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June 27, 2017, 05:05:50 PM
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You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


Yes it could be table/bet limits those casino have or your bankroll. This is pure martingale and you might actually lost all you have when trying to recover your losses in this way. I have even seen 10 red streaks on roulette before  Grin
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June 27, 2017, 05:17:12 PM
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the questions is how much money needed to keep betting on black until the black comes out because you need unlimited money to running your strategy and i have to says too eventually you will lost all of your money before the black comes out
Mostly something like this would happen and i agree with you in order to win you will need lot of money and until one reaches his black or red it will surely be too late it will be better for him to not risk so much money on gambling as I'm sure it is not worth always
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June 27, 2017, 06:05:27 PM
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Martingale concept. This hasn't been proven to be effective especially in the long run and you would have to have quite a big bankroll to apply this. Usually works for gambling games that has 50/50 win loss chance but can be effective only in short term.

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June 27, 2017, 06:18:17 PM
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I`m not sure because that was long time ago, year more or less when I played roulette everyday and here is in what I`m not sure was it 23 or 27 loses on red. I remember that I saw 3 or 4 zero`s, so green, and rest was black, more then 0.3 bitcoins lost in that session I started with 0.1 mbtc and every next bet was x2 in the end I didn`t have enough for double bet and I lost because it was zero. And more then once I had over ten misses. I played roulette on betcoin.tm if someone remember that casino, they had really low minimal bet, now in almost all casinos minimal bet on roulette is 1 mBTC, so how many times you can miss:
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Just to get to 10 you need more then 1 bitcoin and to continue you need how much? And be aware some casinos have maximum bet.

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June 27, 2017, 06:45:17 PM
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You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


There is no strategy that would work 100% all the time, If there is a strategy that could win 100%, all casino would have already shut down their doors. There is two reason why this strategy of yours won't work, firstly you would need a super huge bankroll as I have seen 20 reds in a row before in a real casino, and there is also a table limits for outside bets in roulette, there will be a point which you eventually can't increase your base bet anymore if you lost many rounds in a row.

Secondly would be the house edge in roulette that gives the casino advantage over the players, because there is the Green 0, your winning chance is actually not 50% playing the black and red. The more rounds you play, the higher chance you would stand to lose all of your money to the casino because of the house edge.

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June 28, 2017, 06:42:11 AM
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Seriously you think this is the strategy to win in casinos . As most of the replies stated I'm also going to stick to their point this is a martingle strategy and you would alteast need 2430$ and you can gamble only 6 times so if you are willing to take this risk go ahead. Or try 9 times with bankroll of 2560$ and use the strategy of 10$ then 20$ etc.
Martingale strategy will not work in long term gambling. Many people tried this method and lost their money I don't know how the site will find out that we are using Martingale method when we use this method once the red number started until we lose everything the red numbers only come. Many people had this experience am I right? So don't waste your money on trying this method.
Using this on actual gambling site can be a terror they will quickly change their seeds so that you don't win. It is clearly mentioned in the thread in a casino martingle will surely never work if you try online. In casinos also most of them are fixed but for roulette there is a chance that this martingle may work but as i mentioned we will need a bankroll of atleast 3000$.
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June 28, 2017, 07:06:46 AM
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Seriously you think this is the strategy to win in casinos . As most of the replies stated I'm also going to stick to their point this is a martingle strategy and you would alteast need 2430$ and you can gamble only 6 times so if you are willing to take this risk go ahead. Or try 9 times with bankroll of 2560$ and use the strategy of 10$ then 20$ etc.
Martingale strategy will not work in long term gambling. Many people tried this method and lost their money I don't know how the site will find out that we are using Martingale method when we use this method once the red number started until we lose everything the red numbers only come. Many people had this experience am I right? So don't waste your money on trying this method.
Using this on actual gambling site can be a terror they will quickly change their seeds so that you don't win. It is clearly mentioned in the thread in a casino martingle will surely never work if you try online. In casinos also most of them are fixed but for roulette there is a chance that this martingle may work but as i mentioned we will need a bankroll of atleast 3000$.
If i gonna decide to use up this kind of strategy i would definitely play up on physical casinos because this method might somehow work if the house isnt rigged but you can definitely detect it when they are cheating on you compared on online casino you wont really know that they are rigged until you lose up all of your money. This strategy would last if you have big bankroll and you do set minimal bets.

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June 28, 2017, 07:41:25 AM
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You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


You need huge money to win by doing this way but you right, to choosen do this strategy in roulette games. There are only three possibilities that will come out in the roulette game that is red, black and green but for red and black have an 80% chance out in every games. i never try to do this strategy but just looking into my experience and my opinion maybe you can win your bet less than 10x game round.

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June 28, 2017, 07:44:48 AM
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its the best way to lose your money.  Martingale will NEVER work in long term

Exactly, I don't rely on this strategy as this is going to triple your losses. And even you will have unlimited bankroll, you will do this cycle again and again. Because even you win, what you will do next? Back at the low amount and will do the same thing? Remember the house always win in this strategy.

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June 30, 2017, 03:30:34 AM
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You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



That's basically martin gale! If you don't know yet that strategy will never win in the long run.

It can win but you have to have these assumptions to be true:

1. you have unlimited bankroll
2. There is no table limit

Those two are never present, ever! So basically it loses when you,

1. ran out of bankroll because the bet is so big already
2. you reached the table limits
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June 30, 2017, 03:40:30 AM
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This method will not work well it can lose you a lot and i think they have bet limit so if reach that limits of bet and its still lose result you can't double it again back instead you lose and start a new martingale again can be result to lose more bets..
This already tested by many gamblers here in me never had a chance to make profit with this method and i think this is a bad strategy even you are betting 1 sat it can be result to lose a lot..
much better to gamble with happiness and think you are just having fun its more chance to win profit than the martingale strategy..



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June 30, 2017, 07:04:49 AM
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OP just described a martin gale strategy. Though it is not the strict martin gale system where you double your bet every loss, this is still one of those and is a modified version. You can see that these kind of strategy never worked, if it did then no casinos would have stood till now. There is no winning strategy that would win 100% of the time, it could win, but wait for a 20 game losing streak see what I am talking about.
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June 30, 2017, 07:33:43 AM
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OP just described a martin gale strategy. Though it is not the strict martin gale system where you double your bet every loss, this is still one of those and is a modified version. You can see that these kind of strategy never worked, if it did then no casinos would have stood till now. There is no winning strategy that would win 100% of the time, it could win, but wait for a 20 game losing streak see what I am talking about.
Yes there are plenty of modified martingale strategies are available everywhere.
Personally I have tried thousands of them approximately, but never find any differences from my usual dicing results.

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July 01, 2017, 06:31:37 AM
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You'd need to have an unlimited bankroll, even with, say, 10k it's still likely that you go bust.
It's not that uncommon to see 8 or 9 turn losing streaks and this method requires even more funds than regular Martingale.
With my type of luck,  I will go about 15 streaks without winning and I don't have that amount of money to play this strategy,  will rather bet it on soccer games.

That's what I'm thinking. Martingale method is good but we must know what game will we apply it. I'm using martingale on 3 dice with 6 colors game. 7 losing streak is actually my limit because 8 to 9 is a huge amount of money. You must have also the skills to analyze and pure luck to win.

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July 01, 2017, 09:31:56 AM
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OP just described a martin gale strategy. Though it is not the strict martin gale system where you double your bet every loss, this is still one of those and is a modified version. You can see that these kind of strategy never worked, if it did then no casinos would have stood till now. There is no winning strategy that would win 100% of the time, it could win, but wait for a 20 game losing streak see what I am talking about.
Yes there are plenty of modified martingale strategies are available everywhere.
Personally I have tried thousands of them approximately, but never find any differences from my usual dicing results.

All kind of martingale had same bad result in the result when cross our limit. In the beginning of this journey I also was very curios to win huge amount from gambling and use so many type of trick but always gave all money back after winning good amount.
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July 01, 2017, 09:53:12 AM
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You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



Martingale strategy will kill your balance sooner or later. Never use this strategy unless you have unlimited bankroll.
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July 01, 2017, 01:24:57 PM
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I'm afraid that is just like martingale or even worst since you are escalating faster, and not just doubling after losses. You will run out of money or hit table limits very fast, so yes, that is not a very good betting strategy.

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July 01, 2017, 03:06:08 PM
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You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



Table limits will stop you but also at some point you can't triple your bet anymore because you run out of money. This is similar to martingale strategy where you double your bet after every loss, but you will run out of money at some point. The odds really don't change.
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July 01, 2017, 08:26:51 PM
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I don't know if martingale qualifies as a strategy.

I'm no pro gambler but would have to think watching the table and looking for trends in red versus black spins would be a better strategy than ante up on loss or double down on win.
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July 01, 2017, 08:36:36 PM
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I said many times and I will say it again martingale do not work! With bet limit you can't push martingale until the end even if you are a millionaire. How many times you can miss the bet on 33% chances to win is probably 20+, and here on forum there is people that have some amazing stories about their losing strike's.
I like to play progressive but if I gone to deep I'm stopping and changing the game, I don't have huge bankroll and martingale in most cases leads to 0 balance.



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