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July 24, 2017, 11:51:10 PM
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Graphics for roulette look fantastic. Probably one of the best I have seen so far.

My translation bounty is not updated on my account, is it just me or will the stakes be updated on a later date?

Hi
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To be honest I'm confused why people are making a big deal about bounties.
No matter what your stakes or score shows now, a full audit will be done at the end of the ICO which is in Septmeber.

We have things that are automated and me and support do update things semi-often but it just doesn't seem like people should care too much about it in my oppinon.

If you are doing what is lised in the bounty rules you'll be fine.

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hello BetKing.io bounty campaign manager. my stakes for tweets are still not showing and the icon that says connect to twitter has a red error sign. please update my bounty account. thanks

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July 25, 2017, 12:09:07 AM
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The projects will be the king of gambling. Incomprehensible value late I hope.
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July 25, 2017, 12:29:06 AM
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There is also trueflip and bitdice crowd sales and let's see which one will be the winning one. These coin gambling projects will get share from the market for sure. It's a booming sector.
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July 25, 2017, 03:24:45 AM
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There is also trueflip and bitdice crowd sales and let's see which one will be the winning one. These coin gambling projects will get share from the market for sure. It's a booming sector.

Trueflip just a newcomer but they allready raised BTC1765
Betking Pre-ICO raised BTC465 , its easy to reach CAP for betking when the ICO start, because betking One of the biggest ever.
Lets wait and see mate hehe.
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July 25, 2017, 03:45:36 AM
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Will my Blog Articles post on July 21 be accepted?

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July 25, 2017, 05:39:40 AM
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Then it seems that you have quite a racket going.  

Betking will be taking the cumulative investors' profit to buyback tokens, reducing the bankroll, then Betking alone will be accumulating profits on those tokens to infinity with no benefit to remaining token holders.  

Eventually, Betking will have purchased the majority of tokens back with investors' money (Bankroll profits) - in essence diluting remaining token holders since Betking retains the re-purchased tokens and earns all future profits on those tokens.  Sounds like it's good to be Dean / Betking.

If I'm misunderstanding, please let me know.

I'm buying tokens back with my own profit, the 30 million tokens I keep from the ICO.
There's not going to be any significant reduction in bankroll, max 10% every 3 months.
Yes I will then be making a profit on the tokens I hold, the ones not being sold plus the ones I buy back, that's pretty normal and how most businesses work.

Remaining token holders have the benefit that their tokens have much more value the longer they hold them. They can choose to never sell them back to me for many years or if the site was to be sold.

There's no dilution going on at all.




Thank you for this answer.

Please hear me out on this, and hopefully this explains what I mean and hopefully a better situation for all.  

Hypothetical:

Money Raised:  $10,000,000
70% Bankroll:  $ 7,000,000
30% BetKing:   $ 3,000,000

Price per token:  $10,000,000/70,000,000  = $0.14
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This has been bugging me since I raised a similar question. Dean answered here.

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Remaining Investor tokens outstanding:  71,000,000 - 7,100,000 = 63,900,000

Value of token after buyback as proposed:  $6,470,500 / 100,000,000 = 0.064705
(this is where the dilution comes into play, although not a typical dilution as in the stock market) - Q2 would need to overcome the deficit just to break even.
Go back one step: right after the ICO, the price in your example was $0.14 per Token. Now use the same math you use above: $7 million bankroll divided by 100 million Tokens puts the value at $0.07, while you paid $0.14.
The difference is of course the fact that there's more than the bankroll to give value to BetKing, just like "normal" company shares are worth more than just the cash owned by the company.

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July 25, 2017, 06:31:13 AM
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Is only me or you got confused with the spreadsheet? The twitter spreadsheet is not filled with anything, or that spreadsheet will be blank till end of the ICO?

Twitter is accounted for on the main bounty site. You can view all your stakes there.
Just retweet and wait a bit. It is not updated real time.
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July 25, 2017, 06:32:28 AM
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Will my Blog Articles post on July 21 be accepted?

I don't see reason why not, if you submitted it
It will just take time to be added and reviewed.
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July 25, 2017, 07:27:13 AM
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Will my Blog Articles post on July 21 be accepted?

I don't see reason why not, if you submitted it
It will just take time to be added and reviewed.

I also have long been submitting blog articles, But no sign of receipt or rejected, I prefer a campaign that uses spreadsheets because it's clearer and transparent Than sitem beking
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July 25, 2017, 08:44:20 AM
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i am in betking s twitter bounty program and there is no problems with it,just rettwit and wait ,your stakes will add ,all is right there. Smiley

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July 25, 2017, 10:17:43 AM
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i am in betking s twitter bounty program and there is no problems with it,just rettwit and wait ,your stakes will add ,all is right there. Smiley

Yup and just wait for update from Dean. As I think he is handling the relaunch/presale/design etc. Alone which could probably result in some being overlooked at.



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are there still any bounties open?

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July 25, 2017, 10:56:05 AM
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I would like to join in the crowdsale
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Will my Blog Articles post on July 21 be accepted?
I also look forward to checking my article on July 21.  Only silence(

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July 25, 2017, 11:14:55 AM
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are there still any bounties open?

Looks like it still open since ICO still longer start
but for sure you can check it at bountry thread :
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July 25, 2017, 11:34:18 AM
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Then it seems that you have quite a racket going. 

Betking will be taking the cumulative investors' profit to buyback tokens, reducing the bankroll, then Betking alone will be accumulating profits on those tokens to infinity with no benefit to remaining token holders. 

Eventually, Betking will have purchased the majority of tokens back with investors' money (Bankroll profits) - in essence diluting remaining token holders since Betking retains the re-purchased tokens and earns all future profits on those tokens.  Sounds like it's good to be Dean / Betking.

If I'm misunderstanding, please let me know.

I'm buying tokens back with my own profit, the 30 million tokens I keep from the ICO.
There's not going to be any significant reduction in bankroll, max 10% every 3 months.
Yes I will then be making a profit on the tokens I hold, the ones not being sold plus the ones I buy back, that's pretty normal and how most businesses work.

Remaining token holders have the benefit that their tokens have much more value the longer they hold them. They can choose to never sell them back to me for many years or if the site was to be sold.

There's no dilution going on at all.




Thank you for this answer.

Please hear me out on this, and hopefully this explains what I mean and hopefully a better situation for all. 

Hypothetical:

Money Raised:  $10,000,000
70% Bankroll:  $ 7,000,000
30% BetKing:   $ 3,000,000

Price per token:  $10,000,000/70,000,000  = $0.14

Q1 Profit:  $500,000
Bankroll at end of Q1:  $7,500,000

Buyback 10% of tokens: 71,000,000 x 10% = 7,100,000 (includes bounty token holders)

Buyback price:  $500,000/100,000,000 tokens = .005 + 0.14 = .145

Reduction to bankroll:  7,100,000 x .145 = $1,029,500.00

Bankroll value after buyback:  $7,500,000 - $1,029,500 = $6,470,500

Remaining Investor tokens outstanding:  71,000,000 - 7,100,000 = 63,900,000

Value of token after buyback as proposed:  $6,470,500 / 100,000,000 = 0.064705
(this is where the dilution comes into play, although not a typical dilution as in the stock market) - Q2 would need to overcome the deficit just to break even.

Value of token after buyback if repurchased tokens were burned:  $6,470,500 / (100,000,000 - 7,100,000 = 92,900,000) =  0.069650161


When companies buyback shares, the outstanding shares are reduced, thus raising the value of the remaining shares.  I understand that these are not shares, but the same theory applies.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to dog your project, on the contrary, I'm still very interested under the right circumstances. I think there is value in your casino and profit to be made if done correctly.  I just think that by not burning the re-purchased shares it's a losing situation for the investor.

Please consider burning the re-purchased tokens, you would still always have the majority of tokens and they would be worth more and the more you burn, the higher percentage your 29,000,000  tokens represent (or whatever the final number is after all marketing and costs).  You would still achieve your goal of owning all tokens eventually.

Thanks for listening/considering.

Regards,
Dave

Correct except one thing.
My buy back price does not reduce after buying back. So if sa I bought 10% of tokens back for $1 or whatever after first quarter.
The remaining tokens are still worth $1 and then have the profit of next 3 months added on top of that
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July 25, 2017, 01:50:47 PM
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I would like to join in the crowdsale

The presale is still open and therefore you can participate at a 25% discount at the moment by contacting Dean via email (admin@betking.io) or PM the admin here
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July 25, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
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are there still any bounties open?

https://bounty.betking.io/  =  Sign up on the given link as well as login there to know about the available bounties there.

I would like to join in the crowdsale

The presale is still open and therefore you can participate at a 25% discount at the moment by contacting Dean via email (admin@betking.io) or PM the admin here

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July 25, 2017, 03:09:24 PM
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Graphics for roulette look fantastic. Probably one of the best I have seen so far.

My translation bounty is not updated on my account, is it just me or will the stakes be updated on a later date?

Hi
Thanks

To be honest I'm confused why people are making a big deal about bounties.
No matter what your stakes or score shows now, a full audit will be done at the end of the ICO which is in Septmeber.

We have things that are automated and me and support do update things semi-often but it just doesn't seem like people should care too much about it in my oppinon.

If you are doing what is lised in the bounty rules you'll be fine.

Thanks


hello BetKing.io bounty campaign manager. my stakes for tweets are still not showing and the icon that says connect to twitter has a red error sign. please update my bounty account. thanks

twitter works though, so maybe its on your side? did you link properly?

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I am also interested in this coin
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