what is the best anonymous altcoin?

[fuckregulations]

lately i am reading about several altcoins who offer anonymity or claim to be anonymous and i wonder which one is the best. from what i understood dash coin provides only mixing service while zcash and monero actualy hides the details of the transaction like the addresses and the amount of coins in the transaction. but from what i readed about zcash i keep see this thing about how the zcash founders can make many coins as they wish without even being detected and they already gets like 10% of all zcash mined.

zcash sounds like the most anonymous but the idea that the founders might be able to make as many coins they want is realy problematic.
for me its look like monero is the best anonymous cryptocurrency but i hope to see some more opinions cause i am pretty new in all the cryptocurrency thing and i don't know about other anonymous altcoins other than the three i mentioned. there is more/better anonymous altcoins?

[petrosc]

Zcoin is the most anonymous coin. It is probably the only truly anonymous coin.  Not zcash....

[fuckregulations]

Zcoin is the most anonymous coin. It is probably the only truly anonymous coin.  Not zcash....

i thought that zcoin and zcash was the same thing... got confused with all those Zerocoins.  

[Celebrity]

lately i am reading about several altcoins who offer anonymity or claim to be anonymous and i wonder which one is the best. from what i understood dash coin provides only mixing service while zcash and monero actualy hides the details of the transaction like the addresses and the amount of coins in the transaction. but from what i readed about zcash i keep see this thing about how the zcash founders can make many coins as they wish without even being detected and they already gets like 10% of all zcash mined.

zcash sounds like the most anonymous but the idea that the founders might be able to make as many coins they want is realy problematic.
for me its look like monero is the best anonymous cryptocurrency but i hope to see some more opinions cause i am pretty new in all the cryptocurrency thing and i don't know about other anonymous altcoins other than the three i mentioned. there is more/better anonymous altcoins?

Wow, I didn't know this about Zcash. I've been mining monero for 5-6 months and I was looking for another alternative of it. Some friends of mine offered me zcash but they never told me that its founders are able to generate as many coins as they want. I never participate this kind of coin community.

For answering your question, I was gonna say Monero.

[petrosc]

Zcoin is the most anonymous coin. It is probably the only truly anonymous coin.  Not zcash....

i thought that zcoin and zcash was the same thing... got confused with all those Zerocoins.  

check out JABankster's post on ZCoin and how it's different from other anonymous coins here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.4360

[xbiv2]

what is the best anonymous altcoin?

Dont have now. All exist - pump and dump scheme.
Best- XMR, but not for investment- just use it.

[Nedkt]

Monero.

[kraterion]

NavCoin is anonimous as well, navtech has a dual-blockchain system, your transaction go trough the subchain where it go trough random picked server. You better read the whitepaper because I'm not good at explaining things . Navtech Polymorph is not far away for release, this is a system (in collaboration with changelly) where you can exchange 25+ currencies via Navtech (anonimously)

[mnemonicsoup]

Most anon coins are not really anonymous because they have one big flaw: Transactions are not forced to be anonymous but you can choose between anonymous and non anonymous transactions and in reality only 1% percent of all transactions choose to be anonymous which makes it easy to single them out.

Monero and Aeon are the only ones that don't have this flaw.

Also, with ZCash or ZCoin or Dash exchanges can and some do refuse anonymous deposits and this renders these currencies essentially useless. There is no true fungibility.

People should really inform themselves better and not support these scamcoins. Dash is the worst because the founder pre-mined around 30% of the total supply, I fail to grasp how people can still invest in this coin.

[ranreichman]

Zcash and Monero are both anonymized, Zcash a bit more so. The founders of Zcash most definitely can't create coins at will, that would make the currency completely centralized. Note that founders of coins have no interest to do that because it makes them huge targets.

[Abricotier]

The best is by far ZCoin. It is like ZCash, but while ZCash z-addresses, the totally anonymised ones, do not work, ZCoin is fully finished and running. Do note there has been no hype over it yet, if that can gives you some ideas on what to accumulate !

[Harold Finch]

Zcash or Monero i think.
But not for invest only for fast and private using 

[cryptohunter]

pivx is now...

[daniel.a]

XMR, the question is will it be the one that sticks around?

[25hashcoin]

There's 3 I like.

CloakCoin
Monero
ZenCash

[yorklab]

ZenCash (ZEN) -a fork of Zclassic which is a fork of Zcash. Only a month old, they plan on making many improvements to the original.

Here is their website:
https://zensystem.io/

[newtybar]

Surprised no one has mentioned Verge (XVG)

[John Titor]

ZK proofs are the most secure form of anonymity that exists, nothing else matches them in terms of anonymity provided, and yes that includes Monero (though Monero has other things going for it, it is still a good project).

Many ZK coins out there, such as; ZCash, ZCoin, ZClassic, ZenCash, Hush, and my personal favorite Komodo (everyone seems to forget that Supernet is still a thing.).  There are probably others that I am not thinking of or am not aware of, do some reading and take your pick.

[umbara ardian]

Many coins. But there are some that i like 1.monero 2. zcash

[Recca297]

Zcash and Monero are the best for current I think

[rowenta01]

The best ones are for me:

- Zcoin
- Cloakcoin
- Zencash
- Hush
- Monero
- Zcash

But if today I had to buy a big bag, I will choose the undervalued values:

- Zcoin
- Cloakcoin
- Hush
- Zencash

The others are good for high volumes, and reasonable gains, while for undervalued values, the gains will be much larger!

It's my opinion!

[Kema]

My personal favorite is CLOAK, but don't take my word for it. Check it out yourself...

[Myrtsi]

Verge, PIVX with zerocoin protocol maybe too

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[pey]

Monero and pivx are best for me. PIVX is also new giant.

[AiWanChu]

Iotas is one of those high Mcap anonymous ones, I dont have any tho, too expensive and huge supply

[inwestor2017]

What do you think about IOTA and the Golem and Decent?

[ActiveP]

Monero is the best alt for anonymous transactions and value. It hides your address on the block chain and whenever you receive monero, the sender generates a new one-time address, which is assigned to the receiver and only the receiver can send from it.

These are known as stealth addresses, which all look the same, so nobody knows where the money goes to. Simply put, the sender does not know the receivers address and you use payment Id's to identify a sender and payment.

[sui_generis]

Monero. All others have serious flaws.

[lazi]

Of course CLOAK

Visit http://chat.cloakcoin.com to get more information  

[Ompan]

Monero, it's currently the only serious privacy coin.

[lazybeats]

Monero and Verge.


Your IP is broadcast with Zcash/Zcoin/PIVX.




XMR is king. XVG is the up-and-comer.

[pynetx]

Monero is best anon coin as it uses ring signature tech.

[shams]

For me ZCash, Monero and Nav Coins are the good anonymous coins and I am holding them from long time and I will keep them for long term because I see a great future in these coins as they are doing very great in this crypto market.

[arbitrage]

XMR, the question is will it be the one that sticks around?

XMR right now but this doesn't mean it will stay like this. Talented developers working hard and improving technology. But only true progress will come from team that have constant income flow, so this mean XMR could face some changes if want to stay on the top.

[GRR]

Verge XVG is top notch. Good time to invest. In 3 months it may be too late.

[shata]

Surprised no one has mentioned Verge (XVG)

i think of XVG also...

[arbitrage]

Cloak pays 6% interest.

This is not all, your Cloaks also can earn you more if they are included in ENIGMA mixing. Now you can use and Raspberry-Pi for this purpose, and reduce your spends. but let's see what will happen after source code sees the light of day..
I wouldn't be surprised if dump occurs, because it is always the same story (dump on news).

[psiksenz]

Surprised no one has mentioned Verge (XVG)

+1  I saw an interview between devs of PIVX and the lead dev of XVG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFXkJjgPlII&t=1659s

The lead dev of verge addressed some privacy issues coming up with PIVX, also seems like a sound project to me, although I have invested in both!

[matale0]

How about Spectrecoin that uses TOR? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2103301.0

[Chamone]

Surprised no one has mentioned Verge (XVG)

Yeah was going to say Verge and cheap at the moment too.

[TheMuppet]

I think Deep Onion is one to watch.

Market cap just over $3MM as I type this.

Fantastic branding focused on TOR (which is where the anonymous action is).

FAST transactions.

Encrypted messaging.

I just love the vision and everything about it.

[25hashcoin]

Zcoin (not Zcash)

[chalkboard17]

Zcash is the best. why there are too many people love deep onion? it is suck and it will never be listed in the top 40 coins on the market cap. Stop dreaming about it

[coinpennant]

In my opinion Komodo or GAS

[Direwolve735]

The best anonymous altcoin is Zcash. In fact, Zcash is the first truly anonymous currency. The main Zcash feature is mathematically guaranteed anonymity. Zcash guarantees complete anonymity, unlike the rather transparent Bitcoin, where the movement of money is tracked with absolute accuracy. In the current conditions of attempts of strict state control over citizens in different countries, Zcash is a currency that will be in demand by society.

[psiksenz]

I was never a fan of Zcash, when they got into bed with JP Morgan that sealed the deal for me.  Sure you could have made a lot of money if you got in early, but lots of other coins will also make you a lot of money.

If you are a member of BCT in good standing and post here regularly you can get in on DeepOnion for free, you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain.  Treat yourselves to a weekly FREE airdrop of a coin that is already well priced on exchanges and still at the very start of its journey with big things coming up on the roadmap.

[25hashcoin]

The best anonymous altcoin is Zcash. In fact, Zcash is the first truly anonymous currency. The main Zcash feature is mathematically guaranteed anonymity. Zcash guarantees complete anonymity, unlike the rather transparent Bitcoin, where the movement of money is tracked with absolute accuracy. In the current conditions of attempts of strict state control over citizens in different countries, Zcash is a currency that will be in demand by society.

Zcash has a trusted setup that could create an unlimited amount of undetectable zcash coins. This kills zcash from ever amounting to anything grandious FULL STOP. This will never be accepted.

Zcoin is the best option due to auditable supply and similar anonymity. The trade off is visible tx amounts, but thats not nearly as bad as an invisible dictator. Also hurts investor confidence for Zcash having this weakness.

[sheld0n]

In my opinion it depends on the use case. Do you need the most anonymous altcoin or just one of the available anonymous altcoins. The most securest is probably Zcoin. If you want a more widespread anonymous coin you should go with Monero, ZCash, Komodo, Dash or Cloak. The last one has become one of my most favourite private and anonymous coins. But as I said, it highly depends on your use case you need the coin for.

[Haunebu]

There are many popular anonymity based altcoins, but the one that interests me the most these days is DeepOnion. I like how it operates using the TOR browser and their community is awesome according to me.

[dballing]

There are many popular anonymity based altcoins, but the one that interests me the most these days is DeepOnion. I like how it operates using the TOR browser and their community is awesome according to me.

never heard of them. What exchanges are they traded on?

[Zicadis]

Well monero has been undisputedly been known to be the best anonymous altcoin todate but with third party services offering tumbling services for alts like ethereum it could challenge for that top spot considering it has the biggest market share among alts which gives it an advantage.

[MarioLuck990]

If underground world choose Monero, I will go with monero..

[romeo111]

Monero and Zcoin both are the most anonymous Altcoin. It is probably the only truly anonymous coin.
i hope will a good future in those coins as they are working well, in this crypto exchange.

[sasaku bitbit]

in my opinion the best Zcash than other altcoin because these coins totally anonymous in this crypto exchanges. I am very confident and believe in the future that provide advantages for both the holding and I also became interested in the success of the project will be a success until it can penetrate the market with crypto coins more

[cryptotal]

Monero , Verge are good ones with very active developers.

[John Langut]

Monero because it has ring signatures

[danny0201]

Monero. Although I'm very curious about deep onion. Looking forward to see the progress on that coin. It's  all about adoption, when some big darknet sites start using it it will go up real fast.

[allthebitandbobs]

 Monero for participial purposes  it is actually used on the dark markets

Best ones in future to used  spectre coin and deep onion

[CryptoLex]

There are several like Zcash, Monero and Pivx are already there or close to it

[sunhany]

I think Monero is the most famous anonymous altcoin, and its being adopted in the dark web because of that.

[bboyjohn]

In my opinion Monero is the best anonymous coin. Big marketcap, too many investors, trusty, big profits.

Zcash and deeponion looks good too. But i choose Monero

[LoyceV]

I'm amazed nobody mentioned Blackbytes in 4 pages.

Blackbytes!
Byteball has two build-in currencies: bytes and blackbytes. Bytes can be traded at Bittrex, blackbytes are untraceable and can't be traded at an exchange (yet). They can only be exchanged after pairing wallets. The Byteball wallet has a chat in which you can do this.

Analogy
Think of Blackbytes as a post-it handed to you by the previous owner. The post-it says: "you are now the new owner". Together with handing you the post-it, the DAG registers that the previous owner is no longer the owner of these Blackbytes. The DAG does not register who received the post-it.
Now, if you lose this post-it, the previous owner can simply give you another post-it that says: "you are now the new owner".
If you want to give your Blackbytes to someone else, your post-it contains all the information you need to create a new valid post-it for the receiving user, and to register the change of ownership in the DAG. Nobody else knows you're the owner, ownership is not registered anywhere.

So if I understand correctly, the public block chain is just a "bag of hashes" which cannot be verified or anything by any node or miner.  It is just a block chain of "data".  These data only have meaning for the people receiving "banknote files", which allows them to check the validity of the whole "banknote".  The hashes are in fact nothing else but hashes of "signed transactions", like with bitcoin, except that only the *signature hash* goes on the public block chain, and the actual transaction data remain on the individual banknote file.  Is that the gist ?  In fact, you need, as you say, TWO signatures (or hashes of signatures): one is the transaction signature (including the new beneficiary) and the other is the "spend" signature of simply the previous output.  The first signature (spending signature) makes that you cannot do double spending any more (you have invalidated the file up to the point where you transmit it), and the second signature allows the receiver to have a valid "new address" that he can spend (and only he, because only he has the secret key that goes with it like on bitcoin).

This is indeed a very, very good idea !

Further reading:
Byteball - smart payments made simple
BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments
Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ

[goraset]

monero is the best anonymous coin, I think

[TheMuppet]

If you want to make massive gains, the key is to pick a token with a small market cap:

Deep Onion is my #1 choice right now.

The community is amazing.

The tech is solid.

The charts look good.

LOVE IT.

[BeggarInCryptos]

The most anonymous coin out there are blackbytes, which exist within the Byteball platform. In fact, they are so anonymous that they cannot even be traded on exchanges. They can only be exchanged peer to peer on paired wallets. However, they can easily be traded anyway though bots which use smart contracts.

[scottish_xander]

Trezar TZC will be better than Zcoin in a few years

PivX is good but still overpriced
Dash is garbage. They went mainstream.
Zcash cannot be audited
Monero mints coins at will for fraudsters and nobody knows any different

[Lamperon]

Of course, Monero is the best of anonymous transfers and investing.

[andyblocks]

Monero and Blackbytes are the most anonymous. Zcash has also great anonymity features, but this huge percentage of mined coins that are given to the creators, as some kind of fee, makes it a bit centralized.

[h1h2h3_c]

Of course, Monero is the best of anonymous transfers and investing.

the truth is I’m not well aware about this Monero coin, because as everyone said it is anonymous , I think this is the reason that I can’t be able to know that pretty monero, but when I search about monero in dark web I’m very surprised.

[rainbow169]

I am a bit confused tbh. Edward Snowden said that ZCash is the only alternative coins interesting after bitcoin and is built by true professionals. But looks like many others also like monero. I guess probably between the two?

[Blazin8888]

Many developers put the anonymity of the priority today, but the leaders of anonymous cryptocurrencies are still monero, and zcash.

[CrazyCreeptonaut]

Monero and XSPEC
are the best anonymous coins
verge is just a trendy thing, but it wont be used for serious anonymous purposes like the two above
the other coins like pivx, zcash, dash are coins for privacy - not for anonymity
its different things !!

[fearcoka]

Of course, Monero is the best of anonymous transfers and investing.

the truth is I’m not well aware about this Monero coin, because as everyone said it is anonymous , I think this is the reason that I can’t be able to know that pretty monero, but when I search about monero in dark web I’m very surprised.

You can reseach about it through ANN thread or Speculation of Monero in this forum, every thing is from here.

ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0
Speculation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

I hope you can understand its great

[alex_mercer]

Monero and Blackbytes are the most anonymous. Zcash has also great anonymity features, but this huge percentage of mined coins that are given to the creators, as some kind of fee, makes it a bit centralized.

20% tax, wtf? Why it's so high?

[defc0de]

PIVX for me 

[MartiniBlanco]

I dont have one favorite anonymous altcoin, I have 3 favorite coins!

• Zcash
• Monero
• Verge

All three we see some nice attention in the next couple of years. All are good longterm invests in my opinion.

[rooster2000bka]

XMR coin is best coin for it! But you can used BTC or ETH ! This is best coin

[thelastman]

i don't know
but if i have to choose one
i 'll choose deeponion now
why?
well, is new cion of anonymous altcoin  and it still only sell or buy  in a small exchange!
when it hit a big exchange ,price will up up up probability

[Sync485]

i think noone can say best anonymous coin but some coins leading to this area. i think zcash and verge is leading.  didn't monero announced that they have found some mistakes at their blockchain?

[cryptojanne]

When Zencash get their masternodes up and running i think they'll be the best.

[Board-Room]

PIVX gets my vote.

[fortress]

i think noone can say best anonymous coin but some coins leading to this area. i think zcash and verge is leading.  didn't monero announced that they have found some mistakes at their blockchain?

I would be glad if you, or anybody else, provide us a link with this information, because as far as I know they have one of the best technologies when it comes to anonymity.

[sakkosekk]

I really do not know what is the best anonymous coin
But I'm only interested in bitcoin, look at criminals use them to buy prohibited sales, but no one knows who he is.