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July 02, 2017, 09:39:48 PM
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Privacy: Decentralisation forces an increased focus on data privacy. Data is distributed across the network and end-to-end encryption technologies are critical for ensuring that only authorized users can read and write. Access to the data itself is entirely controlled algorithmically by the network as opposed to more centralized networks where typically the owner of that network has full access to data, facilitating  customer profiling and ad targeting.

Data Portability: In a decentralized environment, users own their data and choose with whom they share this data. Moreover they retain control of it when they leave a given service provider (assuming the service even has the concept of service providers). This is important. If I want to move from General Motors to BMW today, why should I not be able to take my driving records with me? The same applies to chat platform history or health records.

Security: Finally, we live in a world of increased security threats. In a centralized environment, the bigger the silo, the bigger the honeypot is to attract bad actors. Decentralized environments are safer by their general nature against being hacked, infiltrated, acquired, bankrupted or otherwise compromised as they have been built to exist under public scrutiny from the outset.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/09/a-decentralized-web-would-give-power-back-to-the-people-online/

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July 02, 2017, 11:56:53 PM
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maidsafe is a project in the working i think. but how are you going to provide internet access with decentralized? it just cant happen imo, or at least not completely decentralized. there will always be someone controlling electricity supplies, if they cut it off then bummer.
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July 03, 2017, 09:07:28 AM
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maidsafe is a project in the working i think. but how are you going to provide internet access with decentralized? it just cant happen imo, or at least not completely decentralized. there will always be someone controlling electricity supplies, if they cut it off then bummer.
Shift is better than Maidsafe. Read more about.
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July 03, 2017, 10:19:12 AM
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It may save us from google's monopoly in every related field of web?
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July 03, 2017, 10:29:56 AM
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It may save us from google's monopoly in every related field of web?
Maybe. Smiley
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July 03, 2017, 05:19:09 PM
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Not really. 99% of people wouldn't care to help decentralize the web. The last 1% would become supernodes and we'd have the centralization problem again. Take a look at BTC, it used to be anyone with a CPU could be part of the mining. Sure, that dual-core amd rig might only generate a few micro-btc per week, but it was feasible to mine with it.

Now-a-days, mining is owned by a few super nodes; those with the access to supply of hardware.

Decentralizing the internet would be an absolutely massive undertaking, considering it's already decentralized (feel free to advertise your own BGP routes, I just won't trust them Wink)

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July 03, 2017, 10:01:23 PM
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Not really. 99% of people wouldn't care to help decentralize the web. The last 1% would become supernodes and we'd have the centralization problem again. Take a look at BTC, it used to be anyone with a CPU could be part of the mining. Sure, that dual-core amd rig might only generate a few micro-btc per week, but it was feasible to mine with it.

Now-a-days, mining is owned by a few super nodes; those with the access to supply of hardware.

Decentralizing the internet would be an absolutely massive undertaking, considering it's already decentralized (feel free to advertise your own BGP routes, I just won't trust them Wink)
Decentralized internet is a game changer.
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July 03, 2017, 10:32:05 PM
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SHIFT is one of some good decentralized projects that we need to have a look, no doubt about it.
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July 03, 2017, 10:33:53 PM
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What if I want to visit an obscure website?  Without a centralized point of DNS, I'd have to rely on one of my peers knowing the IP address?

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July 03, 2017, 11:33:22 PM
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How do you want to make the web decentralized ??

This is just not the way how the internet we know now works.
The normal internet is that you visit a specific url on a server which has the info that you need.

How do you decentralize that? You might need to totally create a new version of the web or something (but I just can't imagine it ??
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July 04, 2017, 12:01:31 AM
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Why? People don't need any power on internet. The only power we need is the electricity.
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July 04, 2017, 01:15:31 AM
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Isn't that impossible? It's hard for me to imagine how it would work and if it would be totally decentralized.
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Y'all dumb. The Internet is already decentralized.

What if I want to visit an obscure website?  Without a centralized point of DNS, I'd have to rely on one of my peers knowing the IP address?

Hey man, no one's forcing you to use the architecture.

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July 04, 2017, 01:55:04 AM
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Is there anyone here uses Duckduckgo as their search engine? It's more secure and does not store your data or track you like what Google and Bing do. Aside from Duckduckgo, YaCy is also another comprehensive search portal similar to Duckduckgo. From their description, YaCy is a decentralized search engine that is not possible to censor as they do not share the content of their index and every search you made from them are private. Check those two out if you like.

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July 04, 2017, 09:00:08 AM
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Is there anyone here uses Duckduckgo as their search engine? It's more secure and does not store your data or track you like what Google and Bing do. Aside from Duckduckgo, YaCy is also another comprehensive search portal similar to Duckduckgo. From their description, YaCy is a decentralized search engine that is not possible to censor as they do not share the content of their index and every search you made from them are private. Check those two out if you like.
I use duckduckgo sometimes which is good.
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July 05, 2017, 07:46:58 PM
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Privacy: Decentralisation forces an increased focus on data privacy. Data is distributed across the network and end-to-end encryption technologies are critical for ensuring that only authorized users can read and write. Access to the data itself is entirely controlled algorithmically by the network as opposed to more centralized networks where typically the owner of that network has full access to data, facilitating  customer profiling and ad targeting.

Data Portability: In a decentralized environment, users own their data and choose with whom they share this data. Moreover they retain control of it when they leave a given service provider (assuming the service even has the concept of service providers). This is important. If I want to move from General Motors to BMW today, why should I not be able to take my driving records with me? The same applies to chat platform history or health records.

Security: Finally, we live in a world of increased security threats. In a centralized environment, the bigger the silo, the bigger the honeypot is to attract bad actors. Decentralized environments are safer by their general nature against being hacked, infiltrated, acquired, bankrupted or otherwise compromised as they have been built to exist under public scrutiny from the outset.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/09/a-decentralized-web-would-give-power-back-to-the-people-online/

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http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shift/
like freenet?
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July 05, 2017, 07:49:53 PM
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i think shift is worthless
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July 18, 2017, 09:54:18 PM
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Privacy: Decentralisation forces an increased focus on data privacy. Data is distributed across the network and end-to-end encryption technologies are critical for ensuring that only authorized users can read and write. Access to the data itself is entirely controlled algorithmically by the network as opposed to more centralized networks where typically the owner of that network has full access to data, facilitating  customer profiling and ad targeting.

Data Portability: In a decentralized environment, users own their data and choose with whom they share this data. Moreover they retain control of it when they leave a given service provider (assuming the service even has the concept of service providers). This is important. If I want to move from General Motors to BMW today, why should I not be able to take my driving records with me? The same applies to chat platform history or health records.

Security: Finally, we live in a world of increased security threats. In a centralized environment, the bigger the silo, the bigger the honeypot is to attract bad actors. Decentralized environments are safer by their general nature against being hacked, infiltrated, acquired, bankrupted or otherwise compromised as they have been built to exist under public scrutiny from the outset.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/09/a-decentralized-web-would-give-power-back-to-the-people-online/

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Do you think that SHIFT has massive potential for the future?

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shift/
Good article.
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July 18, 2017, 10:20:47 PM
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What if I want to visit an obscure website?  Without a centralized point of DNS, I'd have to rely on one of my peers knowing the IP address?

Hey man, no one's forcing you to use the architecture.

The architecture will never work, for the reason I described above.

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July 19, 2017, 09:18:33 AM
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i bought shift too. 4000 shift  Cool
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August 11, 2017, 11:58:58 AM
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Good article. shift's future looks promising.
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August 11, 2017, 12:56:20 PM
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maybe, but I think we don't need much power in internet.
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