship about bitcoin white paper!

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf is still not changed so you have no reason not to.

Wait...that doesn't make any sense.  

You're saying linking to a site that has no plans to change the paper is WORSE than linking to a site with people who said they want to change it (but haven't yet).

Like you said, its the same paper.

You can't say bitcoin.org is authoritative by virtue of origin when its trying to change the paper.  That's a self defeating argument.

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