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Author Topic: [ANN] [ICO] MONETHA - Decentralised reputation with built-in payments  (Read 187427 times)
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July 20, 2017, 02:49:20 PM
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its impossible to speculate long term but if you believe the project has potential then hold and let it grow.
 
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Nice project. This has a a lot potential

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July 20, 2017, 08:54:25 PM
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still waiting for that bounty program....the only thing that i do not get....ANY TRANSACTION OF ANY SCALE WILL HAVE A 1.5% FEE? because if so...this fee will kill the project...or maybe i did not get that very well?

Hi @zuzuca! Bounty campaign is almost ready and will be launched soon. Regarding your question:

1. 1.5% commission fee that Merchant pays for Monetha’s payments processing and Decentralised Trust and Reputation System does include an exchange rate. 

And the reason is: in the payments industry, there is no standard of having an exchange rate included into the payment processing. Exchanging to a different currency is a merchant’s prerogative and no one enforces it.
PayPal and other major payment processing companies do not include an exchange rate into it’s transaction fee. For example not only does PayPal take 2.9%-4,4% (depending on a country) + $0.3 transaction fee from the merchant, but also exchanges the currency with a bigger rate than the standard.

All of the currency exchange is being done for a separate fee. For example, VISA not only has a separate exchange rate fee (which is usually bigger than a regular exchange rate fee) but also a Dynamic Currency Conversion fee (which is normally around extra 2%) and sometimes even a foreign transaction fee (1%-5%, usually 3%) if the payment was processed abroad.

Moreover, your currency exchange is always an optional thing. You cannot and should not include it into the transaction fee.

2. Regarding the fees paid by the merchant:

For example, here is the fee schedule for one of the most popular crypto exchanges - Kraken: https://www.kraken.com/en-us/help/fees.
If you are a merchant in Europe, the highest transaction fee that you will pay using Monetha is 0.26% when the volume is lower than 50.000. To withdraw euros via SEPA you will pay EUR 0.09.

So, let's take an example where merchant is in Europe and receives Ethereum based cryptocurrency and exchanges it to euros it would go like this: 10 - (10*0,015) - (10*0,0026) = 10 - 0.15 - 0,026 = EUR 9,824

We also acknowledge the fact, that in other cases and other countries the exchange rate might be higher.

But, you have to remember that the merchant does not only pay a transaction fee when accepting payments with traditional payment gateways. There are bunch of other fees that merchants have to pay, such as:

● Retrieval Request Fees and Chargeback Fees are paid when someone claims for a chargeback. The best-known payment gateways such as PayPal and Stripe charge merchants a USD 15 chargeback fee.
● Flat fees that include: Terminal fees to buy the needed terminal for retail merchants, PCI fees paid to Payment Card industry for compliance OR noncompliance
● Annual fees, Monthly fees, Monthly minimum fees, IRS reporting fees, network fees , etc.
● Incidental fees that consist of: Address Verification Service (AVS), Voice Authorization Fee (VAF), Batch Fee, and NFS fee.
● Marketplace fees for Alibaba, Amazon, etc for “providing and facilitating” the trust system. Think about his use case: if you are a small merchant in China, the only way to sell goods to the global world and be trusted at the same time is to join the Alibaba. You won’t need to pay a fee for a payment gateway, but Alibaba will charge you a pack of other high fees.

When combined, it calculates to a high amount of money that the merchant has to pay per year for a payment processing.

3. Regarding the business model:

As we do not include an exchange rate, here is the situation:

Monetha will charge a 1.5% transaction fee from merchants. Of that, 0.5% will go to a smart contract for the Monetha token holders and other 1% will go to the company as revenues. An interesting fact is that the average traditional payment gateways take approximately only 0.25% + 0.1 from the total fee as their revenue. This 0.25% + 0.1 is a mark-up fee to the interchange rates.
For example, if the total transaction fee that merchant is charged is 2.9% + $0.3, the 2.65%+ $0.2 is the interchange part that banks, credit card associations and others are dividing and 0.25% + $0.1 is the markup part , which payment gateways take home as a revenue.
Having this in mind, we have almost four times the rate to do business with as compared with what an average global payment gateway takes per transaction as their revenues.
i have to admit..this is a very cool project
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July 20, 2017, 08:58:29 PM
Last edit: July 20, 2017, 09:31:32 PM by majestymage
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yup..a cool project..i can do the romanian translation for the thread and whitepaper.  as a proof of previous work, here is the bancor translation that i have done https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917867.0 . the romanian bancor whitepaper it was also done by me.

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July 20, 2017, 09:21:14 PM
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I can do the Italian ANN thread translation.  Perhaps I could do also whitepaper, but I first have to check if I have enough time, since it's very long.

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July 21, 2017, 08:03:37 PM
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Thank you all for your positive feedback!

Here is our new blog:

Get to know better the gentlemen who collected years of experience in their domains.
The domains that Monetha will soon dominate.
https://medium.com/@monetha/the-strength-of-the-team-is-each-member-the-strength-of-each-member-is-the-team-phil-jackson-2616d21ce0a5

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July 21, 2017, 09:58:53 PM
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nnice  project. could not participate in signature campaign now. Sad will there be social media campaigns?

good luck dev. Smiley
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July 21, 2017, 10:03:48 PM
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You know when I get away from a project? When I see people from the same country in the team, I never invest that project. This people are all like Slavic like Lithuanian, Latvian or something which break my trust easily.

Sonm project is a super example of this. They totally failed.

Alway seek multinational projects.
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July 21, 2017, 11:09:38 PM
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You know when I get away from a project? When I see people from the same country in the team, I never invest that project. This people are all like Slavic like Lithuanian, Latvian or something which break my trust easily.

Sonm project is a super example of this. They totally failed.

Alway seek multinational projects.

I had never suspected Lithuanians and Latvians were Slavic Smiley
I think looking at whitepaper and fundamentals of a project could be a better criteria...

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July 22, 2017, 12:25:33 AM
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nnice  project. could not participate in signature campaign now. Sad will there be social media campaigns?

good luck dev. Smiley

Really a good project, it seems that the site has no bounty for social networks: https: //www.monetha.io/en/bounty. i Joined in Signature and avatar Smiley
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good luck guys
join signature campaign
success for MONETHA ...
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July 22, 2017, 06:16:24 AM
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You know when I get away from a project? When I see people from the same country in the team, I never invest that project. This people are all like Slavic like Lithuanian, Latvian or something which break my trust easily.

Sonm project is a super example of this. They totally failed.

Alway seek multinational projects.

Thanks for the comment tauceramica, but you are misinformed.

First of all, Lithuania is not a Slavic country (it would be similar to calling a Chinese person Japanese). Geographically it is considered to be a Northern Europe country (Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark) and politically Lithuania is being considered as a Baltic country (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia).

Baltic countries are very well known for its educated and talented people, especially in the IT development and in both the traditional startup scene (Skype, TransferWise, Pipedrive, Vinted, Yplan, TransferGo etc.) and in blockchain (Edgeless (Top 65 coin), Mysterium Network (raised over $15M in their ICO), Polybius (raised over $31Min their ICO)).

Second of all, the Monetha is actually very diverse and its team received 9 out of 10 rating in the most popular ICO rating site "ICO Tracker" (that's even before a former PayPal executive and one of the most influential figures in online trust and reputation joined Monetha).

5 out of 12 team members are not Lithuanian (2 are from the United States, 1 from the UK, 2 from France) and all of the other team members have international software development and business experience in countries like the US, UK, Israel, UAE, France, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Malaysia and many others.

We're happy that ICO concept enables strong projects to raise capital no matter of their geographical location, skin color or false nationalistic stereotype.
The way investing in startups should be.
 

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Still no response to my offer to translate your project. Not interested on a romanian translation?

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July 22, 2017, 10:59:35 AM
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Still no response to my offer to translate your project. Not interested on a romanian translation?

Thanks for the question majestymage and sorry for the late response. As shown in our bounty page (https://www.monetha.io/en/bounty), we do not need a Romanian translation.

Thanks for the interest.
Monetha Team

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July 22, 2017, 11:11:50 AM
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I have joined the signature campaigne. Whether in Monetha ICO there is a social media campaign.? I hope there is a social media campaign like facebook and twiter. Hopefully Monetho ICO project success...
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Sounds like a very interesting project. I'll be definitely keeping an eye on it!

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Will the Bitcointalk signature and avatar bounty end at the end of ICO? Or in 2 months? Success in project
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Will the Bitcointalk signature and avatar bounty end at the end of ICO? Or in 2 months? Success in project

Thanks for the question lilaj4de. The signature and avatar bounty will end once the ICO ends.


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July 22, 2017, 08:51:12 PM
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Still no response to my offer to translate your project. Not interested on a romanian translation?

Thanks for the question majestymage and sorry for the late response. As shown in our bounty page (https://www.monetha.io/en/bounty), we do not need a Romanian translation.

Thanks for the interest.
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well...ok..good luck anyway  Grin

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July 22, 2017, 11:31:11 PM
 #160

If you're able to reduce numerous transactional steps why do you need to charge 1.5% fee. It seems a little steep to me. Are you planning to provide better fee rate for businesses that have tons of transactions or this will be a 1.5% flat fee?

Is Monetha going to be an online payment gateway only? Or are you also planning to issue physical card so consumers can use at  brick & mortar stores?

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