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"In times of universal lies to tell the truth - it extremism”
                                                                              
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"The national war
   The Holy War "


     These are the words of the famous song of the Great Patriotic War, the population of the Soviet Union, calling for the protection of the country that invaded their territory Nazis. Epithet of the sacred - is the religion, and the Muslims' people's holy war "is not nothing but a jihad, jihad is the same who are now interested parties, chasing, especially their own, selfish political objectives, trying to intimidate the people of Europe and America, the virtual Islamic conspiracy, intentionally looking for the roots of terrorism in religion. So why in one case, a holy war is a positive sense, and in another (Afghanistan, Chechnya) - negative?
    
     In an effort to hide from the international community the real causes of today's terrorism and deflect blame for his appearance, interested parties, using shortcuts, replace true with false notions. Moreover, they want to present themselves a sort of defenders of Western civilization against Islam - extremist, according to their interpretation of religious ideology that threatens the value of democracy. By the way, I want to mention that any religious dogma is inherently anti-democratic and, as history shows, when the clergy came to political power (medieval Europe, Iran, Afghanistan), it was judged obscurantism. Therefore, in the civilized countries of the separation of religion and state. Islam, along with Christianity, Buddhism and Judaism, is one of the major religions, and to accuse Islam, and with it a quarter of the world's population, of aiding and abetting international terrorism or, even more, because of its appearance, at least, unwise. That occurrence, because the modern international terrorism, a phenomenon of our time and does not go from the past. Not traceable connection between the emergence of Islam as a religious ideology and terrorism as a phenomenon. Yes, terrorism is associated with certain countries, whose people practice Islam, but the causes of terrorism lie in a completely different plane. In addition, deliberate on the part of interested or mistaken search of the roots of terrorism in religion poses a great threat to the world community and opens a Pandora's box from which you will start to spread through the world of religious fanaticism, hatred, and that may in fact lead to a confrontation of civilizations. But it achieves this latter-day prophets such as Osama bin Laden and Tehran bigots, for an open confrontation between East and West will be a justification for terrorist activities for the first and in the desire to have a nuclear weapon for the latter.
  
      They say a lie repeated many times becomes the truth. "There are other version: a lie can take off like a chicken, but it can not fly." I do not presume to say which of these sayings is more correct, but the fact that a lie can bring a lot of trouble - no doubt. The only thing that puts everything in its place this time, it is severely punished for the evil committed by the lie, because you have to pay for everything, so the world works, but time can not bring back the lies ruined the lives and destinies.
  
    To get to the truth, to find sources of international terrorism, to understand its causes, which, without a doubt, there should only operate on facts, discard prejudice and with great caution in generalizations, terms and labels, and sometimes the insults of the whole people, or religious denomination.
    First of all, we need to understand the terminology, which had grown terrorism. Terrorism - is all that is connected with terror. The history of war shows that terror is an integral part of a military strategy. Especially clearly demonstrated by the Second World War, in which, in order to intimidate and suppress the enemy's morale, the two warring sides used out terror directed mainly against unprotected civilians. At the same time, to achieve maximum effect, that is the greatest possible number of victims, special emphasis on stealth and surprise. Remember, the Germans bombed the Minsk and Coventry and Dresden and Leipzig allies. Alas, the U.S. atomic bomb brought an unexpected death in the early morning hours the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were designed specifically for them. The suddenness and deceit are the first element in the success of any military establishment, which in this case is different from the act of terrorism, produced by a suicide bomber in the subway, plane or bus, except that the scale and the number of victims. The same principle of total terror was laid out in the strategy of the Cold War, when all the big cities were the target for nuclear warheads, intercontinental missiles.
    
    We understand and respect the guerrillas, but the methods of guerrilla warfare all know it's an ambush, sudden attack and escape, the attack finally. In view of the enormous difference in armament and technical equipment, men can not resist the regular army in open combat. The strength of the guerrillas usually at a higher moral motivation, in comparison with the occupiers. Support of the people (in fact, the guerrillas it is the people) and the exclusive readiness for self-sacrifice that is completely absent from the invaders, leading to a long, exhausting struggle, in which the aggressor is ultimately defeated.
  
   This brings us to a very important point about terminology. Remember the King George hotel, exploded in the era of the British mandate. For the British killed there it was a terrorist attack, produced by Jewish terrorists (or, if you prefer, the guerrillas). That is one and the same fact undermining the hotel has two very different moral interpretations. If Russian, put a bomb in the path of a German train, a hero-partisan, the Chechens and Afghans, defeated the Russian convoy called dushmans, Mujahideen bandits, in a word terrorists. It should be noted that after September 11, the Chechens, which the media usually called militants, hung an additional label. From now on, according to the Kremlin version, they are declared international terrorists in order to find sympathy and understanding from the affected States. Most interestingly, it's actually happened. Gaby Bush, who had to spawn a lot of political mistakes, get hooked KGB officer Putin, giving last opportunity without regard to the West and to fearlessly continue the practice of "soaking in the toilet" at the state level. President of the Russian gangster slang is consistent with the action of the Russian army in Chechnya. Moreover, with the acquiescence of the Bush, Putin emasculated and nearly wiped out all of the democratic achievements of Yeltsin era. Had the New York tragedy during the Russian intervention in Afghanistan, and Afghan guerrillas would certainly international terrorists. The Kremlin is at the origins of the legend about the invasion of Islam and strongly supports it, because it is not a large part of the collapsed before the end of the empire inhabited by peoples professing Islam.
    
    For two hundred years before Russia invaded Afghanistan company into the Caucasus. Note, not mountaineers descended from the mountains, and the Russian came to him and not with bread and salt. Sword and fire Russian mountaineers conquered, as evidenced by the archival documents of the eloquent message of the king's general AP Ermolova Alexander - in 1819 during the war in the Caucasus: I did march in the mountains, using the general terror and flight, and destroyed several villages, all in the fields of grain and have not met a single person on the road, to the extent cleared the enemy. "There the same: It was ordered to destroy the village, and by the way, broke most beautiful town up to 800 homes, Ulu-called Aya. Hence, with such haste ran residents that left several infants guys. Busting needed as a proud monument of punishment and no one has hitherto not not submissive people, to the edification of all the nations, to whom some examples of horror are convenient to impose restraint. " (Notes AP Ermolova, while operating costs).
    
     There is no need to comment on such "heroism" of the Russian troops, I will mention only two centuries ago that the situation is not much different from punitive action that holds the Russian military in Chechnya today. In fact, this den of terrorists international scale is beyond the walls of the Kremlin. Terror is when Russian tanks crushed the people in Budapest, Prague and Riga, terror, when it sapper shovels soldiers killed women in Tbilisi, terror, when it was deprived of Russian life, millions of Afghans, terror, it is hard when artillery and aircraft leveled to the ground and Bamut, Samashki, with orders to violence came from the same people in the Kremlin, which include a former Communist and KGB man Putin. But with such a fighter c terror, humanist and specialist soak in the toilet, and just as suddenly it turned out, and circumcision, and cooperate President Bush to combat international terrorism. Particularly striking flagrant lawlessness by the Public Prosecutor Russian proposal for the punishment of relatives of Chechen fighters - a kind of Russian version of the Sicilian vendetta or state terrorism with a "human face".
  
    Moscow was well aware that as long as people have ineradicable and his desire for freedom, so defiant people of the Caucasus have been deported three times and twice under the communists, despite the fact that the father of Communism, Karl Marx put the example of the struggle for the freedom of the peoples of the Caucasus.
     Independence, which announced the Chechen people through democratic reforms in Russia, turned to him out terror on the part of Russian, which shows the ruins of Grozny, reminiscent of Stalingrad, and the ashes, completely wiped out as a result of the bombing and Bamut, Samashki, no different from the destroyed Coventry . Hundreds of thousands of dead, uninterrupted sweep, which disappear after all, they are capable of bearing arms, military bullying type of Colonel Budanov, that's the price you paid for the little people desire to be free. To silence the voice of truth, the Kremlin authorities do not stop even in the accomplishment terrorist attack outside Russia (murder Zandarbiev).
  
    Evil can only cause harm. The war waged by Russia, turned to her string of terrorist attacks by Chechens, Nord-Ost "and Beslan. Way, the events associated with the Nord-Ost" is significant because it opened the true face of President Putin, for whom freedom of speech is as proved an obstacle in the fight against terrorism, that is to say of strangling its citizens. "Nord-Ost" can be taken as a milestone or reference date announcements Putin-out war with publicity and turning back to totalitarianism. And how could it be otherwise - the empire of democracy is contraindicated! The massacre of the Russian government over the people he disliked (Politkovskaya, Litvinenko) methods is quite relevant to terrorist exemplifies the very evil that lurks behind the high walls of the Kremlin. The revival of totalitarianism in Russia would again lead to the recent past, the East-West confrontation. This cowboy Bush cannot understand.
    
    Next on terminology, say, the right to have the Afghans, like the Russian, to declare a holy war (jihad), at a time when Russian limited "contingent, fulfilling their internationalist duty" and using the most modern weapons, tried to turn their country into an appendage of the Russian regular cotton Empire. Russian soldier-internationalist (or soldier on international affairs, that one and the same), sowed death and destruction, leaving eight million Afghans died, and was in their eyes, by none other than the most that on is not, an international terrorist, and if account of religion, it is also a Christian, by analogy with the Islamic. Let me ask you then, who on whom attacked? Election forgetfulness Putin's intention to save the empire from collapse, and then restored to former borders, that's the main reason why the West intimidation international terrorism, which is due to short-term considerations are awarded another epithet - Islamic.
    
    A very important argument, convicting the Kremlin lies about the worldwide threat of Islamic extremism is to help Russia in the implementation of Iran's nuclear program, which pursues only one goal - the creation of the atomic bomb. In the presence of vast natural energy resources in the form of oil and gas waste facilities, in general, a poor country in the construction of a nuclear reactor, ostensibly for an alternative form of energy, devoid of expediency and against this background that all the assurances of Tehran and Moscow, a purely peaceful uses reactor look ridiculous. It is noteworthy that Moscow has always had the greatest respect to the totalitarian regimes, whether fascist, communist, or to his new species in a religious guise. In the face of the Islamic Republic of Iran last colonial empire found itself worthy of a political ally, who is by nature rabid enemy of democracy. Kremlin politicians 'concerns' invasion of Islam, does not bother the opposite effect, contributing to the attainment of the Iranian obscurantist terrible weapons. There is not apparent on the face of the paradox. The fact that Russia and Iran share common geopolitical interests, and then, in the rapprochement with Iran, the Kremlin sees an adequate response to the expansion of NATO to the countries that were in the recent past, the western colonies of the Soviet empire. That is why Tehran has remained silent on the genocide conducted against fellow Russian from Chechnya. This again reveals the lie of the World Islamic conspiracy. The transfer into the hands of religious fanatics of Tehran's nuclear technology, that's what actually constitutes a threat to peace, not the liberation struggle of the peoples of the Caucasus.
  
    Terrorism in Russia is a consequence of the colonial war in the Caucasus and for the international it can be taken only if we take into account that the war is between the Russian people and the Chechen people and nothing more. Moscow takes on Chechen freedom fighters label of international terrorists to mislead the public opinion with the Jesuit order: first, to turn them into criminals, led by some kind of mythical foreign terrorist organization by the World Islamic conspiracy, second, to present their part of the common enemy, the dangerous both for Russia and for the United States, and third, to find sympathy, understanding and support for the protection of Western civilization from the barbarians. "
    
     But let me ask you, but what about 11? There is certainly the work of international terrorists. Yes, but not faceless international terrorists, and specifically, the same Arabs who, in response to Israel's self-guided missiles launched from F-16, used at least accurate weapon - a weapon of desperation, blowing himself among the Jews in the crowded streets of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, in buses and restaurants. Weapons of despair was also used by the Japanese in World War II against the American fleet in the Pacific. Kamikaze pilots were sent planes packed with explosives into the aircraft carriers, which by its size is not inferior to the skyscrapers of New York, America and be closer, nothing would deter the temptation to send suicide bombers flying bomb in the skyscraper, anticipating, so on September 11. Here's the translation, the moralists would be hard to argue against such action on the part of Japan, especially after the terrible tragedy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the tragedy that is still no unambiguous assessment. Then interested parties today, seeing the roots of terrorism in Islam, nothing to do but would like to be ranked Shinto bad religion. Weakness, but the greatest motivation is the cause of death of soldiers (kamikaze suicide bombers) and religion in this case is not the cause of self-sacrifice.
  
     President Bush, having the opportunity at any time to lower the curtain bloody spectacle, watched impassively from overseas dramas, where the blood is flowing not a sham, as in, familiar to him, Hollywood blockbusters, and most that do not gorge on the real thing.
    Because of historical circumstances for the past half-century part of the Palestinian people under occupation, while others are dispersed as refugees in the neighboring countries, and if the Chechens in Russia are formally by its citizens, the Palestinians, the so-called controlled areas (ie occupied) are not. They have no one at all. The only right that is granted to them, and that only a special, carefully selected category, it is with permission from the authorities to leave the reservation to the heavy work for starvation wages. Do not presume to predict what will happen if the victorious countries occupied by Germany and Japan, have driven the Germans and the Japanese people to a state in which there are Palestinians and Chechens.
  
     Chronic Middle East Arab-Israeli conflict is the generator of terrorism, both in Israel and for its chapels. Since the killing of Palestinians, Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics, the struggle between Arabs and Jews waged around the world, and the suffering and neutral state. That blows up the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, the hotels in Istanbul, the aircraft are captured and held hostage with no end in sight. Israeli security services across borders, and through acts of terrorism are dealing Palestinian terrorists. Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, who signed the peace agreement with the Palestinians, was killed in a terrorist attack committed by a Jew. It shows how deeply hurt Israeli society in a pathological unwillingness to see the Palestinians free. For twenty years, Israel has violated Lebanese sovereignty, while fighting with the Palestinians, which by analogy with the Chechens can be called bandits and terrorists, but the essence is the same, these bandits are fighting for the freedom of their homeland. They want the occupiers withdraw their troops and this is the main condition for ending the war.
  
    All long been clear that the key to the Palestinian issue is at the White House in Washington, however, he became president, Bush pulled away from the desire to deal with this problem. Bush blithely thought that America, being a belligerent ally of Israel, is completely safe, and made a mistake. The war took an ally of Israel crossed the ocean. The American President in time is not taken care of the lightning rod and storm forming over America's long, broke out on September 11. But instead of being close to start solving the Arab-Israeli conflict, Bush comes up with a pill in the form of a long-playing "road map" and was up to the war in Iraq, having made the following political mistake. As a result, the theater of war in the Middle East is expanding. If the Americans quite easily given the victory over the dictator of Baghdad, now that the situation in Iraq is beginning to develop into a popular resistance to the Islamic world conspiracy legionnaires can safely classify and Iraqi terrorists. Bush naively believes that democracy can be pinned on the bayonets of marines and presented as a gift to the people who do not understand its value. It's like, what to bring to the house of a religious Jew as a treat of roasted pig.
  
     The only viable option for saving mankind from war, generating terror, it is a political solution of international conflicts in accordance with the norms of morality and conscience, are equally understood by all religions. That interested parties who caused blossomed and terrorism, intimidate the world community to the war of civilizations, are calling for a new Crusade, trying to incite hatred on ethnic and religious grounds, a danger to the World. To get rid of this terrible disease today, such as terrorism, it would be necessary to treat the disease, not its appearance. Difficult to explain Washington's passivity and unwillingness to really address the Palestinian issue, which for more than half a century, bleeds and metastasize like a cancer, sprawling all over the world, condemns not only the American people, but other people, unwittingly associated with this problem, a perpetual fear and concerns.
  
        Seeds of Evil, which sowed the Russian in Afghanistan, have sprouted in the form of a religious movement Talliban from which primarily affected the Afghan people, but what happened with Afghanistan is a sign of warning to the world and want to believe that a reasonable person, would not go on about the lies on international terrorism will not allow dark forces to open a Pandora's box, and prevent world from catastrophe.
 
 


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I believe there was no Islamic terrorism in the 1960s at all and I wonder where was Islam back then, In a twisted way, the USA and it's fight against communism brought about the emergence of the Taliban who are pioneers in the world of terrorism and they are still using this method in Syria as well.

 
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July 04, 2017, 12:21:24 AM
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I believe there was no Islamic terrorism in the 1960s at all and I wonder where was Islam back then, In a twisted way, the USA and it's fight against communism brought about the emergence of the Taliban who are pioneers in the world of terrorism and they are still using this method in Syria as well.

They never forgot how the West they used to despise and ridicule rose up, surpassed them and then eventually invaded them, the same way they tried conquering Europe before. It was really only a matter of time. For example, they keep on remembering the humiliation after the collapse of the Ottomans but they look back to the Arab caliphate and Ottoman empire as a glorious past, forgetting that involves doing the same actions they blame the Europeans of doing.

The war with Russia simply enabled the fundamentalists to receive arms, they could have been supported by anyone. Remember, America armed them against the Russians, and then they turned and bit the Americans.
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July 04, 2017, 05:07:32 AM
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I believe there was no Islamic terrorism in the 1960s at all and I wonder where was Islam back then, In a twisted way, the USA and it's fight against communism brought about the emergence of the Taliban who are pioneers in the world of terrorism and they are still using this method in Syria as well.

There were no Taliban in Afghanistan. Their appearance is the result of the Soviet attack on Afghanistan, as a result of which the state power fell. The Taliban appeared after the shameful flight of the Russian army from Afghanistan.
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I believe there was no Islamic terrorism in the 1960s at all and I wonder where was Islam back then, In a twisted way, the USA and it's fight against communism brought about the emergence of the Taliban who are pioneers in the world of terrorism and they are still using this method in Syria as well.

They never forgot how the West they used to despise and ridicule rose up, surpassed them and then eventually invaded them, the same way they tried conquering Europe before. It was really only a matter of time. For example, they keep on remembering the humiliation after the collapse of the Ottomans but they look back to the Arab caliphate and Ottoman empire as a glorious past, forgetting that involves doing the same actions they blame the Europeans of doing.

The war with Russia simply enabled the fundamentalists to receive arms, they could have been supported by anyone. Remember, America armed them against the Russians, and then they turned and bit the Americans.

Surrenders to me, you are a great mess, mixing the Arab caliphate with the Ottoman Empire. The Arabs seized the lands where the Turks lived. For many years the Turks fought against the Arabs until they destroyed the Arab Caliphate. The Turks and Arabs are ethnically completely different peoples. For example, the British with the Germans are ethnically closer than the Turks with the Arabs and despite the fact that they are Khristians, between them were cruel two world wars. The Arabs, thanks to the citizens and French, were freed after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and can not consider it their glorious past.

America was bitten, as you say, not by Afghans, Arabs (Al-Qaeda is an Arab organization and Bin Laden is an Arab, not an Afghan) and bit the Arabs of America for supporting Israel in the struggle against the Arabs.
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July 12, 2017, 03:38:55 PM
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I believe there was no Islamic terrorism in the 1960s at all and I wonder where was Islam back then, In a twisted way, the USA and it's fight against communism brought about the emergence of the Taliban who are pioneers in the world of terrorism and they are still using this method in Syria as well.

They never forgot how the West they used to despise and ridicule rose up, surpassed them and then eventually invaded them, the same way they tried conquering Europe before. It was really only a matter of time. For example, they keep on remembering the humiliation after the collapse of the Ottomans but they look back to the Arab caliphate and Ottoman empire as a glorious past, forgetting that involves doing the same actions they blame the Europeans of doing.

The war with Russia simply enabled the fundamentalists to receive arms, they could have been supported by anyone. Remember, America armed them against the Russians, and then they turned and bit the Americans.

Surrenders to me, you are a great mess, mixing the Arab caliphate with the Ottoman Empire. The Arabs seized the lands where the Turks lived. For many years the Turks fought against the Arabs until they destroyed the Arab Caliphate. The Turks and Arabs are ethnically completely different peoples. For example, the British with the Germans are ethnically closer than the Turks with the Arabs and despite the fact that they are Khristians, between them were cruel two world wars. The Arabs, thanks to the citizens and French, were freed after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and can not consider it their glorious past.

America was bitten, as you say, not by Afghans, Arabs (Al-Qaeda is an Arab organization and Bin Laden is an Arab, not an Afghan) and bit the Arabs of America for supporting Israel in the struggle against the Arabs.

Sigh, I could have worded it better. A bit difficult for non-English speakers. Basically, what I'm saying is that they'd look to that part of their history as a Golden Age. Turks would look to the Ottoman empire and Arabs to the Caliphate. And somewhere there, they're going to blame Westerners for something that ruined it.

Also, is the Taliban also Arab?
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Also, is the Taliban also Arab?
no but arabs were sent to afghanistan with saudi/western money and weapons and the taliban sprung up out of that mess. western intervention is absolutely at the root of islamic terrorism but that in no way exonerates arabs for their own backward ways.

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July 14, 2017, 07:24:33 PM
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Also, is the Taliban also Arab?
no but arabs were sent to afghanistan with saudi/western money and weapons and the taliban sprung up out of that mess. western intervention is absolutely at the root of islamic terrorism but that in no way exonerates arabs for their own backward ways.

This whole western intervention things is one of the tough ones to try to fight on, lets think about that for a second. The US went in to dismantle a regime that they tought had Weapons of Mass Destruction (Saddam Hussein) even if this is a bit flaky on the evidence part, some people swear to them fully thinking at the time that this was true. So even if the West didn't involve themselves, some other nation around them may have stepped in to stop this

Lets go further with this, lets say no other nation came in. I feel as if all of the harsh putting down of dissidence would lead to at some point there being a revolution in these countries that would cause the same sort of hate which is present today - may not against the western nations like it's concentrated right now but the hate would still be there and running.

International Terrorism is always going to be causing a problem, we just have to limit it.




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July 14, 2017, 10:43:25 PM
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This whole western intervention things is one of the tough ones to try to fight on, lets think about that for a second. The US went in to dismantle a regime that they tought had Weapons of Mass Destruction (Saddam Hussein) even if this is a bit flaky on the evidence part, some people swear to them fully thinking at the time that this was true. So even if the West didn't involve themselves, some other nation around them may have stepped in to stop this

Lets go further with this, lets say no other nation came in. I feel as if all of the harsh putting down of dissidence would lead to at some point there being a revolution in these countries that would cause the same sort of hate which is present today - may not against the western nations like it's concentrated right now but the hate would still be there and running (bush sernior egged them on and then failed to support them).

International Terrorism is always going to be causing a problem, we just have to limit it.
you say it is always going to exist but it doesn't exist until we go in and fuck up their countries.

even if iraq did possess wmd that wouldn't constitute a credible threat as even the faultiest intel referred to battlefield weapons not the kind you mount on icbms. they possessed such weapons during the first gulf war and never dared to use them because of the threat of full scale retaliation. shia extremists did exploit the defeat in 1991 to attempt to rise up and were swiftly put down by the regime.

wmd was just the excuse they happened to use in that one instance. in afghanistan it was "we need to help the valiant afghan freedom fighters against evil ussr" and in kosovo, libya and syria the justification was that "we must stop an evil dictator kiling his own people" with the usual atrocity propaganda that goes along with it. in each case islamic terror cells sprung up fromt he ashes. don't get caught up in western propaganda. these countries are better off with democratically minded strongmen who keep the more backward elements of their societies in check while providing decent lives for the rest of the population.

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July 14, 2017, 11:55:16 PM
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I believe there was no Islamic terrorism in the 1960s at all and I wonder where was Islam back then, In a twisted way, the USA and it's fight against communism brought about the emergence of the Taliban who are pioneers in the world of terrorism and they are still using this method in Syria as well.

They never forgot how the West they used to despise and ridicule rose up, surpassed them and then eventually invaded them, the same way they tried conquering Europe before. It was really only a matter of time. For example, they keep on remembering the humiliation after the collapse of the Ottomans but they look back to the Arab caliphate and Ottoman empire as a glorious past, forgetting that involves doing the same actions they blame the Europeans of doing.

The war with Russia simply enabled the fundamentalists to receive arms, they could have been supported by anyone. Remember, America armed them against the Russians, and then they turned and bit the Americans.

The world of terrorism is very difficult to guess, because when they get allies, provide facilities to allies,
They should also be prepared with what will happen next, whether they will turn against or they stay together.
All that is difficult, because war is very sensitive
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July 15, 2017, 12:35:23 AM
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why terorist always brand muslim
is real destroy USA, you can see iraq after invation USA, afghanistan, libya
libya before USA invation , country with good rich after is poor country

why USA not intervention and invation to israel,
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July 15, 2017, 01:06:10 AM
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To limit or eradicate international terrorism, we need to get to the root cause. Why do people feel that this is the only way to solve their problems?
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July 15, 2017, 04:17:36 AM
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To limit or eradicate international terrorism, we need to get to the root cause. Why do people feel that this is the only way to solve their problems?

You know? Suggest another.
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July 15, 2017, 04:30:43 AM
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Also, is the Taliban also Arab?
no but arabs were sent to afghanistan with saudi/western money and weapons and the taliban sprung up out of that mess. western intervention is absolutely at the root of islamic terrorism but that in no way exonerates arabs for their own backward ways.

Do they have other ways?
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July 15, 2017, 05:59:59 AM
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The gmo cartel and nuclear cartel are the real threat to life. Rememeber they share one thing with their jihaidists friends, they don't care of this life too. But silence, as long as they pay taxes they have been legalised. Money is meeded to buy those games and bread...

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To limit or eradicate international terrorism, we need to get to the root cause. Why do people feel that this is the only way to solve their problems?

You know? Suggest another.

 So, as I understand, you have nothing to offer.
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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/618166/Manchester-Arena-bombing-Salman-Abedi-terror-group-backed-Britain ijs  Shocked

Mi6/cia are professionnal of brainwashing, it's not even so hard to track down all this "turn your neightboor into a vegetable suicide bomber in 3 lessons" to nazi experiment with radical brainwashed commandos, and how both cia & kgb got their share of these techniques.

See baku conference 1920, and connection with some turquish nationalist nut, how modern jihadism was created along side with radical communism to destabilize un friendly regims.

To me 95% of guerillas are not endogene but fabricated by a service or another. Until it turn full hellsing .


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism


The United States has at various times in recent history provided support to terrorist and paramilitary organizations around the world. It has also provided assistance to numerous authoritarian regimes that have used state terrorism as a tool of repression.[1][2]


The CIA wrote a manual for the Contras, entitled Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare (Operaciones sicológicas en guerra de guerrillas), which focused mainly on how "Armed Propaganda Teams" could build political support in Nicaragua for the Contra cause through deceit, intimidation, and violence.[76] The manual discussed assassinations.[77] The CIA claimed that the purpose of the manual was to "moderate" the extreme violence already being used by the Contras.[78]



The manual, Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare, clearly advocated a strategy of terror as the means to victory over the hearts and minds of Nicaraguans. Chapter headings such as ‘Selective Use of Violence for propagandistic Effects' and ‘Implicit and Explicit Terror' made that fact clear enough. ... The little booklet thus violated President Reagan's own Presidential Directive 12333, signed in December 1981, which prohibited any U.S. government employee—including the CIA—from having anything to do with assassinations.[79]

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July 16, 2017, 06:38:39 PM
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Also, is the Taliban also Arab?
no but arabs were sent to afghanistan with saudi/western money and weapons and the taliban sprung up out of that mess. western intervention is absolutely at the root of islamic terrorism but that in no way exonerates arabs for their own backward ways.

This whole western intervention things is one of the tough ones to try to fight on, lets think about that for a second. The US went in to dismantle a regime that they tought had Weapons of Mass Destruction (Saddam Hussein) even if this is a bit flaky on the evidence part, some people swear to them fully thinking at the time that this was true. So even if the West didn't involve themselves, some other nation around them may have stepped in to stop this

Lets go further with this, lets say no other nation came in. I feel as if all of the harsh putting down of dissidence would lead to at some point there being a revolution in these countries that would cause the same sort of hate which is present today - may not against the western nations like it's concentrated right now but the hate would still be there and running.

International Terrorism is always going to be causing a problem, we just have to limit it.
We all know that the USA had no proof the existence of Weapons of Mass Destruction before they decided to invade Iraq just because they wanted to ovethrow Saddam Hussein, they used the 9/11 attacks as a catalyst to wage a war that was unnecessary and lost the lives of innocent civilians and soldiers.

 
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Also, is the Taliban also Arab?
no but arabs were sent to afghanistan with saudi/western money and weapons and the taliban sprung up out of that mess. western intervention is absolutely at the root of islamic terrorism but that in no way exonerates arabs for their own backward ways.

This whole western intervention things is one of the tough ones to try to fight on, lets think about that for a second. The US went in to dismantle a regime that they tought had Weapons of Mass Destruction (Saddam Hussein) even if this is a bit flaky on the evidence part, some people swear to them fully thinking at the time that this was true. So even if the West didn't involve themselves, some other nation around them may have stepped in to stop this

Lets go further with this, lets say no other nation came in. I feel as if all of the harsh putting down of dissidence would lead to at some point there being a revolution in these countries that would cause the same sort of hate which is present today - may not against the western nations like it's concentrated right now but the hate would still be there and running.

International Terrorism is always going to be causing a problem, we just have to limit it.
We all know that the USA had no proof the existence of Weapons of Mass Destruction before they decided to invade Iraq just because they wanted to ovethrow Saddam Hussein, they used the 9/11 attacks as a catalyst to wage a war that was unnecessary and lost the lives of innocent civilians and soldiers.

This war began fool Bush, Jr., who instead of eliminating the real cause of the tragedy of September 11, attacked Iraq, which had nothing to do with the terrorist act.
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July 16, 2017, 07:16:00 PM
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Fucking monkey that allow gmos while they have all the communications of all those implicated in the scam are worthless. Btw the clintons are at the center of the gmos scam and nuke cover up.

Then frankly sarah palin has a real military strategy...

Now frankly... now frankly... usa... civil war and reboot, no more potus but a group... this one man poney show isn't working... or put an ai.


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