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June 17, 2017, 07:38:42 AM
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Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.msg19607109#msg19607109


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June 19, 2017, 06:53:00 AM
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For what makes a new thread? Undecided
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June 19, 2017, 05:34:54 PM
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beware of threatening PM's from Polybius shill accounts:

I seem to be getting threatening PM's from Polybius shill accounts:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

New Topic!

I will pay 150BTC for the real name and address of bitcointalk.org user IconFirm. Escrow welcome.

Let the hunt begin!  Cool


I will find you!  Kiss

I will willingly pass my personal details to you for 150BTC using a reputable escrow.

Thanks!

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June 26, 2017, 05:28:45 PM
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I found a very interesting recording of a telephone interview with Daniel Haudenschild, who is described as a Partner to Ernst & Young on their website (https://webforms.ey.com/ch/en/industries/financial-services/ey-contact-implementing-new-regulatory-requirements), on Soundcloud dated 6th June 2017, just after this Hashcoins/Polybius ICO scam started. The interviwee is a long time Bitcoin adopter & is very knowledgable in the field - this comes across very clearly in the interview with the questions he asks, which Daniel Haudenschild fails on all fronts to give an answer to.  Have a listen (ignore the first 30 seconds of silly music!):

https://soundcloud.com/junsethsworld/daniel-haudenschild-of-ernst-young-discusses-polybius-ico-6617-1151

There are several points of interest in the interview, here are a few that are relevent to this scam accusation:

1) 04.35 - Hashcoins confirmed as the people behind Polybius.
2) 06.30 - They don't hold a banking license.
3) 07.40 - Daniel Haudenschild admits that even he doesn't know who owns Polybius, which is not only strange coming from an "advisor" who works for Ernst & Young, but is also not disclosed in the white paper.
4) 09.10 - Ernst & Young did NOT endorse Polybius in any way & actions are underway to remove any Ernst & Young connection with Polybius. (*more on this below)
5) 09.30 - Hashcoins are a cludmining brand who sold miners that didn't exist.
6) 09.50 - Emercoin confirmed as partners & are described as a "non-sense project" SmileySmiley (confirming the connection between Polybius, Hashcoins & Emercoin - which Emercoin have tried to deny on multiple occasions, despite me proving to them otherwise)

After the above & for the rest of the interview, Daniel Haudenschild seems unable to properly answer a single question, is often confused into silence & comes across as being pretty embarrassed about the whole thing. He must feel pretty stupid allowing not just himself, but the whole Ernst & Young brand name to be dragged into this whole scammy affair & I wouldn't be at all surprised if he loses his job at Ernst & Young for doing so.....

Wait, what's this?.......**MASSIVE UPDATE**

Daniel Haudenschild lost his job at Ernst & Young......SmileySmiley

FT published a transcript of the above interview:

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2017/06/07/2189826/building-blockchain-banks-with-icos/    (regtoread)

Updated at the bottom with:

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Update (June 8th, 18:43 London time): EY have got in touch to say that “At publication of this story, Daniel Haudenschild is no longer with EY and his comments concerning EY’s Blockchain strategy are incorrect.”

*Ernst & Young have since instructed Polybius to remove all reference of Ernst & Young from the Polybius website & advertising. Polybius removed the Ernst & Young profiles from their website but continue to use it for advertising on various forums, websites & so called "news" outlets on the web:

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/05/15/swiss-ey-officially-joins-polybius-cryptobank-advisors-ico-follow/

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/04/25/blockchain-startup-polybius-bank-setup-switzerland-ernst-young-agrees-advise/

If Ernst & Young are prepared to fire anyone who associates their brand with Polybius, I'm pretty sure they will also go after Hashcoins/Polybius too. I hope they do, it will save many people getting ripped of by Hashcoins again, but you can do your bit too by contacting Ernst & Young using the below link (Fraud Investigation):

https://webforms.ey.com/uk/en/services/assurance/fraud-investigation---dispute-services

Let's be honest here, if Polybius are prepared to lie about their association with Ernst & Young then brag about it on the web - what else are they lying about? Add to this the fact that Hashcoins (older crypto users will know about them) are behind all of this & you've got a scam the size of Mt Etna waiting to explode.

Another point to mention here is the OP of the Polybius thread, nixoid, aka: Andrey Zamovskiy, founder of Ambisafe. nixoid has posted many ICO posts lately & I've read reports on most of them being a similar type scam as Polybius. I'm not sure if Ambisafe are connected to Hashcoins/Polybius - but the fact that Ambisafe are promoting them here & on their website is cause enough for concern:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848751.msg19734730#msg19734730

All these scam ICO's are the scurge of crypto. For every legit one, there are 100 scam ones. The sooner we cleanse crypto of them, the better crypto will be for it.

I'm sure I'll get more BS neg-reps from the multitude of Polybius shill accounts (they love posting about it on their thread:)), but I really don't care tbh. I believe that if I can stop one person getting scammed then it's worth it - & the intelligent forum users here will see straight through the false trust anyway.

OK. Bash away Smiley

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June 29, 2017, 02:16:26 PM
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Eugene Shumilov - Founder and CEO of Emercoin - has been busy promoting Polybius & Hashcoins on medium lately:

https://medium.com/@emer.tech/polybius-bank-the-biggest-story-of-the-year-in-the-cryptocurrency-realm-634c9b1db57

..I wonder why....Smiley

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July 02, 2017, 07:45:20 PM
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No comment from Oleg:

**Oleg online**

How about you Oleg - care to answer?

Emercoin and Polybius are NOT the same organization.

You can assure everyone that this is the case by removing the Hashcoins scammers link from your website. After all, linking to & promoting proven scammers like them on your website is bound to create suspicion - don't you think?

No comment?

Well, seeing as Eugene Shumilov - Founder and CEO of Emercoin - has been so busy promoting Polybius & Hashcoins on medium lately:

https://medium.com/@emer.tech/polybius-bank-the-biggest-story-of-the-year-in-the-cryptocurrency-realm-634c9b1db57

..I can't say I'm surprised you can't (or won't) answer.

So it's true that Emercoin & Hashcoins/Polybius are the same team then.

Thanks for clarifying.

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Amazing. Not a single answer from a single member of the Emercoin/Hashcoins/Polybius team either here or on medium, but they have no problem posting to advertise themselves.....

Guilty.

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September 03, 2017, 10:12:11 AM
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Oh, really just warning?


kilo17 = lockept93 = blurreyed = iconfirm - attackers and scammers, which want to get cheap tokens of legit and strong company


Just look how this guys posted at the same time on EMERCOIN thread



look also on trust rating of iconfirm - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=841288

blurreyed  - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=885996

Trusted feedback

This user operates at least 28 accounts and is permabanned from the site: IYFTech = PatMan = cathoderay = deleterase = .....Really? = lobogil = megahash = PatManCan = John1965 = John1900 = YourBlondFriend = Rustiga = FraudSquad = smokem = patSNL = meono = blarneystone = p3yot33at3r = biefstuk = k9control = madk9control = useragent = dogiecontrol = vatfraudster = novatforyou = youliealot = novatforyou = IconFirm = blurryeyed. See the referenced thread for more details.


Also look
lockept93 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=519483


Iconfirm start spamming Emercoin thread at page 67 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.1320 and finished at page 84


Look please at 80 page of Emercoin thread - lockept93 and Iconfirm spam it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.1580,

then next page - 81 blurreyed joins them - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.1600

Look scam warning thread the same guys everywhere - lockept93 + Iconfirm -https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.100, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.160 and others....

lockept93 + Iconfirm + blurryeyed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.140, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.180

On this scam thread also all together - lockept93 + Iconfirm + blurryeyed -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971023.0


lockept93 so active, did you forgot that created 4 threads same day? Are you on drugs?
 

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971023.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970884.0
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.0
4. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952266.0


Well, do you still think they are here to warn you?
No, it was an attack to buy tokens cheaper.

EMERCOIN NEVER EVER ASKED T INVEST IN THEM, THEY NEVER DO AN ICO, SO HOW THEY CAN SCAM THEIR INVESTORS? THERE MORE THAN 5-8 ICO COMING EVERY DAY, SO YOU THINK THEY SO LEGIT? WHY NOT WARN ABOUT THAT?Huh

YES, BECAUSE YOU KNOW HUGE POTENTIAL OF EMERCOIN.
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September 03, 2017, 10:31:47 PM
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Well, do you still think they are here to warn you?


Yes.


No, it was an attack to buy tokens cheaper.


I don't & never will buy anything from known scammers or from any group who promotes scam organisations on their website.

Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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November 08, 2017, 01:36:12 PM
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**Update**

Moderators have deleted the entire Polybius ICO thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2372420.0

Nice. Unfortunately though, they have already got away with the funds.

Another Hashcoins scam completed  Angry

Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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October 08, 2018, 03:52:10 PM
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Still the lies keep coming.....

Our offices are located in the United States, Spain, Germany, Ukraine and Russia.

Where exactly?

Sorry, due to security rules we can't tell such information.

You are required by law to provide your company office business addresses. If they exist of course.

We are still working on creating a foundation for structuring the project legally wise.

Doesn't matter. If you have business offices in the places you say you do, then you are required by law to provide those company office business addresses.

We are not obliged to provide this information.

BS  Roll Eyes

I've added this latest BS to the Emercoin/Hashcoins scam thread here for the record:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.msg46655381#msg46655381

Also, Emercoin are still proudly advertising Hashcoins on their ANN page, even though the entire Hashcoins thread was moved to the scam section many months ago:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.880

Why? - Because they are the same people.

Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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October 09, 2018, 01:13:09 PM
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Also, from their other scam thread:

Thank you very much for warning. There are too much ICOs that are actually scam right now. People should make research before investing in any coin, but unfortunately nobody does so. Everybody is just buying alts without any investigation.
**snip the cr@p**

@Emercoin Official:

Instead of explaining yourself you choose to spout more BS marketing drivel for your scams.

Guilty as proven.

I have a feeling you're Sergei Potapenko - am I right?

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October 10, 2018, 07:54:13 PM
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More lies from Emercoin:

Do you have any update on the unprocessed payouts from the Emercoin Idea contest of 2016? There are several participants still waiting for the undistributed EMC of the contest.
I personally have as well contributed to the contest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1415449.msg14419373#msg14419373) and have been waiting as well. I reached out several times to the Emercoin team but never got any response which shines quite a bad light on Emercoin as a whole. They do not seem to care much about their community as well as not realizing their promises.

We're looking into this issue and will update you ASAP.

Thank you.

Any update?

Any update?

You won't get an answer because they've scammed you & everyone else who is waiting for their coins. I suggest you open a scam accusation against them & post about it in their other scam threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971023.msg46685310#msg46685310

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.msg46655381#msg46655381

I will post this latest lie in those threads too, as well as every other lie they post until they answer the questions asked by (potential) investors:

We are the support team of Emercoin and we will gladly answer all your questions here,

Another lie.

Our offices are located in the United States, Spain, Germany, Ukraine and Russia.

Prove it. Tell us where your fairy tale business office addresses are then.

Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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Update:


However, I followed the link. How do you know it's theirs? Created by some emerfund and Fixx which I never heard of.

Fixx is the OP of this thread & part of the Emercoin scammer team. Read the threads.


Don't you think it could be just scammers who wanted to use Emercoin? Looks suspicious from the very beginning.

No. They have already admitted it was them. You're right to be suspicious however - everything these guys do is suspicious, like working for & promoting scams like Hashcoins & Polybius for example, or telling users here that they have business offices in United States, Spain, Germany, Ukraine and Russia when they clearly don't. Read the threads.

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When these scammers pay everyone who participated in their fake competition, divulge all their fairy tale business addresses that they gleefully lie about & come clean about their involvement with & why they promote the Hashcoins & Polybius scammers I will remove my negative feedback.

Since posting this the emercoin thread has been silent.....

Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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