Electron Cash not showing balance after importing my Electrum seed

[Fakhoury]

Hey all,

I've installed Bitcoin Core 0.14.2 on my PC along with Electrum 2.9.2

I've sent my funds from the core client to electrum then way back to the core.

Afterwards, I've imported the seed of the electrum to the Electron Cash 2.9.2 that I've got installed on the virtual machine I'm running.

The Electron Cash is now showing 0 BCC there.

What I could had made wrong ?

Thanks in advance.

- Fak

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[Niya]

You should have had BTC in your Electrum wallet before the fork (August 1), not after. This is why you see 0 Bitcoin Cash now.

[youngwebs]

take the private key (dumprivkey) from core where your coins where on august 1.
Import this key in electroncash and you should good to go..

(note, I assume you have send back your BTC back into a new address, otherwise your BTC might be at risk after importing the private key in electron cash.

[Fakhoury]

take the private key (dumprivkey) from core where your coins where on august 1.
Import this key in electroncash and you should good to go..

(note, I assume you have send back your BTC back into a new address, otherwise your BTC might be at risk after importing the private key in electron cash.

I've got the following error

unsupported operand type(s) for *: 'NoneType' and 'int'

[jackg]

Hey all,

I've installed Bitcoin Core 0.14.2 on my PC along with Electrum 2.9.2

I've sent my funds from the core client to electrum then way back to the core.

Afterwards, I've imported the seed of the electrum to the Electron Cash 2.9.2 that I've got installed on the virtual machine I'm running.

The Electron Cash is now showing 0 BCC there.

What I could had made wrong ?

Thanks in advance.

- Fak

If this is the fairly common error, then there should be a transaction at the top that is unconfirmed - if this is the case, then either wait for that transaction to be rejected or sweep the coins. Alternatively, wait for your transaction to be rejected or manually select the server that supports electron cash.

If the coins were in bitcoin core while the fork was happening, then, you need to export all of your private keys and sweep them into your electron cash wallet - (if you have enough bitcoins, DO THIS OFFLINE COMPLETELY).

[HCP]

I've installed Bitcoin Core 0.14.2 on my PC along with Electrum 2.9.2
I've sent my funds from the core client to electrum then way back to the core.
Afterwards, I've imported the seed of the electrum to the Electron Cash 2.9.2 that I've got installed on the virtual machine I'm running.
The Electron Cash is now showing 0 BCC there.
What I could had made wrong ?

Sounds like you may be a little confused as to how the fork and splitting coins works...

To access your BCC, you need to know where your coins were on 1st August when the fork happened. Were your coins in Bitcoin Core or were they in Electrum? When did you install Core and when did you move your funds from Core to Electrum?

[brumisateur]

I do not understand the whole complication.
What I have done is to go to my electrum, type in my password to get the seed. And then copy paste the seed to Electron to re-create all the addresses and keys in Electron.
Why not just do this?

Well, actually I did just that an now I have unfortunately a lot of transactions but no BCC.
anybody can explain how it works and why it needs to be so complicated?

[HCP]

You will only have BCC if you had Bitcoins in that Electrum wallet at the time of the fork on Aug 1st.

If you moved BTC prior to Aug 1st = no BCC
If you put BTC in that wallet after Aug 1st = no BCC

if you had BTC when fork happened on Aug 1st = BCC amount equal to BTC balance on Aug 1st

BCC will only show in a BCC wallet (like ElectronCash or BitcoinABC)

[brumisateur]

Yep, I had BTC on the wallet during the fork.

I have used my seed and recreated the wallet using my seed -> no BCC -> Problem
I have exported and imported my BTC private keys in Electron "manually" -> BCC show up -> Now it works

I am still confused why the one worked and not the other.

So somehow the BTC/BCC as per August 1st were on a private key that was not recreated using my seed but that was still included in my list of private keys in the Electrum wallet

So far my understanding of the seed has always been that it would (re-)create ALL private keys used in the past, now, and the future.
This seems not to be the case. It seems to recreate only the private keys that currently hold a balance.

Is this the correct interpretation of the difference between "keys created by the seed" vs. "list of private keys in Electrum"?

As well, any specific explanation about this "we do not trust Electron, so we move our Bitcoins around thing"?

[HCP]

Sounds like the seed you have, is not for the wallet you're currently using! If you can use the "Wallet - Seed" menu option in Electrum, I suggest you use it and double check what the seed for your wallet actually is!

Also, double check the addresses that the seed generates in ElectronCash, if they're not the same addresses as from Electrum, you definitely don't have the right seed.