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August 24, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
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Invest in Apple, and oil companies.

...and get 2x-3x profits max instead of 100x profits in cryptocurrencies. SatoNatomato is such a genius.  Cheesy
Agreed invest in real cryptocurrencies such as Byteball if you want 100x profits.

If you want to profit on retarded sheep 2x then IOTA is a good deal, it has already had its 150x, but those profits were reserved for few people in the ICO 2 years ago.

Confirmed again, SatoNatomato is a Byteball holder (remember, Byteball, this cheap copy of IOTA), and wants to promote his coin.
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August 24, 2017, 12:02:36 PM
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Invest in Apple, and oil companies.

...and get 2x-3x profits max instead of 100x profits in cryptocurrencies. SatoNatomato is such a genius.  Cheesy
Agreed invest in real cryptocurrencies such as Byteball if you want 100x profits.

If you want to profit on retarded sheep 2x then IOTA is a good deal, it has already had its 150x, but those profits were reserved for few people in the ICO 2 years ago.

Confirmed again, SatoNatomato is a Byteball holder (remember, Byteball, this cheap copy of IOTA), and wants to promote his coin.
It is not a secret, I came to this forum to pick an distributed ledger for my employer in the IoT sector, and made it known I picked Byteball and of course invested in it personally and manage the employers multi-sig wallet as well.

Ive also written detailed answers many times, why I did not select IOTA as an IoT coin - its beyond retarded for that purpose! Proof-of-Work on an IoT. Yeah right, I have a bridge to sell you. Of course would a Java programmer, CfB, make such an oxymoronic mistake when making an "IoT coin".

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August 24, 2017, 12:30:24 PM
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Agreed invest in real cryptocurrencies such as Byteball if you want 100x profits.

You expect 100x profits from Byteball? Any insider info? Because right now the community consensus is that Byteball price will plummet once all coins are given away.
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August 24, 2017, 12:35:30 PM
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Agreed invest in real cryptocurrencies such as Byteball if you want 100x profits.

You expect 100x profits from Byteball? Any insider info? Because right now the community consensus is that Byteball price will plummet once all coins are given away.

Can you please also answere to that?: "Ive also written detailed answers many times, why I did not select IOTA as an IoT coin - its beyond retarded for that purpose! Proof-of-Work on an IoT. Yeah right, I have a bridge to sell you. Of course would a Java programmer, CfB, make such an oxymoronic mistake when making an "IoT coin"."



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August 24, 2017, 12:38:32 PM
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Can you please also answere to that?: "Ive also written detailed answers many times, why I did not select IOTA as an IoT coin - its beyond retarded for that purpose! Proof-of-Work on an IoT. Yeah right, I have a bridge to sell you. Of course would a Java programmer, CfB, make such an oxymoronic mistake when making an "IoT coin"."

SatoNatomato was caught numerous times on blatant lies. He invested into Byteball which performs pretty bad price-wise so he spreads lies about IOTA because Byteball aims to compete with IOTA in the future. No idea what to answer to nonsensical claims.
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August 24, 2017, 12:56:22 PM
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Can you please also answere to that?: "Ive also written detailed answers many times, why I did not select IOTA as an IoT coin - its beyond retarded for that purpose! Proof-of-Work on an IoT. Yeah right, I have a bridge to sell you. Of course would a Java programmer, CfB, make such an oxymoronic mistake when making an "IoT coin"."

SatoNatomato was caught numerous times on blatant lies. He invested into Byteball which performs pretty bad price-wise so he spreads lies about IOTA because Byteball aims to compete with IOTA in the future. No idea what to answer to nonsensical claims.

I'm a total tech noob so it's maybe stupid but I was just also wondering about the proof-of-work thing as I recognized that my pc really needs to do a lot of work with the iota wallet so how does that work for every machine?
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August 24, 2017, 01:24:26 PM
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I'm a total tech noob so it's maybe stupid but I was just also wondering about the proof-of-work thing as I recognized that my pc really needs to do a lot of work with the iota wallet so how does that work for every machine?

Current proof-of-work is set to very high difficulty to prevent spam attack, for IoT-friendly variant of PoW check "Network-bound" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-work_system#Variants.
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August 24, 2017, 01:54:28 PM
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I'm a total tech noob so it's maybe stupid but I was just also wondering about the proof-of-work thing as I recognized that my pc really needs to do a lot of work with the iota wallet so how does that work for every machine?

Current proof-of-work is set to very high difficulty to prevent spam attack, for IoT-friendly variant of PoW check "Network-bound" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-work_system#Variants.

Ah that's good to know, thanks!
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August 24, 2017, 02:00:24 PM
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Agreed invest in real cryptocurrencies such as Byteball if you want 100x profits.

Hmm... the Byteball exchange rates have fallen by more than 80% during the last two months. It is ironic to see the exchange rates of real cryptos like Byteball going down, and at the same time that of pump-and-dump alts such as IOTA going up.
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August 24, 2017, 02:16:39 PM
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Hmm... the Byteball exchange rates have fallen by more than 80% during the last two months. It is ironic to see the exchange rates of real cryptos like Byteball going down, and at the same time that of pump-and-dump alts such as IOTA going up.

Don't worry about Byteball, you earn on price difference, not on absolute value.  Grin
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August 24, 2017, 07:16:36 PM
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I'm a total tech noob so it's maybe stupid but I was just also wondering about the proof-of-work thing as I recognized that my pc really needs to do a lot of work with the iota wallet so how does that work for every machine?

Current proof-of-work is set to very high difficulty to prevent spam attack, for IoT-friendly variant of PoW check "Network-bound" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-work_system#Variants.
Spam attacks only help iota dont they now? The more spam the faster it goes you said.

Please refer where in the whitepaper network bound PoW is described or link to source code. Maybe its not another of your fuckups like hashing function Curl which had to be replaced by sha3. Kthxbai.

Disregard the fact when you lower PoW to miniscule levels, it opens for attack from GPUs or better, even if its network bound. Cheesy

So retarded, PoW for security and hidden fees, yet low enough to work on IoT, even if with custom chip/asic/coprocessor it just means a single PC CPU or GPU can outcompete thousanda or millions of IoT devices. Power disparity.

No wonder Iota only works with a centralized Coordinator node.

Byteball does not have PoW at all.
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August 24, 2017, 07:27:53 PM
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Spam attacks only help iota dont they now? The more spam the faster it goes you said.

We talk about different spam attacks.



Please refer where in the whitepaper network bound PoW is described or link to source code.

Why should I bother to explain it to you?


Maybe its not another of your fuckups like hashing function Curl which had to be replaced by sha3. Kthxbai.

Can't recall fuckups related to Curl, do you mean planned migration to Kerl before deploying final Curl? You probably do, you should improve your reading skills.


Disregard the fact when you lower PoW to miniscule levels, it opens for attack from GPUs or better, even if its network bound. Cheesy

Not sure if you lie or you just don't understand what you are talking about. Probably the both.  Cheesy



So retarded, PoW for security and hidden fees, yet low enough to work on IoT, even if with custom chip/asic/coprocessor it just means a single PC CPU or GPU can outcompete thousanda or millions of IoT devices. Power disparity.

Not sure if you lie or you just don't understand what you are talking about. Probably the both.  Cheesy


No wonder Iota only works with a centralized Coordinator node.

Centralized? Hehe, your words can't change the real state of things, you live in a world where magery doesn't exist.  Cheesy


Byteball does not have PoW at all.

This should be changed ASAP. Once someone figures out how I halted Byteball mainnet confirmations for several hours all Byteball holders will see purchase power of their GBs approaching zero.
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August 24, 2017, 08:27:29 PM
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As usual, no real responses to issues, instead only redirection with weak FUD against Byteball. Yawn.

As you said the value of IOTA wihout the Coordinator is zero. Show the Coordinator source code, put it up for testing, or are you just a weak scammer?
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August 24, 2017, 08:46:35 PM
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As usual, no real responses to issues, instead only redirection with weak FUD against Byteball. Yawn.

FUD? Hehe, how much are you willing to bet against me? In BTC, of course. I'll win if I halt confirmations again.

Put the money where your mouth is.  Grin
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August 25, 2017, 04:14:13 AM
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They are not the same.

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Can you please also answere to that?: "Ive also written detailed answers many times, why I did not select IOTA as an IoT coin - its beyond retarded for that purpose! Proof-of-Work on an IoT. Yeah right, I have a bridge to sell you. Of course would a Java programmer, CfB, make such an oxymoronic mistake when making an "IoT coin"."

SatoNatomato was caught numerous times on blatant lies. He invested into Byteball which performs pretty bad price-wise so he spreads lies about IOTA because Byteball aims to compete with IOTA in the future. No idea what to answer to nonsensical claims.

But wait

Byteball already competes with iota

Byteball is not thought of as an insider ico manipulated scheme by many (although is not a great distribution either)

Byteball vs IOTA tech wise = we will see.

So far Byteball  is way ahead because a poor start is never going to go away and many many persons will ensure it is never forgotten.

More DAG projects will come in the 100's IF it is ever proven to offer advantages without extra issues over what we have.

This is not a byteball thread anyway the fact you feel threatened by that project is not a good enough reason to keep mentioning on this thread.
Just hurry up finishing with the dumping of your iota and take the training wheels off so we can see what happens to it.

You're always accusing persons of lying. You accused me several times but when challenged never once produced an example of these lies. Instead you changed it from me saying i had no idea about iota at all to not knowing the iota crowdsale and started and finished already these are not the same thing and therefore is not a lie.

The fact you are so worried about byteball is telling.

A shady start to a project is a nightmare for that project that never ends. Too many people understand this project was deliberately more stealth than other more fair icos before and after and during that time. The facts you guys said you did not want to waste cents/iotas on advertising on this board to gain millions of more dollars development funding is ludicrous and a demonstration of the intentions from the start.




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August 25, 2017, 12:00:15 PM
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This is way overvalued. Be very careful in speculating this coin.
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August 25, 2017, 12:02:14 PM
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Same person creating new accounts blaming IOTA in favor of Byteshit ^
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August 25, 2017, 12:10:50 PM
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Another newb account with less than 10 posts blaming IOTA, same idIOT
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August 25, 2017, 12:34:09 PM
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I'm a total tech noob so it's maybe stupid but I was just also wondering about the proof-of-work thing as I recognized that my pc really needs to do a lot of work with the iota wallet so how does that work for every machine?

Current proof-of-work is set to very high difficulty to prevent spam attack, for IoT-friendly variant of PoW check "Network-bound" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-work_system#Variants.
Spam attacks only help iota dont they now? The more spam the faster it goes you said.

Please refer where in the whitepaper network bound PoW is described or link to source code. Maybe its not another of your fuckups like hashing function Curl which had to be replaced by sha3. Kthxbai.

Disregard the fact when you lower PoW to miniscule levels, it opens for attack from GPUs or better, even if its network bound. Cheesy

So retarded, PoW for security and hidden fees, yet low enough to work on IoT, even if with custom chip/asic/coprocessor it just means a single PC CPU or GPU can outcompete thousanda or millions of IoT devices. Power disparity.

No wonder Iota only works with a centralized Coordinator node.

Byteball does not have PoW at all.
still no better response to this than "but byteball is shit etc"
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