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July 01, 2017, 08:47:58 PM
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Whenever I see a campaign and in its rule "no red trust members are accepted". It is like you are no more important no matter the rank you are. How can I avoid it completely?,
And in the other hand, how can one receive positive trust  from default members or anybody?

Just don't want to fall a snare of having red trust I guess its not only me.
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July 01, 2017, 09:47:38 PM
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How can I avoid it completely?,

Don't do anything to get negative trust feedback. Scamming, spamming, excessive trolling are plagiarism are some of them. As to which deserve negative trust and which don't vary from person to person. But users in DT trust list won't do anything "excessive". Else, they will be removed.

And in the other hand, how can one receive positive trust  from default members or anybody?
  -snip-

Be honest, contribute to forum and successful transaction. Point it out if I missed any!

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July 01, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
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Just dont do bad here in the forum. dont do scam or over trolling here in the forum. always post subjects with sense and please dont spam here. always follow the rules and regulation and you are good here.
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July 01, 2017, 09:51:55 PM
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I think most people's red trust stems from asking for a loan with no collateral

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July 01, 2017, 10:21:39 PM
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I think most people's red trust stems from asking for a loan with no collateral

You will get it if you are Jr. Member and below or if you don't have any successful deals and you ask a loan of high amount with no collateral. If you got negative trust feedback for loan with no collateral as a Newbie, over time, it can be removed or at least, changed to neutral.

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July 01, 2017, 10:54:43 PM
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Most of red trust come from scamming and asking for a loan which you clearly can not payback ( no collateral ) . About trolling and spamming you may get red trust if you really push it and that is for the DT member who caught you to decide .  For positive trust you will get it when you do trades and contribute to the community.

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July 02, 2017, 01:47:37 AM
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How can I avoid it completely?,
Don't post anything.


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July 02, 2017, 02:22:01 AM
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Just observe if someone is trying to scam someone and avoid him/her at all cost, however you might get confused all the time if oneself is a scammer. DT is just a thing someone with a positive trust could turn into a scammer but I'm not saying that red trust is a saint one just try to thing everyone in this forum is Default
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July 02, 2017, 02:24:45 AM
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You're already on my ignore list, so you're probably a shitposter anyway, but spamming and trolling generally won't earn you red trust.  As has already been mentioned (and will continue to be repeated by shit posters for as long as you allow this thread to go on), most negative trust happens when you ask for asshole loans or actually scam.  So don't do either of those and you should do OK.  I'd work on the quality of your posts and perhaps do more reading than posting.
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July 02, 2017, 06:43:48 AM
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My nice 37+ rating (earned over 2-3 years) turned orange -1 without having ever had business with that "man" immediately.
Your rating was 0. None of the users that have left you positive ratings are part of the default trust system (depth 1 and 2), therefore their ratings don't affect you score unless you have a custom list (which seems to be the case here).

Remove them from your trust list or put a "~" in front of "Default Trust" in your trust list and their ratings won't count toward your score.

That's what I'm reading from Lauda's comment here (from another thread).

Oh, and don't do anything to earn negative trust. But with that said the trust system, while good for trade transaction decision making is completely subjective and frequently abused in non-trade scenarios. If someone doesn't like the cut of your jib they can just leave you a bad trust rating and its there forever without any consideration for whether it's accurate or vindictive.

If people take your comments out of context they can leave you negative trust AND put a value on it that's completely made up (or at best exaggerated).

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July 02, 2017, 06:58:10 AM
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Remove them from your trust list or put a "~" in front of "Default Trust" in your trust list and their ratings won't count toward your score.

That's not true.  Their rating won't count towards the score you can see yourself.

Everyone else will still see the negative rating if it is placed there by DT, no matter what your trust list is.

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July 02, 2017, 07:46:16 AM
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I think you can avoid having it if you are not going to spam in this forum and wouldn't troll,scam or even promote some scam sites,
That's what I think I got an negative trust before because I was wearing a signature code and they said that I was promoting some scam coin or something.
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July 02, 2017, 07:25:26 PM
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  -snip-
How can I avoid it completely?,

Don't do anything to get negative trust feedback. Scamming, spamming, excessive trolling are plagiarism are some of them. As to which deserve negative trust and which don't vary from person to person. But users in DT trust list won't do anything "excessive". Else, they will be removed.

And in the other hand, how can one receive positive trust  from default members or anybody?
  -snip-

Be honest, contribute to forum and successful transaction. Point it out if I missed any!
This spamming, is it when you give a short sentence but not up to20 characters, or is it just like "hi, bye"etc?

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July 02, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
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Just dont do bad here in the forum. dont do scam or over trolling here in the forum. always post subjects with sense and please dont spam here. always follow the rules and regulation and you are good here.
Sorry MA, I really don't know what you mean by "over trolling" Huh

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July 02, 2017, 07:31:23 PM
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I think most people's red trust stems from asking for a loan with no collateral

You will get it if you are Jr. Member and below or if you don't have any successful deals and you ask a loan of high amount with no collateral. If you got negative trust feedback for loan with no collateral as a Newbie, over time, it can be removed or at least, changed to neutral.
Does it mean a member rank and above must have a collateral before asking for loan? And what kind of thing can be used as collateral before or after receiving the loan Huh

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For positive trust you will get it when you do trades and contribute to the community.
Contributing to the community is a donator right?

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July 02, 2017, 07:38:10 PM
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How can I avoid it completely?,
Don't post anything.
But if I don't post, my rank does not upgrade, I can't participate in any campaign or any activities carried out in the forum, no increase in posts and activities and more.Right?

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Don't try to sell your account.
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July 02, 2017, 07:47:57 PM
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I think you can avoid having it if you are not going to spam in this forum and wouldn't troll,scam or even promote some scam sites,
That's what I think I got an negative trust before because I was wearing a signature code and they said that I was promoting some scam coin or something.
Yeah, I was in such kind of campaign like that.

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July 02, 2017, 07:50:47 PM
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Don't try to sell your account.
Selling of account will give a red trust Huh
But... Huh

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Posting five consecutive times like you did just above in this thread is not a good idea if you want to stay here for a long time...
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For positive trust you will get it when you do trades and contribute to the community.
Contributing to the community is a donator right?
Not really. Contributing to the community means you are helping forum by posting something useful and helpful to other people.

How can I avoid it completely?,
Don't post anything.
But if I don't post, my rank does not upgrade, I can't participate in any campaign or any activities carried out in the forum, no increase in posts and activities and more.Right?
You right. That's the way how to avoid it completely mate.  


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July 03, 2017, 04:08:29 AM
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How can I avoid it completely?,

Don't do anything to get negative trust feedback. Scamming, spamming, excessive trolling are plagiarism are some of them. As to which deserve negative trust and which don't vary from person to person. But users in DT trust list won't do anything "excessive". Else, they will be removed.

And in the other hand, how can one receive positive trust  from default members or anybody?
  -snip-

Be honest, contribute to forum and successful transaction. Point it out if I missed any!
This spamming, is it when you give a short sentence but not up to20 characters, or is it just like "hi, bye"etc?

There is no "minimum" length for a post. It depends on the thread or the post you are replying to even if it is just a word, like "yes". You won't get a red trust for spamming/trolling unless you do it a "big" way.

I forgot to tell you that posting referral links to ponzis or add it into your signature or encourage/advertise ponzi sites in any other way will get you negative trust feedback.

I think most people's red trust stems from asking for a loan with no collateral

You will get it if you are Jr. Member and below or if you don't have any successful deals and you ask a loan of high amount with no collateral. If you got negative trust feedback for loan with no collateral as a Newbie, over time, it can be removed or at least, changed to neutral.
Does it mean a member rank and above must have a collateral before asking for loan? And what kind of thing can be used as collateral before or after receiving the loan Huh

No. You can ask for loans without collateral if you had successful trades or if amount needed is very small.

Collateral - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0

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July 03, 2017, 08:05:26 AM
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Whenever I see a campaign and in its rule "no red trust members are accepted". It is like you are no more important no matter the rank you are. How can I avoid it completely?,
And in the other hand, how can one receive positive trust  from default members or anybody?

Just don't want to fall a snare of having red trust I guess its not only me.
Thanks. 

That's right. Most, if not all, campaigns that I have come across here require that participants should not have negative trust. I think you will not be having problem with trusts if you are doing everything pretty honest. One-liners and out-of-topic posts should also be avoided.
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July 04, 2017, 07:28:47 PM
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Remove them from your trust list or put a "~" in front of "Default Trust" in your trust list and their ratings won't count toward your score.

That's not true.  Their rating won't count towards the score you can see yourself.

Everyone else will still see the negative rating if it is placed there by DT, no matter what your trust list is.

Shit, sorry. Didn't mean to offer incorrect information. I realize I didn't quote the comment I was referring to in my original post. Here's that quote below:

My nice 37+ rating (earned over 2-3 years) turned orange -1 without having ever had business with that "man" immediately.
Your rating was 0. None of the users that have left you positive ratings are part of the default trust system (depth 1 and 2), therefore their ratings don't affect you score unless you have a custom list (which seems to be the case here).

SO according to Lauda if none of the positive ratings are part of the default trust system they won't affect the score - is this ONLY applicable to positive ratings? So any negative rating impacts the score regardless of whether the negative rating is coming from someone in your trust network? Thanks.

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My nice 37+ rating (earned over 2-3 years) turned orange -1 without having ever had business with that "man" immediately.
Your rating was 0. None of the users that have left you positive ratings are part of the default trust system (depth 1 and 2), therefore their ratings don't affect you score unless you have a custom list (which seems to be the case here).

SO according to Lauda if none of the positive ratings are part of the default trust system they won't affect the score - is this ONLY applicable to positive ratings? So any negative rating impacts the score regardless of whether the negative rating is coming from someone in your trust network? Thanks.

You see on the score only ratings from people inside your trust network, whether they are positive or negative. Default trust being, from their name, in your trust network, their ratings will be reflected in the score of anyone, except if you exclude them from your trust network.
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July 04, 2017, 08:21:54 PM
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Posting five consecutive times like you did just above in this thread is not a good idea if you want to stay here for a long time...
Thank you very much Sir, that has been noted.

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SO according to Lauda if none of the positive ratings are part of the default trust system they won't affect the score - is this ONLY applicable to positive ratings? So any negative rating impacts the score regardless of whether the negative rating is coming from someone in your trust network? Thanks.
The same applies to negative ratings. Those left by non DT members (depth 1 and 2) are not visible by default and do not affect your rating, by default. Obviously if someone wanted to make them affect someone's rating from their view, all they'd have to do is add the person who left the rating to their own list. What is confusing to most is that this change of view, for a single user, does not have any effect on what anyone else sees (as long as we are not talking about additions to DT).

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Whenever I see a campaign and in its rule "no red trust members are accepted". It is like you are no more important no matter the rank you are. How can I avoid it completely?,
And in the other hand, how can one receive positive trust  from default members or anybody?

Just don't want to fall a snare of having red trust I guess its not only me.
Thanks. 

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Whenever I see a campaign and in its rule "no red trust members are accepted". It is like you are no more important no matter the rank you are. How can I avoid it completely?,
And in the other hand, how can one receive positive trust  from default members or anybody?

Just don't want to fall a snare of having red trust I guess its not only me.
Thanks. 

All of us dont want to have that red trust. You can avoid it as they all said no spam. in other word just construct as of your opinion for what is topic yet. Be normal when you are at the forum just like talking personal no copy paste just like that.

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Remove them from your trust list or put a "~" in front of "Default Trust" in your trust list and their ratings won't count toward your score.

That's not true.  Their rating won't count towards the score you can see yourself.

Everyone else will still see the negative rating if it is placed there by DT, no matter what your trust list is.



Sir, what is the verdict with people who have red trusts?
Ban? Btw, I have no intentions to become one.
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Sir, what is the verdict with people who have red trusts?
Ban? Btw, I have no intentions to become one.
Ratings have nothing to do with forum moderation, thus they also have nothing to do with bans.

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July 10, 2017, 03:00:42 PM
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thank you all for the advice, I appreciate them all. Smiley

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