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June 27, 2017, 06:29:41 AM
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I'm pretty new to trading, currently trying to digest as much information as possible - just have a few questions that I would like to get opinions on...

I'm looking to invest 2BTC into the market. Since my initial is pretty low, I plan on investing the majority of my money into alts. I want to play 60/40 with each coin I invest in, keeping 60% into long-term holds and using 40% for short... hopefully, to get my initial back to invest into bigger coins.

My question is how many coins would be a healthy amount to invest in with just 2BTC? I don't want to spread my money into too many coins since I'll be holding 60% in each coin long term and only playing 40% in short, but then again I don't want to keep my portfolio too small putting myself in a 1 basket situation.

I'm currently looking at:

Siacoin < made 15% during the dip yesterday - wish I had my deposit in from Coinbase so I could've invested a lot more in the market dips, o well :/
Verge
Ark
Ardor
Antshares/NEO
Steem

Other coins I'm looking at as well:

BAT
Golem
Nxt
IOTA

Would appreciate any advice or input,
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June 27, 2017, 07:00:18 AM
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If you want an honest trading advice then believe only the ones that say everything is overbought right now. Stay away from altcoins until they have fully corrected. If you buy in now, it will probably result in paper losses, and it can be very frustrating looking at those in your portfolio.

 




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June 27, 2017, 07:18:05 AM
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If you want an honest trading advice then believe only the ones that say everything is overbought right now. Stay away from altcoins until they have fully corrected. If you buy in now, it will probably result in paper losses, and it can be very frustrating looking at those in your portfolio.

Thanks for the advice, I'm definitely waiting until market correction - not trying to buy into a falling knife.
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June 27, 2017, 08:21:35 AM
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no trading advice, please check here

don't trade for a year!

this strategy is really useful, if you trust Bitcoin, please never trade and just buy buy buy, keep and hold them, look for a right opportunity to dump! (such as now)

Yeah a lot of people already made big money from holding for years quite like with btc userd from then. And though now may be a good opportunity to dump, i'd still choose to hold. Who knows what may happen in the next few years, the forecasts are promising for the future of btc.
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June 27, 2017, 08:33:32 AM
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no trading advice, please check here

don't trade for a year!

this strategy is really useful, if you trust Bitcoin, please never trade and just buy buy buy, keep and hold them, look for a right opportunity to dump! (such as now)

Yeah a lot of people already made big money from holding for years quite like with btc userd from then. And though now may be a good opportunity to dump, i'd still choose to hold. Who knows what may happen in the next few years, the forecasts are promising for the future of btc.

My plan is to hold 60% for the long term and use 40% for short term in every coin I invest in - hopefully, my short term gains will allow me to diversify my portfolio and create more long-term holdings.

Right now I'm just having issues with figuring out how many coins I should invest in w/ 2BTC - I don't want to thin my money out investing in a bunch of different coins, but at the same time I don't want to limit myself to just a couple.

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June 27, 2017, 03:04:11 PM
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I'm definitely waiting until market correction - not trying to buy into a falling knife.
Your waiting may last infinitely as you will never able to figure out when will be the corrections ending. I like to suggest you to ignore altcoins completely and do focus on only bitcoins. Buy now some bitcoins for 10% of your capital and wait for one week time and buy again for another 10%. You will be into safer hand if you are ready to buy in average prices.

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June 27, 2017, 03:23:33 PM
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I'm definitely waiting until market correction - not trying to buy into a falling knife.
Your waiting may last infinitely as you will never able to figure out when will be the corrections ending. I like to suggest you to ignore altcoins completely and do focus on only bitcoins. Buy now some bitcoins for 10% of your capital and wait for one week time and buy again for another 10%. You will be into safer hand if you are ready to buy in average prices.
Hi, sounds good. i think so & i will prefer your suggestion so much. Trading is not for newbie at all ( is not all but some guys). they are belonging to bitcoin, its the best & safe for themselves.
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June 27, 2017, 03:31:56 PM
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Wow your plan seems to be very big. I'm not educated enough with altcoins but getting clear vision with your post and other replies here. As usual some positive and done neg replies. I think your long term plan looks good as every coin will pop up in long run with corrections in their techs. Keep it up.
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June 27, 2017, 07:20:57 PM
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I'm definitely waiting until market correction - not trying to buy into a falling knife.
Your waiting may last infinitely as you will never able to figure out when will be the corrections ending. I like to suggest you to ignore altcoins completely and do focus on only bitcoins. Buy now some bitcoins for 10% of your capital and wait for one week time and buy again for another 10%. You will be into safer hand if you are ready to buy in average prices.

 I agree that it's really all speculation, but right now all coins are seeing a downward spiral - I'm going to try and catch the lowest dip I can. I'm only going to invest 2BTC right now so alts seem to be the best way to gain capital with such a low investment, hopefully with short term gains I'll be able to move money into more secure coins like BTC/ETC.
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June 27, 2017, 10:25:30 PM
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If you want an honest trading advice then believe only the ones that say everything is overbought right now. Stay away from altcoins until they have fully corrected. If you buy in now, it will probably result in paper losses, and it can be very frustrating looking at those in your portfolio.

Thanks for the advice, I'm definitely waiting until market correction - not trying to buy into a falling knife.
If you a bag holder of coins, that's a normal thing for the traders. Just important is you know what altcoins you are holding for.
As you well know most of the coins is just a hype only.
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June 28, 2017, 05:41:39 AM
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As a beginner trader I would suggest you to trade the top 10 coin or at least a famous coin, I think that way you will reduce the risk of losing, and also will give you clue and experience about the trading, but I see you pick some good coin to trade like steem and nxt, other than that is a bit risky coin to trade but that is just my prediction and some of the coin you own won't be bounce back once falling down, so don't trade too much


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Patience and Discipline are the keys to become successful in trading.
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Since you have the budget to trade big you may want to join our group for trading signals. You can get signalsof which coin is best to trade and when to buy and sell them for max profit. It isn't free but the capital you will use in this will onlytake a week or two to get it back. I can tell you that this is very reliable and you can get big profits from it. Btw, the coins you are looking at are great. I am actually holding some of them and just waiting for the right time to sell them again.

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June 28, 2017, 07:30:38 PM
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There are some trading groups to discuss about which coins that will be rise or stay down and everyone could join for free, look at trading thread (here) and you may find one of them.

How you decide which coins to hold for short and long-term?
Which coins you want to hold for long term?
Usually, I trust some coins that has been around for months and has good record.
Nxt and Iota may increase a bit, antshares, ark and steem are good enough to hold, ardor and bat seems has good pump right now.
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Best advice when there is a hype be carefull since mostly after a hype comes a deep dump
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June 29, 2017, 01:43:08 AM
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I'm pretty new to trading, currently trying to digest as much information as possible - just have a few questions that I would like to get opinions on...

I'm looking to invest 2BTC into the market. Since my initial is pretty low, I plan on investing the majority of my money into alts. I want to play 60/40 with each coin I invest in, keeping 60% into long-term holds and using 40% for short... hopefully, to get my initial back to invest into bigger coins.

My question is how many coins would be a healthy amount to invest in with just 2BTC? I don't want to spread my money into too many coins since I'll be holding 60% in each coin long term and only playing 40% in short, but then again I don't want to keep my portfolio too small putting myself in a 1 basket situation.

I'm currently looking at:

Siacoin < made 15% during the dip yesterday - wish I had my deposit in from Coinbase so I could've invested a lot more in the market dips, o well :/
Verge
Ark
Ardor
Antshares/NEO
Steem

Other coins I'm looking at as well:

BAT
Golem
Nxt
IOTA

Would appreciate any advice or input,
Cheers


It's okay to trade alt coins but you should realize that it is gambling - and when I say it's gambling, what I mean is that your performance is entirely luck based and you cannot increase your odds of outperforming the market by doing research. The crypto market is so inefficient that the correlation between price and value is nearly non-existent. It's a myth that you can day trade alt coins and make a consistent profit. You'll do well while the whole crypto market is rising, but that won't happen forever. Furthermore, it is highly unlikely that you'll be able to outperform the market even as you do profit in a bull market. Fun fact - 99.4% of professional fund managers cannot consistently outperform the s&p500... and that's in the stock market, which is infinitely more efficient than the crypto market.

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I only trade coins with reasonable volume ... all trading maximized to USD. (I like fiat liquidity  Wink ).

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June 29, 2017, 05:37:02 AM
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Patience and Discipline are the keys to become successful in trading.

totally agree. and more than that, please have a strong hands. buy more when ever there are deeps, dont panic sell. you might lost everything if you do that. another is, read, read, read. and research, research, research. thats the only key if you want a perfect trade. research on the token you plan to trade.
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June 29, 2017, 08:26:13 AM
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Patience and Discipline are the keys to become successful in trading.

totally agree. and more than that, please have a strong hands. buy more when ever there are deeps, dont panic sell. you might lost everything if you do that. another is, read, read, read. and research, research, research. thats the only key if you want a perfect trade. research on the token you plan to trade.
Everything we will be needing to better trading will come into our practice along with experiences. Traders who are rushing toward making big money, go straightly into live market and then losing all their capital.

Traders who are knowing the value of patience and discipline, get themselves into demo accounts and learn all the requirements of perfect trading for free of cost and finally moving into live trading to make consistent profits for their living too. 
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June 29, 2017, 08:29:33 AM
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I'm pretty new to trading, currently trying to digest as much information as possible - just have a few questions that I would like to get opinions on...

I'm looking to invest 2BTC into the market. Since my initial is pretty low, I plan on investing the majority of my money into alts. I want to play 60/40 with each coin I invest in, keeping 60% into long-term holds and using 40% for short... hopefully, to get my initial back to invest into bigger coins.

My question is how many coins would be a healthy amount to invest in with just 2BTC? I don't want to spread my money into too many coins since I'll be holding 60% in each coin long term and only playing 40% in short, but then again I don't want to keep my portfolio too small putting myself in a 1 basket situation.

I'm currently looking at:

Siacoin < made 15% during the dip yesterday - wish I had my deposit in from Coinbase so I could've invested a lot more in the market dips, o well :/
Verge
Ark
Ardor
Antshares/NEO
Steem

Other coins I'm looking at as well:

BAT
Golem
Nxt
IOTA

Would appreciate any advice or input,
Cheers


All i need to say is that any coin you wish to put money into, do it intelligently and not be fooled by the "huge potentials" you have read somewhere or about one upcoming pump or the likes. Be sure the 2btc you are putting there is something you can afford to lose should in case that money does not come back considering the fact that there is no certainty in alt trading and also human factor is also something to consider.
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June 29, 2017, 09:06:00 AM
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I'm pretty new to trading, currently trying to digest as much information as possible - just have a few questions that I would like to get opinions on...

I'm looking to invest 2BTC into the market. Since my initial is pretty low, I plan on investing the majority of my money into alts. I want to play 60/40 with each coin I invest in, keeping 60% into long-term holds and using 40% for short... hopefully, to get my initial back to invest into bigger coins.

My question is how many coins would be a healthy amount to invest in with just 2BTC? I don't want to spread my money into too many coins since I'll be holding 60% in each coin long term and only playing 40% in short, but then again I don't want to keep my portfolio too small putting myself in a 1 basket situation.

I'm currently looking at:

Siacoin < made 15% during the dip yesterday - wish I had my deposit in from Coinbase so I could've invested a lot more in the market dips, o well :/
Verge
Ark
Ardor
Antshares/NEO
Steem

Other coins I'm looking at as well:

BAT
Golem
Nxt
IOTA

Would appreciate any advice or input,
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All i need to say is that any coin you wish to put money into, do it intelligently and not be fooled by the "huge potentials" you have read somewhere or about one upcoming pump or the likes. Be sure the 2btc you are putting there is something you can afford to lose should in case that money does not come back considering the fact that there is no certainty in alt trading and also human factor is also something to consider.
Trading honestly is not easy but there are many altcoin that actually high potencial to grow i am not always looking for ICO or any new altcoin for short term i am always choose above $500k marketcap or the top 20 altcoin which is more safe than the other altcoin there are some altcoin in top 20 that are good in short term ,
Since you have 2 btc even you are just stay in 3 altcoin which is have fast movement daily bitcoin. ETH and litecoin could high possibility that you can make a good profit in this 3 coin..

Than the other altcoin that actually it is hard to know if they can live for long term or they can live for short term.



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June 29, 2017, 09:12:39 AM
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It is important to learn the psychology of trading, because trader should control his emotions despite the changes in the market. Be concentrate and ready for actions. For effective trading you need – new experience, analysis, practice, inspiration and well-working plan.  But how to start? There are so useless information on Forex sites and books. It matters a good deal to have a knowledge from successful practitioner trader.  For example, this website - http://sdg-trade.net may give you an online education with systematic program by professional traders and free video course.
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June 29, 2017, 10:02:28 AM
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I won't be picking anything of those you have listed.
I don't want you blaming me afterwards when its price goes to hell. Pick what you want. Trust your instincts or maybe trust your knowledge about a certain coin. Done a lot of wrong decisions here but I won't give up into making profits from those altcoins. Good luck to you.
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July 01, 2017, 09:07:10 PM
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If you want an honest trading advice then believe only the ones that say everything is overbought right now. Stay away from altcoins until they have fully corrected. If you buy in now, it will probably result in paper losses, and it can be very frustrating looking at those in your portfolio.
Altcoin can be not like bitcoin as you expecting from altcoins. Altcoins are alternative of bitcoins but not that much power to break the record of bitcoins. So kindly try to go for bitcoin. If there is a bad days of bitcoin try to buy bitcoin and wait for the right time. It just a money circulation that how people are coming and going once again same process like federal bank.
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July 02, 2017, 02:59:51 AM
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What is the explanation of the price crash of all cryptos in these days, is it normal? all crashing?
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July 02, 2017, 03:48:00 AM
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no trading advice, please check here

don't trade for a year!

this strategy is really useful, if you trust Bitcoin, please never trade and just buy buy buy, keep and hold them, look for a right opportunity to dump! (such as now)

Yeah a lot of people already made big money from holding for years quite like with btc userd from then. And though now may be a good opportunity to dump, i'd still choose to hold. Who knows what may happen in the next few years, the forecasts are promising for the future of btc.

My plan is to hold 60% for the long term and use 40% for short term in every coin I invest in - hopefully, my short term gains will allow me to diversify my portfolio and create more long-term holdings.

Right now I'm just having issues with figuring out how many coins I should invest in w/ 2BTC - I don't want to thin my money out investing in a bunch of different coins, but at the same time I don't want to limit myself to just a couple.



I like your idea, sounds good to me and nothing to loose if we do it the same way as yours.
It is true that holding in a long terms was a very profitable more than 100%.
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July 15, 2017, 05:06:35 PM
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For now I suggest you to break trading. Did you hear information about bitcoin segwit / hardfork next month?
You should secure your BTC in a private wallet before you lose your BTC.

Maybe in september there will be many new coins that enter the market. Prepare your strategy to make a lot of profit. I think 25% for long term trading and 75% for short term trading is the best way.
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market is more unpredictable than ever just look at these past days
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Wow your plan seems to be very big. I'm not educated enough with altcoins but getting clear vision with your post and other replies here. As usual some positive and done neg replies. I think your long term plan looks good as every coin will pop up in long run with corrections in their techs. Keep it up.

Trading is for the people who are well knowledgeable in it. This is not advisable for the newbies, consequently every time there's a newbie asking for trading I most often said to learn and study first before proceeding in trading. But holding in a long term was a good idea Smiley
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Wow your plan seems to be very big. I'm not educated enough with altcoins but getting clear vision with your post and other replies here. As usual some positive and done neg replies. I think your long term plan looks good as every coin will pop up in long run with corrections in their techs. Keep it up.
Trading is for the people who are well knowledgeable in it. This is not advisable for the newbies, consequently every time there's a newbie asking for trading I most often said to learn and study first before proceeding in trading. But holding in a long term was a good idea Smiley
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all traders started being newbies, trading is for everyone, you need indeed basic knowledges for starting, but the rest you may catch up on time
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July 16, 2017, 04:44:37 PM
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market is more unpredictable than ever just look at these past days
How come and when does the market becomes predictable? Never right? This is the hardest thing as being as a trader at the same time as an investor on which we wont know on where do prices do go. If we did bought on a higher price then it eventually dumps out then we do really feel panic and might decide to sell for cheap on cutting loses. Telling and comparing past days price movements of all crypto. It feels like we are inside on an airplane and do crash to the ground gradually.

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July 16, 2017, 06:27:15 PM
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Personally  i have no experience more,Bitcoin trading which are usually learned only from experience.  The years of trial, error, successes, failures, gains and losses are very difficult to accumulate. These important tips were collected from our over 15 years of experience to be able to aid you in your trading.  The tips are absolutely free and they cover what we consider the three critical areas of trading; the market, the method, and the environment.
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July 16, 2017, 06:40:07 PM
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Everyone who got into alts and even BTC this semester are holding bags. Either that or sold at loss. The ones who sod more times at profit than loss are the winners. My self have some winners, and the loosers are in hold. Looking at the market long term some coins are good to go in right now if you must. For me  BTC, monero, DGB, XBY and KMD. But as stated above i don´t think they touched the bottom just yet.
This is probably true for the ones you are considering.

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July 16, 2017, 07:02:50 PM
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all traders started being newbies, trading is for everyone, you need indeed basic knowledges for starting, but the rest you may catch up on time
But we need to accept the fact that all the traders are not successful with their trading. Only those traders who are keep on updating their knowledge are finding success with trading.

We must start trading with demo accounts and keep on updating our knowledge. It must be the essential process while working in demo accounts so that we can become professional trader in more quicker time.
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July 17, 2017, 06:51:52 PM
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Always check a platform/site's knowledgebase.
Read and understand thoroughly before trading.
When in doubt, always ask the support team.

I.E

I trade mainly at Paxful.

I've read their knowledgebase and recently joined their admin mandated tutorials.

Before my first BTC bought, I asked them lots of question like how to activate Escrow service, rates, etc.
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