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October 25, 2018, 07:56:40 PM
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To be honest, yes, it used to make me angry. But then I realised that startup world (and blockchain in particular) is like that and there is nothing that can be done, because those are the rules of the game. I often stumble upon a project that fails but also there are some good ones. Instead of wasting energy on being angry I simply move to the next one and try not to make mistake. HEAT was expensive lesson, but worth it. Many people in this community are still naive and hoping for the HEAT bull run, others are still angry, but IMO best way to deal with it is simply move to the next project. That being said, if you would be doing any lawsuit you have my sword and probably some other people would join you too, but I guess you would need personal data and that would require loss of anonimity, so that should happen as further into the preparations as possible, because probably people will not be eager to share that data before they are 100% sure that lawsuit is happening.
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October 26, 2018, 10:20:40 PM
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I don't understand where the project has been stated as "failed".

It is in progress.

You want to call something failed? Talk to the many of us who have dumped BTC into projects just for devs to give us that dumb confetti.gif and disappearing with our BTC.
That's a fail, all I see here is people not diversifying and taking the necessary precautions in this type of environment.
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Memberberrry:
Well, regarding my account - I need the new one, because the original (Qiuyue201) was stolen and I am in process of recovering it. And regarding HEAT, it would be hard to prove that the goals were not met on purpose. You are suggesting something serious,  a fraud, so it would be good to have proofs. Most startups promise something and do not deliver it. To be fair, yes, there is a chance that it was pre-planned failure, they haven't intended to deliver, they had not enough skills to do this and simply wanted to drag the process as long as possible, till ICO participants get bored and move to the other projects. Yes, many projects do something like that. But there is also a chance, that they simply failed.

lemonandfriesonetwo:
When would you suggest to call a project failed? IMO there is no reason to sugercoat it. If a project promises X and launches without X and even couple of years later there is no X, then we have assumed it has failed. If Ethereum - which was promoted as smart contract platform - would launch in 2016 and still have no contracts till 2018, while being unstable, highly centralised etc. we would call it failure. I am not trying to beat the project's creators, because I understand how things work in startup business (and in crypto) and that most projects fail, but also there is no reason to pretend that all is good, because obviously it is not. If YouTube was announced as video streaming service but then over 2 years after the launch it would offer only text descriptions of the videos, it would be considered failure, wouldn't it? There are various ways to scam people. You can simply run away with BTC (and risk being chased), or you can pretend you are working on something, paying yourself the money. Not saying that latter is the case here (but many people rightfully suspect that), but many crypto project did it this way.

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4.  Transaction throughput rate initially in the 1000 tps scale on legacy hardware
Delivered as proven by the short semi public benchmark testing period
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5.  Unlimited scalability depending on node hardware: Boost rates of 10k+ tps on standard 4-core Linux server
20k+ tps has been achieved in house tests, 10k tps boost rate available on private chain co ops right now
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15.  Offline smart vouchers (fully signed transactions that can be sent to the blockchain by anyone.)
Available technically, anyone can create offline tx and print them on voucher to be bx whenever
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18.  Multicurrency crypto client enabling non-gateway direct crypto transfer
Available since several months, Heatwallet supports genuine Eth and Btc in addition to HEAT and more is coming

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19.  Built-in non-gateway (direct real crypto) p2p exchange for client supported crypto
Apart from so called atomic swaps long in progress, p2p BTC/Eth trade is factually available without need to leave Heatwallet
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20.  Custom tokens, private tokens, colored accounts and white label software cloning readiness
Custom tokens and whitelabel software implemented and out, private tokens and colored accounts importable from public FIMK sources
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21.  Multisig for FIAT currency tokens
Implemented for a partner
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22.  Crowdfunding / IPO capabilities heavily emphasized
One of the most cost effective and technically flexible crowdfunding opportunities available for any entity on the public HEAT DEX for 18+ months
Major work (hundreds of hours) put into tokenized shares business is beginning to become visible
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26.  Major licensed corporate partners in crowdfunding, fiat currency token transfer and BTC exchange areas
Both licensed partners still intact on board and close to launch.

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27.  ICO tokens reward stock options for startup company IPO shares at lower price later in 2016
Major commitment for the HEAT team to tie token value closely into the performance of the company has been progressing all the time and despite the difficult waters to navigate we're getting there. Note the nonexistence of similar arrangements until a few preliminary public projects seen arise only very recently.

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Did the project fail? Yes.  
Untrue. HEAT is well usable system within its last 25% stint towards its full technical maturity and is currently expanding fast on areas of business development, partnership signups and staff / contractor acquisition. Crudely half of our ICO attractions are taking a bit longer than expected - about 1.5 to 2 years, some even 3, which is fairly standard or quicker than average for projects in this space, or should I say the 5% of them that deliver anything.

The hate speech trolls on this forum don't simply have a clue of anything thus most conclusions, accusations and especially figures are grossly distorted to suit the purpose of inciting disorder. For now we're still fine with that as our focus is where the money is and not where the crap flies high. If someone is seriously interested in info about HEAT and Heat Ledger operations, you can contact me through PM and we'll answer when we can. Thanks

         
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October 29, 2018, 11:19:13 AM
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Censorship continues:
This time:

So whats your stance on the presumably 20 Million Dollars? Whats supposed to happen with them?
Remember - at ICO time the investments they got were a mere 1.2 or 1.3 Million

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Censorship continues:
Your lunatic side persona is not allowed to post false information here, the same applies to you

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So whats your stance on the presumably 20 Million Dollars? Whats supposed to happen with them?
Like a proper troll, you're pulling that figure from your presumed bottom! There's nothing like 20 Million Dollars currently and never has been except for a momentary virtual peak at the height of the crypto bubble. The company's balance sheet of a few million USD worth of liquid funds are used to fund company operations in the long term and to potentially bring value for the HEAT coin in the ways and time we consider most effective related to the company's product line and market sentiment.
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ICO time the investments they got were a mere 1.2 or 1.3 Million
Wrong, about 1M USD worth of crypto of which >25% illiquid FIMK

Any posts specifically containing misleading figures will be immediately deleted from this thread.

         
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October 29, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
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I was so happy that finally theres someone who doesn't portray me as a paid fudder, a multiple personality disorder type or a borderline psycho anymore Smiley

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November 01, 2018, 03:30:03 PM
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Anyone have experience with this automatic pool?

https://heat.community/pool/

The pool payed automatic when i reached 100 Heat or payed all 12 hours at my lease address?

Also hae the pool a detailed view for the mining?

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November 08, 2018, 12:44:09 PM
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HEAT announces crypto fiat wallet partnership with Monetum.



https://heatledger.com/media/Heatledger_Paytah1.pdf

         
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November 09, 2018, 09:35:12 AM
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What does this mean in simple terms. HEAT exchange will be used for what? THe project has its own token so why would HEAT token profit of that?
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November 09, 2018, 03:01:45 PM
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The project has its own token so why would HEAT token profit of that?
1. The ICO is intended to accept HEAT.
2. Heat Ledger Ltd is making profit from this deal, which may reflect to the valuation of Heat Ledger Ltd shares and their possible dividends. Heat Ledger Ltd security tokens, directly or indirectly connected to HEAT coin, are in the works.
3. The partnership contains arrangements that should result into attractive features on Heat wallet, potentially increasing its usage.

         
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HEAT Wallet 2.8.1

https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatwallet/releases/tag/v2.8.1

Optional but recommended update.

This is the full desktop wallet version with heatledger server 2.5.3 included.

To install and run the optional included heatledger server you need Java JDK 1.8 or higher installed. Note that JDK is different from standard java distributions.

To install JDK on Ubuntu use sudo apt-get install default-jdk package. For other platforms please look here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html

For configuration settings see the conf/heat-default.properties files in the installation folder.

# Client changes from previous release:

- Fixed erroneous failover host switching in desktop Heatwallet application.
- Minor UI fixes
- Added wallet support for FIMK cryptocurrency
- Improved BTC wallet data display behavior
- Added client failover settings file placed at the application home dir in file failover-config.json
- Fixed icon to copy secret phrase to the clipboard at wallet creation
- Showing version of embedded HEAT server in About dialogue

# testnet

In order to connect to the heat testnet (this is used by developers mostly) add these properties to `conf/heat.properties` file.

heat.wellKnownPeersTest=176.9.102.212;95.85.4.150;146.185.154.55
heat.isTestnet=true

# Recent Server updates:

The heatledger 2.5.3 Server is an optional update with improvements and some bug fixes.

- Fixed errors on public name duplication in database at blockchain scanning. This improves blockchain scanning speed.
- Server initialization is reorganized for embedded usage
- Implemented more robust cross-OS server shutdown for desktop Heatwallet application using file signaling. Decreases or eliminates replicator db errors that contributed to long startup time in previous version
- Removed extra console output about balances hash equality on blockchain scan and download.

         
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December 10, 2018, 01:16:53 PM
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So was anything from this roadmap actually finished? No microservices, no EUR token, no benchmarking... Just banning people on discord that actually tell you how it is.


Public HEAT roadmap from 10th of June 2017 is below. Discussion is welcome!


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December 11, 2018, 11:40:53 AM
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Here's the status for each of the items on the 2017 roadmap:

HEAT Mainnet launch - complete
HEAT Wallet, A2AE, messaging - complete
POS forging - complete
ABN Amro blockchain pilot - complete
New wallet UI - complete
Balance leasing - complete
Microservices with samples - released on testnet at https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heat-microservice partially replaced by heat-sdk at https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heat-sdk
email / messaging - incomplete
Heat Ledger Ltd options issuance and trading - incomplete, ongoing
More certified assets on the HEAT gateway - complete ongoing
Smart vouchers - incomplete
Licensed EUR on Heatwallet - incomplete, ongoing
Mobile wallet app - complete
Offchain messaging - incomplete but testable Webrtc protocol supported on https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases/tag/v2.5.2
Heat Ledger Ltd public equity sale - incomplete, being arranged
Multisig features - complete on private chain, incomplete on public HEAT
BTC client on HEAT Wallet - complete
FIMK client on HEAT Wallet - complete
Crowdfunding management - complete, ongoing http://eto-ico-partner.heatledger.com/
EUR merchant services - incomplete, ongoing
POP forging - incomplete, equal node lottery live through community powered middleware
Blockchain slicing - incomplete
P2P Network scalability rewrite completed - incomplete, ongoing and partially live
ETH client on HEAT Wallet - complete
Further microservice plugins - incomplete, ongoing (game integration, trading bots)
Self-sustaining HEAT blockchain economy - incomplete, ongoing
Acquisition / Merger of HL shares - incomplete

Completed by projected time: approx. 50%:
Dropped: 0%

         
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December 11, 2018, 03:38:16 PM
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Glad to see that I was banned from your discord for telling the truth. Sheesh

Here's the status for each of the items on the 2017 roadmap:

HEAT Mainnet launch - complete
HEAT Wallet, A2AE, messaging - complete
POS forging - complete
ABN Amro blockchain pilot - complete
New wallet UI - complete
Balance leasing - complete
Microservices with samples - released on testnet at https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heat-microservice partially replaced by heat-sdk at https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heat-sdk
email / messaging - incomplete
Heat Ledger Ltd options issuance and trading - incomplete, ongoing
More certified assets on the HEAT gateway - complete ongoing
Smart vouchers - incomplete
Licensed EUR on Heatwallet - incomplete, ongoing
Mobile wallet app - complete
Offchain messaging - incomplete but testable Webrtc protocol supported on https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases/tag/v2.5.2
Heat Ledger Ltd public equity sale - incomplete, being arranged
Multisig features - complete on private chain, incomplete on public HEAT
BTC client on HEAT Wallet - complete
FIMK client on HEAT Wallet - complete
Crowdfunding management - complete, ongoing http://eto-ico-partner.heatledger.com/
EUR merchant services - incomplete, ongoing
POP forging - incomplete, equal node lottery live through community powered middleware
Blockchain slicing - incomplete
P2P Network scalability rewrite completed - incomplete, ongoing and partially live
ETH client on HEAT Wallet - complete
Further microservice plugins - incomplete, ongoing (game integration, trading bots)
Self-sustaining HEAT blockchain economy - incomplete, ongoing
Acquisition / Merger of HL shares - incomplete

Completed by projected time: approx. 50%:
Dropped: 0%
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December 11, 2018, 10:21:52 PM
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That's some amount of work being done on HEAT.

Coding is not a fast food restaurant. 3 minute order-to-eating meals don't exist
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December 13, 2018, 04:48:54 AM
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xD Oh boy what a success xD  Roll Eyes  Grin  Shocked  Wink
If only there was somebody who would have told you...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FhO09jMFc&list=PL1U7gaKMu2EtxtnsTeWV80CLBYhHDF2KP&index=3

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December 13, 2018, 02:49:57 PM
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xD Oh boy what a success xD  Roll Eyes  Grin  Shocked  Wink
If only there was somebody who would have told you...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FhO09jMFc&list=PL1U7gaKMu2EtxtnsTeWV80CLBYhHDF2KP&index=3

And there it is, a junkie with mental issues.

Let me know how that meth/ecstasy combination work for your brain in a few years  Wink Cheesy Huh Roll Eyes
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December 13, 2018, 10:35:51 PM
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xD Oh boy what a success xD  Roll Eyes  Grin  Shocked  Wink
If only there was somebody who would have told you...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FhO09jMFc&list=PL1U7gaKMu2EtxtnsTeWV80CLBYhHDF2KP&index=3

And there it is, a junkie with mental issues.

Let me know how that meth/ecstasy combination work for your brain in a few years  Wink Cheesy Huh Roll Eyes
Mayor mad bagholder spotted  Grin
Nah since heat didn't make you rich you obviously don't know that the preferred drugs of a rich cryptotrader like myself are coke, expensive liquor and high class escort hookers  Wink
Wild meth/ecstasy combinations are more the poor man's (aka heat investor) pick of choice  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Oh and happy b day my brony!  Grin

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December 16, 2018, 05:02:11 PM
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Looking at what you're marking as complete here I can't wait to see your 2018 list. Will you do this in December 2019?
I don't believe the mobile app should be marked as complete for example since there's only an Android Beta version...

As for "More certified assets on the HEAT gateway - complete ongoing". It's neither ongoing nor complete. You have not integrated any certified asset and you don't seem to be in the process of doing it at all!

And your 2 stats in the end:

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Completed by projected time: approx. 50%:
Dropped: 0%

How the hell do you come up with this number?

It seems like at the moment you're just preparing an ICO so that you can start all over again with Monetum since you said the Monetum ICO (sorry meant ETO  Tongue) will accept HEAT.



Here's the status for each of the items on the 2017 roadmap:

HEAT Mainnet launch - complete
HEAT Wallet, A2AE, messaging - complete
POS forging - complete
ABN Amro blockchain pilot - complete
New wallet UI - complete
Balance leasing - complete
Microservices with samples - released on testnet at https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heat-microservice partially replaced by heat-sdk at https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heat-sdk
email / messaging - incomplete
Heat Ledger Ltd options issuance and trading - incomplete, ongoing
More certified assets on the HEAT gateway - complete ongoing
Smart vouchers - incomplete
Licensed EUR on Heatwallet - incomplete, ongoing
Mobile wallet app - complete
Offchain messaging - incomplete but testable Webrtc protocol supported on https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases/tag/v2.5.2
Heat Ledger Ltd public equity sale - incomplete, being arranged
Multisig features - complete on private chain, incomplete on public HEAT
BTC client on HEAT Wallet - complete
FIMK client on HEAT Wallet - complete
Crowdfunding management - complete, ongoing http://eto-ico-partner.heatledger.com/
EUR merchant services - incomplete, ongoing
POP forging - incomplete, equal node lottery live through community powered middleware
Blockchain slicing - incomplete
P2P Network scalability rewrite completed - incomplete, ongoing and partially live
ETH client on HEAT Wallet - complete
Further microservice plugins - incomplete, ongoing (game integration, trading bots)
Self-sustaining HEAT blockchain economy - incomplete, ongoing
Acquisition / Merger of HL shares - incomplete

Completed by projected time: approx. 50%:
Dropped: 0%
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