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Author Topic: Any word on amd vega hash rates?  (Read 202004 times)
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August 18, 2017, 03:27:28 PM
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I guess no one bothered to calculate max theoretical ETH hashrate. 70-100 was never realistic for this card.

Vega memory BW: 484GB/s
DAG mem fetched per hash: 8kB
max theoretical hashrate: 484/8 - 60.5MH/s

Either Vega's arch is terrible for random access reads, or the miner software still needs to be optimized for the new architecture. Somewhere around 75-85% efficiency is reasonable assuming Vega isn't trash. So around 45-55MH/s could be possible. 70+? lol

Tinkering with HBM2 timings is not as straightforward as it is for DDR. Does AMD even expose ability to tweak the timings? I would be quite surprised if they do.

Has anyone reported power consumption while mining yet?

Some early sites did do the calculations and stated as much, problem was once people heard the 70 Mhash rumor there was too much desire to believe and ignore the facts.

Early testing does show the Vega getting into the low 40's when upping the power limit, but power usage also shoots through the roof with over 350 watts just for the card, or 450 for the entire system (1 card test). So yes it can put out some hashes if you don't care about power use at all, so while it may be ideal for college dorms, mom and dad's basement, etc., with free electricity arrangements, but not so good for everyone else.

As far as I know the bios is locked down (encrypted) so any attempts to modify it will not be able to be flashed to the card without being able to encrypt the file with an AMD approved key. So only software tweaks for now are possible.

STOP SAYING SHIT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT >.>

It is NOT encrypted, it is just signed. I've already ported many of my tools.

Well maybe encrypted wasn't the proper term, but it was a late night after an all-dayer trying to tweak the damn thing. In any event, it the BIOS is protected right now for most of us mere mortals without private tools.

Anyway, if you did crack into the BIOS can you kindly let us know the max hashrate and power usage you have obtained? This would at least give us a better idea of its potential as right now everything is speculation with it being locked down and in this locked down state the results are dismal.

False, you don't need private tools - I posted a solution:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1634018/vega-frontier-rx-vega-owners-info-thread/70#post_26281235

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August 18, 2017, 07:21:29 PM
Last edit: August 18, 2017, 07:59:27 PM by greaterninja
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I see Vega 64 benchmarks 34.4 mh/s for eth.
I would think the cards can do 43-46 mh/s if a good bios with memory timings is applied.

One would be better off buying 2 x 470 or 2x 480 or 2x 580 or 2 x 570 or 2 x 1060 3gb samsung memory cards.
The performance per cost would be cheaper if going this route.

Currently I see new 1060 and 470 cards under $240.   At 22-28 mh/s per card, this is the best "new" card deal out there.

Where do you live?
In US, I only see those for $270-400, maybe you can find cheaper on ebay, but not easily.

I'm in Silicon Valley.
newegg *had* a sapphire 470 "mining" for $239.99
The nvidia gtx 1060 3gb I've seen sell for $215 to $230 on amazon (wanna get the Samsung memory ones).
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August 19, 2017, 02:52:02 AM
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newegg *had* a sapphire 470 "mining" for $239.99

 Been available *3* times since they first started listing it, as far as I can tell - and "quantity one per person" with a 48 hour timeout - and it's ALWAYS been out by the time the timeout expired.
 2 of those 3 times it sold out in LESS than an hour, the 3'd time they actually had them in stock for a bit over 1 day (which is when I managed to get mine).

 Most of the time the lowest-cost RX 4570/480/570/580 cards they have IN STOCK are over $300.



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August 19, 2017, 03:44:18 AM
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I see Vega 64 benchmarks 34.4 mh/s for eth.
I would think the cards can do 43-46 mh/s if a good bios with memory timings is applied.

One would be better off buying 2 x 470 or 2x 480 or 2x 580 or 2 x 570 or 2 x 1060 3gb samsung memory cards.
The performance per cost would be cheaper if going this route.

Currently I see new 1060 and 470 cards under $240.   At 22-28 mh/s per card, this is the best "new" card deal out there.

Where do you live?
In US, I only see those for $270-400, maybe you can find cheaper on ebay, but not easily.

I'm in Silicon Valley.
newegg *had* a sapphire 470 "mining" for $239.99
The nvidia gtx 1060 3gb I've seen sell for $215 to $230 on amazon (wanna get the Samsung memory ones).

SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 470 11256-38-21G 8GB GDDR5 PCI-E Mining Quad (UEFI) (Samsung Memory) Video Card - OEM
OUT OF STOCK

$279.99
$3.99 Shipping

you mean this?
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August 20, 2017, 09:12:30 AM
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not good buy rx 470 rx 580....
because price is over 300 usd now
please wait few weeks and price drop more
now maybe good buy VEGA - because they update driver and hash rate up - maybe to 100 mhs

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August 20, 2017, 09:33:07 AM
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maybe to 100 mhs

Did you have a brain damage? This card will never get to 100 mh/s, 100 MH/s was a LIE to get noobs to preorder what the scammers had preordered hehe

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August 20, 2017, 09:53:46 AM
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maybe to 100 mhs

Did you have a brain damage? This card will never get to 100 mh/s, 100 MH/s was a LIE to get noobs to preorder what the scammers had preordered hehe

I always thought little 'm' stands for 'milli' and 'M' is for 'mega'.
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August 20, 2017, 10:28:40 AM
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What about Vega 56? Are this cards not being sold yet. All I can find around the stores in EU is VEga 64.

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August 20, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
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What about Vega 56? Are this cards not being sold yet. All I can find around the stores in EU is VEga 64.
same here in asia
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August 20, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
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What about Vega 56? Are this cards not being sold yet. All I can find around the stores in EU is VEga 64.
The Vega 56 will release August 28th
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August 20, 2017, 11:38:14 PM
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Vega 56 has lower memory bandwidth compared to 64. Thus lower theoretical hashrate.
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August 21, 2017, 02:41:10 AM
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will be 50 mhs after driver update?

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August 21, 2017, 04:40:31 AM
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will be 50 mhs after driver update?

I think the 64 card will do low 50's   After drivers and tweaks

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August 21, 2017, 10:42:24 AM
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The vega 56 is a card deliberately limited to stop it being near the vega 64 .   The memory cant go past 1000 mhz and that means the performance is throttled, apparently mining relys on memory bandwidth even more so I would guess it'll show in results.

Rx580 is still the best for power use.   People saying Volta might be good at mining, that is next year

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August 21, 2017, 01:54:23 PM
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It will never give 50mhs probably ...and rx vega 56 have lower performance so...
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August 21, 2017, 04:59:01 PM
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It will never give 50mhs probably ...and rx vega 56 have lower performance so...

It might reach high 40s and low 50s with BOIS mods and better drivers. But that will take time
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August 21, 2017, 06:40:41 PM
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I feel that Vega line is going to become the last hope for ETH mining in light of diminishing rewards and rising difficulty.
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August 21, 2017, 08:51:16 PM
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The vega 56 is a card deliberately limited to stop it being near the vega 64 .   The memory cant go past 1000 mhz and that means the performance is throttled, apparently mining relys on memory bandwidth even more so I would guess it'll show in results.

Rx580 is still the best for power use.   People saying Volta might be good at mining, that is next year

you mean core? memory could go to 1900, apparently, but then power goes to 290w, hashing at 34-36 Mh/s, which is bothersome for $750.
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-radeon-rx-vega-mining-block-chain-ethereum

I say, f-k Volta. They already "screwed" up once, will not wait again.
Nvidia is so much better, low power, mining soft is super stable.
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August 21, 2017, 08:55:08 PM
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It will never give 50mhs probably ...and rx vega 56 have lower performance so...

It might reach high 40s and low 50s with BOIS mods and better drivers. But that will take time
yeah, and by that time (2-3 mo), it probably would not matter anyway.
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August 21, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Last edit: September 07, 2017, 12:39:50 PM by uDwcHYO
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And what does the Claymore say about Vega hashrate? Or so far nothing? HBM memory has good potential but without updating the program part of a good result, it most likely will not be.
if now you can get ~ 39 mh with overclock then with optimization will be competitive with the current favorites.

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