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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4381849 times)
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November 21, 2014, 05:08:19 AM
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Is it possible we could have our first ever decrease in difficulty the next difficulty change?

Very possible!

We'll see...

Bitcoin Difficulty:   40,300,030,328
Estimated Next Difficulty:   40,303,871,431 (+0.01%)
Adjust time:   After 1748 Blocks, About 12.1 days
Hashrate(?):   285,000,092 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 29.9 minutes
6 blocks: 59.8 minutes
Updated:   14:10 (14.2 minutes ago)

There's been decreases in difficulty before, it's just been awhile.






and I doubt that We willl have any anytime soon.  New Hardware = thousands more buying and thousands more turning on thus doubling the diff and decreasing the cost/BTC.       


I suspect we wont have any drops for like a year when new Hardware stops being developed and bought.  In the meantime.   Expect to get shut out of the game due to diff rise.   


Wether I pay for hydro or not.    I will enver stop.  Sicne BTc are my only source of income.




All these calculations ad stuff.. more miners.. better and faster profit.. but since u add more u increase the diff more.    making profit harder to get.



When if the whole Bitcoin network(which they will never ever do because they dont have common sense)   turned off 10-20% of their miners.  the Difficulty would probably drop back to the 20s it was at like 18 a few months back... now its at 40. 

turn of 10-20% of all miners on the bitcoin network.  and we willl probably get  back their DOUBLING everyone profit  and at a much much faster rate.     


turn off your old miners.  Keep all your new miners running.





But That would make sense... Just nobody will do that because nobody wants Dust collectors sitting around. 

Again.. it comes back to Uncommon Sense
I'm beginning to wonder if you have any common sense. Why would anyone have any incentive to turn off 10-20% of their miners when they have no idea in actuality that every other miner is doing the same thing? Any miner who chooses not to turn off their rigs will have a 10-20% increase in their chance of finding blocks during your brilliant "difficulty manipulation theory".
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November 21, 2014, 01:19:25 PM
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Last time, one of my miners died for 8 hours during a long block, i was able to get it mining again during the last few hours until it solved the block. I think the block took like 14 hours or so. My payout was still same as usual as before if I was mining there 24/7.

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Score system at it's finest...

Actually it's a feature. I recommend to read https://beta.mining.bitcoin.cz/user-manual/rewards and especially understand the first graph there. You cannot systematically "abuse" the pool like this, because you never know when the round ends...

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November 21, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
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ooc has a good blog post on slush's pool from quite awhile ago that is good reading.
http://howtohop.blogspot.ca/2012/03/how-to-hop-part-1-slushs-pool.html

This post from 2012 is quite obsolete, lot of things changed in the meantime. The main difference between current scoring system and ooc's analysis is that the score is continuous, and there's nothing like edge of the round when score is restarted back from zero. That was the major downside of old scoring method, because it made pool hoppable.

I recommend to read very detailed description of current scoring method here: https://beta.mining.bitcoin.cz/user-manual/rewards

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November 21, 2014, 01:29:56 PM
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Trying to "beat" the system is like trying to predict the future. Good luck! - That's what you need Cry

Hot time, summer in the city, back of my mine getting hot & gritty!!!
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November 21, 2014, 01:53:53 PM
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ooc has a good blog post on slush's pool from quite awhile ago that is good reading.
http://howtohop.blogspot.ca/2012/03/how-to-hop-part-1-slushs-pool.html

This post from 2012 is quite obsolete, lot of things changed in the meantime. The main difference between current scoring system and ooc's analysis is that the score is continuous, and there's nothing like edge of the round when score is restarted back from zero. That was the major downside of old scoring method, because it made pool hoppable.

I recommend to read very detailed description of current scoring method here: https://beta.mining.bitcoin.cz/user-manual/rewards
Excellent, thank you very much slush. When did you implement the change from the straight exponential to the moving average?
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November 21, 2014, 02:31:23 PM
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ooc has a good blog post on slush's pool from quite awhile ago that is good reading.
http://howtohop.blogspot.ca/2012/03/how-to-hop-part-1-slushs-pool.html

This post from 2012 is quite obsolete, lot of things changed in the meantime. The main difference between current scoring system and ooc's analysis is that the score is continuous, and there's nothing like edge of the round when score is restarted back from zero. That was the major downside of old scoring method, because it made pool hoppable.

I recommend to read very detailed description of current scoring method here: https://beta.mining.bitcoin.cz/user-manual/rewards

Wow....it's like the hand of God reached down from the Heavens....and gave a big *whack* across the face  Embarrassed  Priceless....

 Wink Slush is back!!!
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November 21, 2014, 07:21:16 PM
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All hail the Bitcoin God, his name is Slush.

https://www.buytrezor.com?a=55c37b866c11   well sir, I like it!
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November 22, 2014, 02:00:41 AM
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Love the stats page on the new site.

Blew my mind that the highest number of users in a given sector are still battling away at 125-250Mh/s. Also wondering who that one bastard is with 2.5Ph/s heh.
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November 22, 2014, 02:34:34 AM
Last edit: November 22, 2014, 03:21:05 AM by Billbags
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^ You just created page #1000 in this thread.....crazy Tongue  Thread started on November 27, 2010, 01:45:41 PM.

Slush's first newbie post on Bitcointalk.org......he came in swinging and yelling "what's wrong with this crap mining software"

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3378     Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: A new miner written in Java, should be faster than m0mchil's    on: November 10, 2010, 09:18:20 PM
Hi, what I'm doing wrong?

Code:
C:\Users\myname\xxx>dir
 Volume in drive C has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is FCC4-B48E

 Directory of C:\Users\myname\xxx

10.11.2010  22:14    <DIR>          .
10.11.2010  22:14    <DIR>          ..
10.11.2010  22:04               160 DiabloMiner-Linux.sh
10.11.2010  22:04               161 DiabloMiner-OSX.sh
10.11.2010  22:04               162 DiabloMiner-Solaris.sh
10.11.2010  22:04            35 147 LICENSE
10.11.2010  22:04               759 README
10.11.2010  22:14    <DIR>          target
               5 File(s)         36 389 bytes
               3 Dir(s)  1 469 357 600 768 bytes free

C:\Users\myname\xxx>java -cp target/libs/*:target/DiabloMiner-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar -Djava.library.path=target/libs/natives/windows com.diablominer.DiabloMiner.DiabloMiner
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/diablominer/DiabloMiner/DiabloMiner
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.diablominer.DiabloMiner.DiabloMiner
        at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
        at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
        at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
        at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
Could not find the main class: com.diablominer.DiabloMiner.DiabloMiner.  Program will exit.


NOTE: Looks like 17 days later he rewrote everything and started pool mining right along with this thread.......

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November 22, 2014, 03:38:55 AM
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Nice bit of BTC history you found there Billbags.

https://www.buytrezor.com?a=55c37b866c11   well sir, I like it!
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November 22, 2014, 08:02:45 AM
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(clap)(clap)(clap)
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Yup the birth of a pool. Marek (slush) will be on a conference in my country next week and I wont be able to go talk to him and to a bunch of important people.  Undecided
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November 22, 2014, 08:37:12 AM
Last edit: November 22, 2014, 09:08:49 AM by dmwardjr
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Has anyone had problems with S4 showing NO (zero - 0) "best shares" in miner status on Slush Pool?

I pointed it at CK Pool and it would show an amount in "best shares."

I pointed it at Eligius and it would show an amount in "best shares."

I pointed it back here and NO BEST SHARES!

I'm still getting paid for my hashing power.  The only thing is it will never find a block and possibly get paid a bonus.

Anyone else ran into this yet with an S4 on Slush Pool?

I'm still here cause I'm still getting paid.  However, I'm purchasing 4 more S4's on the 29th of this month.

I issued a ticket and hope to hear from them soon with a possible fix.

EDIT:

Got it fixed...

Had to set the "diff" for the S4 at the pool "workers" page to 1664 and not 2048

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November 22, 2014, 08:45:04 AM
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Has anyone had problems with S4 showing NO (zero - 0) "best shares" in miner status on Slush Pool?

I pointed it at CK Pool and it would show an amount in "best shares."

I pointed it at Eligius and it would show an amount in "best shares."

I pointed it back here and NO BEST SHARES!

I'm still getting paid for my hashing power.  The only thing is it will never find a block and possibly get paid a bonus.

Anyone else ran into this yet with an S4 on Slush Pool?

I'm still here cause I'm still getting paid.  However, I'm purchasing 4 more S4's on the 29th of this month.

I issued a ticket and hope to hear from them soon with a possible fix.

You must set minimum difficulty to 2048 on an S4.

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November 22, 2014, 09:10:21 AM
Last edit: November 22, 2014, 03:53:17 PM by dmwardjr
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Has anyone had problems with S4 showing NO (zero - 0) "best shares" in miner status on Slush Pool?

I pointed it at CK Pool and it would show an amount in "best shares."

I pointed it at Eligius and it would show an amount in "best shares."

I pointed it back here and NO BEST SHARES!

I'm still getting paid for my hashing power.  The only thing is it will never find a block and possibly get paid a bonus.

Anyone else ran into this yet with an S4 on Slush Pool?

I'm still here cause I'm still getting paid.  However, I'm purchasing 4 more S4's on the 29th of this month.

I issued a ticket and hope to hear from them soon with a possible fix.

You must set minimum difficulty to 2048 on an S4.

It WAS set at 2048 but nothing.

I changed it to 1664 like another guy said at the ANTMINER S4 forum and it started showing shares.  LOL

Go figure.

I suppose yours shows shares at 2048?

His would not show either unless set to 1664.

Also, the hash rate is fine.  Everything is fine!


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November 22, 2014, 12:43:08 PM
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Hi all,

Firstly thanks for all the advice so far, it is appreciated.

1 more question lol. I have an s3+ and an s3 running. Combined hash of from 950 mh/s to 1020 mh/s. However, performance drops off to around 840mh/s after about 5hours or so. Quick reboot and we are off again. Any way I can script in a command to automatically reboot after say 4 hours or so? Huh

Ant thoughts or ideas would be gratefully received.

Mick
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November 22, 2014, 01:22:14 PM
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Hi all,

Firstly thanks for all the advice so far, it is appreciated.

1 more question lol. I have an s3+ and an s3 running. Combined hash of from 950 mh/s to 1020 mh/s. However, performance drops off to around 840mh/s after about 5hours or so. Quick reboot and we are off again. Any way I can script in a command to automatically reboot after say 4 hours or so? Huh

Ant thoughts or ideas would be gratefully received.

Mick


I have the same problem with all my S3 and S3+ miners but I figured it just the way they work. I would like to know if there is a way to keep them up to 500 ghs all the time.
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November 22, 2014, 01:28:07 PM
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Has anyone had problems with S4 showing NO (zero - 0) "best shares" in miner status on Slush Pool?

I pointed it at CK Pool and it would show an amount in "best shares."

I pointed it at Eligius and it would show an amount in "best shares."

I pointed it back here and NO BEST SHARES!

I'm still getting paid for my hashing power.  The only thing is it will never find a block and possibly get paid a bonus.

Anyone else ran into this yet with an S4 on Slush Pool?

I'm still here cause I'm still getting paid.  However, I'm purchasing 4 more S4's on the 29th of this month.

I issued a ticket and hope to hear from them soon with a possible fix.

You must set minimum difficulty to 2048 on an S4.

It WAS set at 2048 but nothing.

I changed it to 1664 like another guy said at the ANTMINER S4 forum and it started showing shares.  LOL

Go figure.

I suppose yours shows shares at 2048?

His would not show either unless set to 1664.

Also, the hash rate is fine.  Everything is fine!

https://i.imgur.com/4gVuoJK.png

I have the same problem on my S3+ but not my S3?
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November 22, 2014, 02:10:43 PM
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Cheesy
I have that problem on my S3s but not my S3+ what the hell?
I didnt figure it was important... is it?
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November 22, 2014, 03:50:57 PM
Last edit: November 22, 2014, 05:50:59 PM by Billbags
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All my miners both s3's and Rockminers do that to some extent. They go down 20-40 ghs after awhile and then come back up after awhile...I just learned to live with it. Note: I don't have any s3+, just regular s3's.

Update: I believe I remember talk that the DC/DC chips were not good enough for this new generation of asics when they first came out. I know the s3+ had better DC/DC chips installed and think AsicMiner finally upgraded their DC/DC chips on their last batch of miners.

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November 22, 2014, 07:35:27 PM
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Anyone else noticed the jump in pool Hashrate ?

What's the concensus --- is this poolhoppers or new hashpower ?
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