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April 16, 2018, 11:06:35 AM
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I wonder if it would be possible if governments interfere?! What do you think?
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April 16, 2018, 11:23:14 AM
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volatility of bitcoin comes from a fact that it is a new asset class and quite unregulated, so this is bound to happen as it has been a case with new asset in recorded in history many times, skeptics have been critical of cars, internet, flying machines or more to say of new technology. so the volatility should be treated as part of bitcoin's maturing process. also this technology is a game changing innovation which is dressed as magic volatile internet money.
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April 16, 2018, 11:30:45 AM
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I think that it is impossible to control volatility, because bitcoin is based on a decentralized system. What makes it volatile is supply and demand, and we can not control people who buy and sell bitcoin.

Exactly, it is not possible for us to control the flow of buying and selling the Bitcoins because in the decentralized market everyone has equal right option to buy and sell. So it is impossible to control the volatility in terms of price and in terms of buying.
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April 16, 2018, 12:03:43 PM
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I have read some posts and some concerns that it is the volatility of Bitcoin that is preventing many people and many businesses to fully adopt Bitcoin. This can be the main factor why big online shopping stores are not yet adding Bitcoin into their payment facilities (though there is now a circulated petition for this but I doubt if it can make a dent).

Some are really saying that if volatility can be managed then we can see Bitcoin going mainstream. I am wondering then: Is volatility something that we should find a way to control and how do you think it can be done?
Since bitcoin is not that old as our regular currency, we cannot say that it could be stable now. It is still dependent on the number of people using it. When the time comes that bitcoin will be used by general, then maybe its price will be more stable, thus more predictable.
Bitcoin volatility cannot be controlled because it is a matter of demand. The more people demand, the more will be the price and so on like the demand theory. Prices also are determined by the speculations. These speculations attract the investors and the price again alters or increases. So the volatility of the Bitcoin is like something innate. It cannot be controlled.
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April 16, 2018, 12:09:49 PM
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I don't think that's even possible because Bitcoin market is somehow related to the stock market. Even though they are two different things, but still if you can find a way to minimize how to prevent the violation of the price then that means there is even the slightest chance that you can control the share market price too
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April 16, 2018, 12:15:37 PM
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I have read some posts and some concerns that it is the volatility of Bitcoin that is preventing many people and many businesses to fully adopt Bitcoin. This can be the main factor why big online shopping stores are not yet adding Bitcoin into their payment facilities (though there is now a circulated petition for this but I doubt if it can make a dent).

Some are really saying that if volatility can be managed then we can see Bitcoin going mainstream. I am wondering then: Is volatility something that we should find a way to control and how do you think it can be done?
you can control the price if you're a whale. big investors are able to manipulate the bitcoin prices they have, while those of us who invest in small quantities just follow the market flow and read the chart movement in detail.
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April 16, 2018, 12:21:14 PM
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I think that it is impossible to control volatility, because bitcoin is based on a decentralized system. What makes it volatile is supply and demand, and we can not control people who buy and sell bitcoin.

Not like our fiat money, bitcoin not controlled by any institution and its hard to control bitcoin price in market. With decentralized, bitcoin price controlled and submitted by market participant.

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April 16, 2018, 12:26:00 PM
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I have read some posts and some concerns that it is the volatility of Bitcoin that is preventing many people and many businesses to fully adopt Bitcoin. This can be the main factor why big online shopping stores are not yet adding Bitcoin into their payment facilities (though there is now a circulated petition for this but I doubt if it can make a dent).

Some are really saying that if volatility can be managed then we can see Bitcoin going mainstream. I am wondering then: Is volatility something that we should find a way to control and how do you think it can be done?
you can control the price if you're a whale. big investors are able to manipulate the bitcoin prices they have, while those of us who invest in small quantities just follow the market flow and read the chart movement in detail.
if we want control bitcoin volatility, you need more money that bitcoin marketcap right now.but i think its still could not happen.bitcoin concept is decentralized so no one controll it.
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April 16, 2018, 01:09:18 PM
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I think bitcoins volatility  cannot be controlled not unless the government taxes and eventually manipulate these cryptocurrencies. Once the governement manipulates them then it can be controlled but I don’t think it will happen anytime soon because even the banks are not in favor of these cryptocurrencies, I’m not sure in other countries but in my country it doesn’t.

Agree with you. It's really difficult also to controlled volatility of bitcoin in our country because our government were not yet adapting on it and there were no rules and regulations provided to controlled bitcoin volatility behavior. Volatility market of bitcoin can be controlled only if it is centralized manipulated by the government law firm but as to when to happen it can't be predicted.
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April 16, 2018, 01:27:52 PM
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I don't really think so. Bitcoin as well as most of the cryptocurrencies are naturally volatile due to the demand in the market whereas the value or the market itself is just dependent from. There are times that the market stabilizes but within a short period of time. Volatility is not totally a bad thing and in fact many people are earning huge profit from it from buying during dumps and selling during pumps.

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April 16, 2018, 01:32:17 PM
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You can control it the same way you can control paper or usual digital money - buy managing the circulation or converting to a security.
With Bitcoin it is impossible. The other possibility is to control it through speculation, but you have to be a big player, a whale.

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April 16, 2018, 01:52:54 PM
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I have read some posts and some concerns that it is the volatility of Bitcoin that is preventing many people and many businesses to fully adopt Bitcoin. This can be the main factor why big online shopping stores are not yet adding Bitcoin into their payment facilities (though there is now a circulated petition for this but I doubt if it can make a dent).

Some are really saying that if volatility can be managed then we can see Bitcoin going mainstream. I am wondering then: Is volatility something that we should find a way to control and how do you think it can be done?

No, we cannot control volatility considering bitcoin is sorrounded by too many investors.
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April 16, 2018, 04:14:56 PM
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For me, bitcoin volatility can’t be controlled. We all know that controlling bitcoin amount is very difficult because many people have bitcoin, maybe it will happen if a single person has more than 51% of bitcoin total volume, but we all know that no one has that massive volume, so it will be complicated to control bitcoin price rate. Also, that is one of the great ways why bitcoin is popular because you can buy bitcoin at a low amount and sell it at your effective rate.  Smiley
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April 16, 2018, 05:28:09 PM
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I have read some posts and some concerns that it is the volatility of Bitcoin that is preventing many people and many businesses to fully adopt Bitcoin. This can be the main factor why big online shopping stores are not yet adding Bitcoin into their payment facilities (though there is now a circulated petition for this but I doubt if it can make a dent).

Some are really saying that if volatility can be managed then we can see Bitcoin going mainstream. I am wondering then: Is volatility something that we should find a way to control and how do you think it can be done?

It could definitely be controlled.

An example of this would be, say we have a bitcoin stability fund that holds half of its assets in bitcoin and the other half in USD. The fund has to be quite large, at least $10 million to make bitcoin really less volatile. The idea is simple, if bitcoin goes up, then the bitcoins are sold to offset the rise and bring bitcoin back to its normal resting level. And bitcoin goes down, the USD is used to buy into bitcoin causing a rise.

However, this is only going to centralize bitcoin. And that's not something that anyone wants in my opinion. And bitcoin should be volatile, it's actually quite attractive to investors this way. If bitcoin is pegged with USD all the time, then whats the difference between bitcoin and USD?
The idea of ​​creating such a fund is perhaps the only way to eliminate the volatility of bitcoins. This is practically one of the main functions of Central banks in a particular state for national money. Therefore, although this idea is not new, but probably the most effective one. However, in this regard, a lot of questions and problems arise. Immediately the question arises: who will create and from what funds this fund and who will control its work?
It seems to me that the creation of such a fund will be very problematic, since many will see this as a threat of centralizing bitcoin. I think that with the increase in the cost of bitcoin, its volatility will also increase.

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April 16, 2018, 10:06:03 PM
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I have read some posts and some concerns that it is the volatility of Bitcoin that is preventing many people and many businesses to fully adopt Bitcoin. This can be the main factor why big online shopping stores are not yet adding Bitcoin into their payment facilities (though there is now a circulated petition for this but I doubt if it can make a dent).

Some are really saying that if volatility can be managed then we can see Bitcoin going mainstream. I am wondering then: Is volatility something that we should find a way to control and how do you think it can be done?

No, we cannot control volatility considering bitcoin is sorrounded by too many investors.
Yeah bitcoin is surrounded by millions of investors but still we cannot control bitcoin, for everyone bitcoin is different as some are using it as currency some are suing as asset so bitcoin ahs wide phase and right now it is very hard to control bitcoin, infect some people really like the volatility of bitcoin because the price of bitcoin is not the same, buy now hold with patience if today price is low tomorrow it will be high, bitcoin volatility should be taken positively buy when the price will be low and sell at the high price.
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April 16, 2018, 10:47:26 PM
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The decentralization of BTC means that it is difficult to control, but the price is easily fluctuated!

If there is a lot of money for BTC trading! The price of BTC will fluctuate!

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April 16, 2018, 11:55:45 PM
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The decentralization of BTC means that it is difficult to control, but the price is easily fluctuated!

If there is a lot of money for BTC trading! The price of BTC will fluctuate!

Indeed, almost impossible to control bitcoin as long bitcoin using decentralized system. Sometimes bitcoin fluctuation is good because can give opportunity making profits from bitcoin trading in cryptomarket.

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April 17, 2018, 12:27:08 AM
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It is hard to control no chance at all. This is because people come and go to invest. Not unless if the total supply of bitcoin is far too big such that the ratio between supply and demand will is still a very big difference. But the value as well will be very low or small.
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April 17, 2018, 12:42:14 AM
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nope thats not possible if they can control it they gonna make it trough the biggest pump  those big name in this business will make a move cause they have a lot of investment   and if controlling it is possible why they  can they make it stable

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April 18, 2018, 12:43:12 AM
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I have read some posts and some concerns that it is the volatility of Bitcoin that is preventing many people and many businesses to fully adopt Bitcoin. This can be the main factor why big online shopping stores are not yet adding Bitcoin into their payment facilities (though there is now a circulated petition for this but I doubt if it can make a dent).

Some are really saying that if volatility can be managed then we can see Bitcoin going mainstream. I am wondering then: Is volatility something that we should find a way to control and how do you think it can be done?

It could definitely be controlled.

An example of this would be, say we have a bitcoin stability fund that holds half of its assets in bitcoin and the other half in USD. The fund has to be quite large, at least $10 million to make bitcoin really less volatile. The idea is simple, if bitcoin goes up, then the bitcoins are sold to offset the rise and bring bitcoin back to its normal resting level. And bitcoin goes down, the USD is used to buy into bitcoin causing a rise.

However, this is only going to centralize bitcoin. And that's not something that anyone wants in my opinion. And bitcoin should be volatile, it's actually quite attractive to investors this way. If bitcoin is pegged with USD all the time, then whats the difference between bitcoin and USD?
The idea of ​​creating such a fund is perhaps the only way to eliminate the volatility of bitcoins. This is practically one of the main functions of Central banks in a particular state for national money. Therefore, although this idea is not new, but probably the most effective one. However, in this regard, a lot of questions and problems arise. Immediately the question arises: who will create and from what funds this fund and who will control its work?
It seems to me that the creation of such a fund will be very problematic, since many will see this as a threat of centralizing bitcoin. I think that with the increase in the cost of bitcoin, its volatility will also increase.
You forget the amount of this funds is lower than the total market cap of Bitcoin in the market.
$ 134.677.683.934 is the market cap of Bitcoin at current.
10 million dollars can help the whale control a small market like a small exchange, example Poloniex, I think that amount can control the price of Bitcoin in Poloniex exchange in short time.
But if the whale want to control the price of Bitcoin in all exchanges, I am sure this plan never create by a trader, it needs to creates by many rich Bitcoin trader are the whale in the market.
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