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June 01, 2013, 02:59:56 AM |
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To quote from that awesome film, The Crow;
"It can't rain all the time"
Give it time, we will be back on top again.
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biganth
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June 01, 2013, 03:13:35 AM |
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Sigh, bad luck coupled with payouts .25 to .5 of normal. How's the song go? Should I stay or should I go now?
I stayed even in the darkest luck days. 18310 2013-06-01 02:41:35 0:52:58 7941437 6509 0.01980734 238975 25.10570000 97 confirmations left 18309 2013-06-01 01:48:37 5:15:09 49659498 40586 0.04422815 238964 25.05830000 86 confirmations left 18308 2013-05-31 20:33:28 1:42:52 16633401 13434 0.01851489 238930 25.00000000 52 confirmations left Love the error but expecting a recalculation. Don't think the recalculation is coming. Check your shares and payout on 18309 compared to mine. WTF?  |
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5120-01-518-6126
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June 01, 2013, 03:17:46 AM |
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Yeah, another glitch in 18309:
18309 2013-06-01 01:48:37 5:15:09 49659498 22630 0.00354027 238964 25.05830000 86 confirmations left
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18301 2013-05-31 08:22:51 4:54:34 46714536 21633 0.01175613 238831 25.38963413 confirmed
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18295 2013-05-31 00:15:51 4:40:25 44440241 19752 0.01071993 238780 25.00640000 confirmed
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18284 2013-05-30 09:23:24 5:14:27 48529423 22722 0.01236028 238658 25.41754350 confirmed
[Edit] Almost forgot to mention the glitch in 18305
18305 2013-05-31 16:13:50 0:45:01 7410765 2906 0.00351524 238901 25.26605000 21 confirmations left
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18300 2013-05-31 03:28:17 0:56:08 8883215 4009 0.01154248 238800 25.64249344 confirmed
18299 2013-05-31 02:32:09 0:55:51 8791245 4015 0.01080755 238796 25.29477058 confirmed
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18297 2013-05-31 01:12:25 0:48:41 7718499 3433 0.01057671 238788 25.08535000 confirmed
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rsbriggs
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June 01, 2013, 03:24:43 AM |
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Be telling me about 18309. Slush screwing over on 5+ hour block. Not knowing why I stay...
18310 2013-06-01 02:41:35 0:52:58 7941437 1255 0.00391622 238975 25.10570000
18309 2013-06-01 01:48:37 5:15:09 49659498 7043 0.00064628 238964 25.05830000
18308 2013-05-31 20:33:28 1:42:52 16633401 2407 0.00361929 238930 25.00000000
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June 01, 2013, 03:40:26 AM
Last edit: June 01, 2013, 04:38:31 AM by TomKeddie |
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Me too and my difficulty issues are still with me.
The proxy is reporting difficulty 2 and slush is configured as 1 so my reward got halved again. There is probably a way to make them double, this is a nasty bug.
18310 2013-06-01 02:41:35 0:52:58 7941437 3183 0.00970591 238975 25.10570000 91 confirmations left
18309 2013-06-01 01:48:37 5:15:09 49659498 32145 0.00320978 238964 25.05830000 80 confirmations left
18308 2013-05-31 20:33:28 1:42:52 16633401 13142 0.02089623 238930 25.00000000 46 confirmations left
18307 2013-05-31 18:50:36 0:18:57 3010041 2271 0.01868908 238919 25.26863000 35 confirmations left
18306 2013-05-31 18:31:39 2:17:49 21231848 17015 0.01871870 238916 25.31229000 32 confirmations left
18305 2013-05-31 16:13:50 0:45:01 7410765 5670 0.01910239 238901 25.26605000 17 confirmations left
18304 2013-05-31 15:28:49 3:24:52 34544624 24506 0.01934538 238894 25.04760000 10 confirmations left
back to BTCguild for a few days.
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Crystallas
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June 01, 2013, 03:45:23 AM |
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Well, whatever was adjusted with the latest updates on the 21st, broke some other things. I hope we can get some input from slush soon, he's usually very quick.
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matauc12
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June 01, 2013, 04:04:55 AM |
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Well, whatever was adjusted with the latest updates on the 21st, broke some other things. I hope we can get some input from slush soon, he's usually very quick.
in all fairness (although btc guild is rock stable, but over populated), almost every pool seems to have poor luck and issues ATM (luck is not an issue, but certainly "a cherry over the top'' when things go wrong). Staying here for the only being stratum + name coin (as far as I know). Plus, I kinda like supporting the guy who actually pretty much invented pools and stratum (I'm sure I'll get corrected on this one, but its still my feeling) |
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Crystallas
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June 01, 2013, 04:11:03 AM |
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Does discriminating against mining certain low tx-fee transfers have a negative pool effect on the rate the miner/pool solves blocks?
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matauc12
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June 01, 2013, 04:43:36 AM |
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Does discriminating against mining certain low tx-fee transfers have a negative pool effect on the rate the miner/pool solves blocks?
god damn, good thing I made put a parentheses on that one huh? What it meant is if things go wrong on a day with 50% pool luck and 1 bad payment people will be more upset than on a day with 150% pool luck and 1 bad payment. Eck, would you even have pool hopped today if despite the error the pool was at 150%? I would bet no. |
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Crystallas
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June 01, 2013, 04:43:41 AM |
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Well, whatever was adjusted with the latest updates on the 21st, broke some other things. I hope we can get some input from slush soon, he's usually very quick.
in all fairness (although btc guild is rock stable, but over populated), almost every pool seems to have poor luck and issues ATM (luck is not an issue, but certainly "a cherry over the top'' when things go wrong). Staying here for the only being stratum + name coin (as far as I know). Plus, I kinda like supporting the guy who actually pretty much invented pools and stratum (I'm sure I'll get corrected on this one, but its still my feeling) Oh, I agree. I'm pretty loyal to good pool ops, and at no point do I think negatively of slush whatsoever. But I think a lot of us would still like some input over things he might be seeing that we can't. If there is an issue, other than api2.bitcoin.cz giving users issues, and if the issues will be resolved/or fully redirected to stratum. |
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Crystallas
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June 01, 2013, 04:45:10 AM |
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Does discriminating against mining certain low tx-fee transfers have a negative pool effect on the rate the miner/pool solves blocks?
god damn, good thing I made put a parentheses on that one huh? What it meant is if things go wrong on a day with 50% pool luck and 1 bad payment people will be more upset than on a day with 150% pool luck and 1 bad payment. Eck, would you even have pool hopped today if despite the error the pool was at 150%? I would bet no.  I have no idea what you're getting at. My question wasn't directed at anyone specific, just a valid question seeking an answer(as well as being completely unrelated to the pool luck dip in the last few days). |
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matauc12
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June 01, 2013, 04:51:29 AM |
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Does discriminating against mining certain low tx-fee transfers have a negative pool effect on the rate the miner/pool solves blocks?
god damn, good thing I made put a parentheses on that one huh? What it meant is if things go wrong on a day with 50% pool luck and 1 bad payment people will be more upset than on a day with 150% pool luck and 1 bad payment. Eck, would you even have pool hopped today if despite the error the pool was at 150%? I would bet no. I have no idea what you're getting at. My question wasn't directed at anyone specific, just a valid question seeking an answer(as well as being completely unrelated to the pool luck dip in the last few days). lol, my bad, I reread and completely misunderstood that lol. Sorry |
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Lucko
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June 01, 2013, 06:17:49 AM |
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Somebody please tell me that the Graphs page on the site is broke. I'm dieing here. heh. the increase in hashing power the pool has seen has pretty much maintained the number of blocks that the pool has been getting each day. but according to the graph i'm getting half the btcs i was 5 days ago. i would expect this if the hashing power had doubled, but not for about a 10% rise. hmmm. where's Lucko when i need him? heheheh.
Sleeping, working... If this was not a joke and you would really like my input here it is. The reword has also a luck factor. Last seven days the luck was 83%. So this is where 17% of your reword has gone. Then it was a difficulty increase by 16%(not complicity sure), so you get even less. 0,83*0,84=0,6972. So that explain 30% less. There were also some lost blocks so that probably adds some percentage(I know that one day they reduce reword by 10%)... And calculation error or two  and you are there. The whole hashrate of the pool is not an issue. Even if it would 10x more the reword for a day, week, year would still be the same... Only number of block would change and amount you get per block. The only think you are looking at are luck, difficulty and invalids (if there are no errors). |
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nottm28
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June 01, 2013, 09:24:33 AM |
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I got 2.5 x normal reward fot 18309. (Not bragging, just pointing out that it looks to me, the 'missing' coins go to a few lucky pool miners and not to slush).
I've had plenty of rounds where I have been the one who was 'missing' coins.
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Lucko
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June 01, 2013, 09:36:45 AM |
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I got 2.5 x normal reward fot 18309. (Not bragging, just pointing out that it looks to me, the 'missing' coins go to a few lucky pool miners and not to slush).
I've had plenty of rounds where I have been the one who was 'missing' coins.
That was never the question. When reset accusers some workers don't get reseted. I guess it has something to do with time the share is submitted and calculated during reset... And since worker has hi score you get more on that round. Depends how long from reset round ends... |
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nottm28
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June 01, 2013, 09:39:45 AM |
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I got 2.5 x normal reward fot 18309. (Not bragging, just pointing out that it looks to me, the 'missing' coins go to a few lucky pool miners and not to slush).
I've had plenty of rounds where I have been the one who was 'missing' coins.
That was never the question. When reset accusers some workers don't get reseted. I guess it has something to do with time the share is submitted and calculated during reset... And since worker has hi score you get more on that round. Depends how long from reset round ends... I guess so, but there's still 30 confirmations to go. I've seen these things correct themselves at the last minute. If slush pops on and sees it he will recalcuate it no doubt. |
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minerapia
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June 01, 2013, 09:48:06 AM |
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My "personal luck" for 7 days is at 78% atm (7 days moving avg from graphs / estimated reward from mining profitability calculator).
pools 7 day is at 84% atm. so considering stales, downtimes (adding/cleaning fans, changed lan wires to wireless usb, etc) and other anomalies, I think the pools is working as it should (atleast for me).
I also had my share of missing/big payouts from certain blocks, but in 7 days it seems to even out quite nicely.
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PrintMule
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June 01, 2013, 10:38:01 AM |
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best way to mitigate variance / bad luck is to spread you hasspeed across multiple pools at once. like 3-4 pools at least
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diskodasa
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June 01, 2013, 10:38:37 AM |
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18309 2013-06-01 01:48:37 5:15:09 49659498 4669 0.00051640 238964 25.05830000 24 confirmations left |
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KNK
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June 01, 2013, 10:43:28 AM |
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best way to mitigate variance / bad luck is to spread you hasspeed across multiple pools at once. like 3-4 pools at least
And that's exactly what i am doing and have suggested several pages ago. EDIT: I like the number 3, so this was a natural choice for me. |
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