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Anyone else seen a big fall in their CP referral claims today?
How I wished they have a dashboard for that. Have any idea how many you've accrued? A reasonable amount now, although I lost a load when CP was hacked recently. Gradually building them back up though. You can check the number of referrals you have by visiting each faucet. Would be nice to have a total figure on CP though, together with total interest accrued as well.
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Hello to everyone. I had been using Coinpot multiplier successfully for more than a year, starting with 300 tokens and playing for 30,000 rolls daily, one token per roll. Some days, I won a little more, others a little less but things seemed steady. During June, I kept a log with my daily results to see if the so called 0% house edge is true.
Over 30 days and a little more than 900,000 rolls I recorded a result of 49.8% win - 50.2 % loss, so quite close to the advertised 0% house edge. There is no way to keep screenshots or logs of the rolls, so I just wrote the results down in a text file. You can choose to believe me or not, that's up to you but I have no reason to lie.
However, during the past week or so, something has changed. The multiplier roll have been devastatingly in favor of the house. The first day it happened, I hadn't even made 4000 rolls when I was out of tokens. Thinking that I had made a mistake somewhere, I collected more tokens and tried again the next day. Same results. Changing roll frequency had no positive effect. Yesterday I started with 300 tokens and only played 1000 rolls to get to the first star. When it was all over, I ended up with 240 tokens, even less than what I started with. With my poor math skills I calculate this as 300 starting tokens + 100 tokens from star= 400-240=160 tokens less than if the chances were 50% so 340 wins / 660 losses in 1000 rolls. 34% looks quite lower than 50% to me. I also tried with more tokens (about 1000) to begin with but the best I managed to get was a 40%-60% distribution in favor of Coinpot.
Evidently, there must be something wrong with the multiplier algorithm or they have just changed the odds silently. I am not complaining as I have made a few dollars over the year but this forces me to stop playing. Once again, I have no tangible proof for this but I see there are others with the same problems as me, so that's why I decided to register and post this.
I can give you my stats that I collected for last few weeks starting end of may. I rolled 100000 each with one token stake, no autorolls, for 58 days, the tokens I won by challenges are not included: -1100,0,200,-500,-450,0,-900,-200,-500,-250,0,-1300,-200,-600,-200,-100,-600,-250,-1100,-200,0,-800,-700,-300,-800,0,-800,-300,200,-500,-700,-200,100,-500,-400,-500,-500,-500,-1400,-1000,300,-700,-600,-500,0,-200,-500,-900,-800,-400,-350,-150,-200,-600,-400,-500,-400,-200 negative results: 48, +-0: 6, positive: 4. Average -430 tokens per day, thats ca. -2.50 $ in 58 days. But of course I won a lot more tokens through challenge stars so thats ok. But house edge = 0 is not true of course. In my stats it is ca. 0.4% and its fairly constant over this period.
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September 02, 2020, 04:50:13 AM |
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Anyone else seen a big fall in their CP referral claims today?
How I wished they have a dashboard for that. Have any idea how many you've accrued? A reasonable amount now, although I lost a load when CP was hacked recently. Gradually building them back up though. You can check the number of referrals you have by visiting each faucet. Would be nice to have a total figure on CP though, together with total interest accrued as well. Thanks, looks like the page has been revamped. Previously there were only some promotional materials and nothing else.
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maverick528
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This site is a scam.
It does not scam everyone, and not all the time (for all the ppl that will probably answer that they used it with no problems). I used it for years, and did a pair of small withdrawals to test it, and everything was fine. Why did I accumulate coins to a big amount?. Because I wanted to withdraw them to some sites that have a minimum depo amount. So what happened when I tried to make a big w/d? It was deducted from my balance , but was never sent. Searching in transactions it shows it has been cancelled, and the reason is that the account is terminated. I contacted them to the email they provide, but with no answer, and you can read several comments here that they NEVER answer the support mail. If you read the Terms of service, the problem is that they can terminate any account with or without reason and with no liability for it. It is not necessary to do some kind of abuse, its just a decision they made. Maybe trying to withdraw coins collected when BTC was at $4000 and now its at $12000 is a good reason for termination, they have to pay you at today´s price so its not a good deal (for them). So it is not a "microwallet service" cause you never owned the balances that are shown., it is not your wallet at all. AND the most important proof it is a scam is the way "account termination" works. Thre is NO place in the webpage or dashboard that shows your account is terminated. You can use all the faucet websites, and everything appears to work normally. Your balances increases, you can multiply tokens, you can increase your rank, you even get daily token rewards. Everything looks fine, so even if your account was terminated 1 year ago you continue to use the site and the faucets. You only discover the account is terminated when trying to withdraw. This is a scam, a "terminated" account can do everything, cant see the terminated status anywhere, does not even get a warning email or anything, because that way, they keep getting your clicks and your visits to the webpages, that brings more money to them. If you use faucets a lot, you already know how this scam works. There are thousands of pages out there that worked for some time, but then stoped paying, but the page keeps working like it formerly did. And they keep getting clicks and visits for years, even though they stopped paying.
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dabbur
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September 02, 2020, 09:22:48 PM Last edit: September 02, 2020, 09:42:17 PM by dabbur |
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This site is a scam.
It does not scam everyone, and not all the time (for all the ppl that will probably answer that they used it with no problems). I used it for years, and did a pair of small withdrawals to test it, and everything was fine. Why did I accumulate coins to a big amount?. Because I wanted to withdraw them to some sites that have a minimum depo amount. So what happened when I tried to make a big w/d? It was deducted from my balance , but was never sent. Searching in transactions it shows it has been cancelled, and the reason is that the account is terminated. I contacted them to the email they provide, but with no answer, and you can read several comments here that they NEVER answer the support mail. If you read the Terms of service, the problem is that they can terminate any account with or without reason and with no liability for it. It is not necessary to do some kind of abuse, its just a decision they made. Maybe trying to withdraw coins collected when BTC was at $4000 and now its at $12000 is a good reason for termination, they have to pay you at today´s price so its not a good deal (for them). So it is not a "microwallet service" cause you never owned the balances that are shown., it is not your wallet at all. AND the most important proof it is a scam is the way "account termination" works. Thre is NO place in the webpage or dashboard that shows your account is terminated. You can use all the faucet websites, and everything appears to work normally. Your balances increases, you can multiply tokens, you can increase your rank, you even get daily token rewards. Everything looks fine, so even if your account was terminated 1 year ago you continue to use the site and the faucets. You only discover the account is terminated when trying to withdraw. This is a scam, a "terminated" account can do everything, cant see the terminated status anywhere, does not even get a warning email or anything, because that way, they keep getting your clicks and your visits to the webpages, that brings more money to them. If you use faucets a lot, you already know how this scam works. There are thousands of pages out there that worked for some time, but then stoped paying, but the page keeps working like it formerly did. And they keep getting clicks and visits for years, even though they stopped paying.
So you learned something, right? Never hold higher balances at sites with no forum, no support, dont know who runs the site not even from which country, dont know if the site is offline forever tomorrow. Accumulate higher balances at your own wallet with own private key. I use this faucets for years too but I did hundreds of cashouts (coins with low network fees never stupid btc). I lost 3 of my accounts so far (dont know why) but only 1-2 Dollars gone with them. I hope you did not quit with coinpot- open new account and take a few bucks from them - they deserve it.
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September 03, 2020, 07:02:00 AM |
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Most people don't just blindly trust a website to always be perfect and never make mistakes. If billion dollar companies like Microsoft, Netflix, and Google have no foolproof way of accurately detecting fraud 100% of the time then I seriously doubt a faucet with a less than stellar reputation is as infallible as you make them out to be. False positives are normal and should be expected when relying on automated fraud detection systems. Unfortunately, there is no transparency whatsoever and we have no way of knowing whether people are being unfairly punished, specifically being targeted, or if they are actual cheaters. Unlike any other website with significant presence in crypto they don't offer customer support and they stay away from public forums and social media.
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September 03, 2020, 08:16:21 AM |
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This site is a scam.
It does not scam everyone, and not all the time (for all the ppl that will probably answer that they used it with no problems). I used it for years, and did a pair of small withdrawals to test it, and everything was fine. Why did I accumulate coins to a big amount?. Because I wanted to withdraw them to some sites that have a minimum depo amount. So what happened when I tried to make a big w/d? It was deducted from my balance , but was never sent. Searching in transactions it shows it has been cancelled, and the reason is that the account is terminated. I contacted them to the email they provide, but with no answer, and you can read several comments here that they NEVER answer the support mail. If you read the Terms of service, the problem is that they can terminate any account with or without reason and with no liability for it. It is not necessary to do some kind of abuse, its just a decision they made. Maybe trying to withdraw coins collected when BTC was at $4000 and now its at $12000 is a good reason for termination, they have to pay you at today´s price so its not a good deal (for them). So it is not a "microwallet service" cause you never owned the balances that are shown., it is not your wallet at all. AND the most important proof it is a scam is the way "account termination" works. Thre is NO place in the webpage or dashboard that shows your account is terminated. You can use all the faucet websites, and everything appears to work normally. Your balances increases, you can multiply tokens, you can increase your rank, you even get daily token rewards. Everything looks fine, so even if your account was terminated 1 year ago you continue to use the site and the faucets. You only discover the account is terminated when trying to withdraw. This is a scam, a "terminated" account can do everything, cant see the terminated status anywhere, does not even get a warning email or anything, because that way, they keep getting your clicks and your visits to the webpages, that brings more money to them. If you use faucets a lot, you already know how this scam works. There are thousands of pages out there that worked for some time, but then stoped paying, but the page keeps working like it formerly did. And they keep getting clicks and visits for years, even though they stopped paying.
So you learned something, right? Never hold higher balances at sites with no forum, no support, dont know who runs the site not even from which country, dont know if the site is offline forever tomorrow. Accumulate higher balances at your own wallet with own private key. I use this faucets for years too but I did hundreds of cashouts (coins with low network fees never stupid btc). I lost 3 of my accounts so far (dont know why) but only 1-2 Dollars gone with them. I hope you did not quit with coinpot- open new account and take a few bucks from them - they deserve it. But you are part of the problem as well. You even admit to it in your reply: "I lost 3 of my accounts...". Multiple accounts are against CP rules - this is clearly stated in their terms, yet you say you don't know why it happened to you. Just think about it for a second.
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September 03, 2020, 08:30:45 AM |
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Most people don't just blindly trust a website to always be perfect and never make mistakes. If billion dollar companies like Microsoft, Netflix, and Google have no foolproof way of accurately detecting fraud 100% of the time then I seriously doubt a faucet with a less than stellar reputation is as infallible as you make them out to be. False positives are normal and should be expected when relying on automated fraud detection systems. Unfortunately, there is no transparency whatsoever and we have no way of knowing whether people are being unfairly punished, specifically being targeted, or if they are actual cheaters. Unlike any other website with significant presence in crypto they don't offer customer support and they stay away from public forums and social media. i don't make anyone out to be infallible and i don't blindly trust - i (and many others like me) have used coinpot for a long while without having to use multiple accounts, not running multiple multiplier tabs, not ad-blocking, nor trying to cheat or game their system. i feel safe that my account will not be blocked. as i've said several times before on this thread...coinpot makes their money from advertising. so from their point of view more ad impressions/clicks = more revenue. so it is not in their business interest to ban genuine honest users i'm not saying it has never happened, but i cannot see any reason why they would do it unfairly/maliciously they offer customer support - i have replies twice from them in the past from email enquiries - but in that news post it clearly says that they wont enter into discussions with cheaters/fraudulent users
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grahamlyons
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September 03, 2020, 08:32:30 AM |
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This site is a scam.
It does not scam everyone, and not all the time (for all the ppl that will probably answer that they used it with no problems). I used it for years, and did a pair of small withdrawals to test it, and everything was fine. Why did I accumulate coins to a big amount?. Because I wanted to withdraw them to some sites that have a minimum depo amount. So what happened when I tried to make a big w/d? It was deducted from my balance , but was never sent. Searching in transactions it shows it has been cancelled, and the reason is that the account is terminated. I contacted them to the email they provide, but with no answer, and you can read several comments here that they NEVER answer the support mail. If you read the Terms of service, the problem is that they can terminate any account with or without reason and with no liability for it. It is not necessary to do some kind of abuse, its just a decision they made. Maybe trying to withdraw coins collected when BTC was at $4000 and now its at $12000 is a good reason for termination, they have to pay you at today´s price so its not a good deal (for them). So it is not a "microwallet service" cause you never owned the balances that are shown., it is not your wallet at all. AND the most important proof it is a scam is the way "account termination" works. Thre is NO place in the webpage or dashboard that shows your account is terminated. You can use all the faucet websites, and everything appears to work normally. Your balances increases, you can multiply tokens, you can increase your rank, you even get daily token rewards. Everything looks fine, so even if your account was terminated 1 year ago you continue to use the site and the faucets. You only discover the account is terminated when trying to withdraw. This is a scam, a "terminated" account can do everything, cant see the terminated status anywhere, does not even get a warning email or anything, because that way, they keep getting your clicks and your visits to the webpages, that brings more money to them. If you use faucets a lot, you already know how this scam works. There are thousands of pages out there that worked for some time, but then stoped paying, but the page keeps working like it formerly did. And they keep getting clicks and visits for years, even though they stopped paying.
So you learned something, right? Never hold higher balances at sites with no forum, no support, dont know who runs the site not even from which country, dont know if the site is offline forever tomorrow. Accumulate higher balances at your own wallet with own private key. I use this faucets for years too but I did hundreds of cashouts (coins with low network fees never stupid btc). I lost 3 of my accounts so far (dont know why) but only 1-2 Dollars gone with them. I hope you did not quit with coinpot- open new account and take a few bucks from them - they deserve it. But you are part of the problem as well. You even admit to it in your reply: "I lost 3 of my accounts...". Multiple accounts are against CP rules - this is clearly stated in their terms, yet you say you don't know why it happened to you. Just think about it for a second. exactly, well said like many others in this thread laughing about how they block ads, run many multiplier tabs, try to cheat/game the challenges system - you can't really then come crying when your account is blocked
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dabbur
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September 03, 2020, 08:52:50 AM Last edit: September 03, 2020, 01:08:04 PM by dabbur |
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This site is a scam.
It does not scam everyone, and not all the time (for all the ppl that will probably answer that they used it with no problems). I used it for years, and did a pair of small withdrawals to test it, and everything was fine. Why did I accumulate coins to a big amount?. Because I wanted to withdraw them to some sites that have a minimum depo amount. So what happened when I tried to make a big w/d? It was deducted from my balance , but was never sent. Searching in transactions it shows it has been cancelled, and the reason is that the account is terminated. I contacted them to the email they provide, but with no answer, and you can read several comments here that they NEVER answer the support mail. If you read the Terms of service, the problem is that they can terminate any account with or without reason and with no liability for it. It is not necessary to do some kind of abuse, its just a decision they made. Maybe trying to withdraw coins collected when BTC was at $4000 and now its at $12000 is a good reason for termination, they have to pay you at today´s price so its not a good deal (for them). So it is not a "microwallet service" cause you never owned the balances that are shown., it is not your wallet at all. AND the most important proof it is a scam is the way "account termination" works. Thre is NO place in the webpage or dashboard that shows your account is terminated. You can use all the faucet websites, and everything appears to work normally. Your balances increases, you can multiply tokens, you can increase your rank, you even get daily token rewards. Everything looks fine, so even if your account was terminated 1 year ago you continue to use the site and the faucets. You only discover the account is terminated when trying to withdraw. This is a scam, a "terminated" account can do everything, cant see the terminated status anywhere, does not even get a warning email or anything, because that way, they keep getting your clicks and your visits to the webpages, that brings more money to them. If you use faucets a lot, you already know how this scam works. There are thousands of pages out there that worked for some time, but then stoped paying, but the page keeps working like it formerly did. And they keep getting clicks and visits for years, even though they stopped paying.
So you learned something, right? Never hold higher balances at sites with no forum, no support, dont know who runs the site not even from which country, dont know if the site is offline forever tomorrow. Accumulate higher balances at your own wallet with own private key. I use this faucets for years too but I did hundreds of cashouts (coins with low network fees never stupid btc). I lost 3 of my accounts so far (dont know why) but only 1-2 Dollars gone with them. I hope you did not quit with coinpot- open new account and take a few bucks from them - they deserve it. But you are part of the problem as well. You even admit to it in your reply: "I lost 3 of my accounts...". Multiple accounts are against CP rules - this is clearly stated in their terms, yet you say you don't know why it happened to you. Just think about it for a second. If I cant log in for few days or weeks cos getting no mails from coinpot anymore, then I open a new account. Dont know if I was banned, just no login possible at 3 of my former accounts. And I dont have any problem with coinpot cos i make profit. This is whats all about with faucets.
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September 03, 2020, 01:25:57 PM |
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This site is a scam.
It does not scam everyone, and not all the time (for all the ppl that will probably answer that they used it with no problems). I used it for years, and did a pair of small withdrawals to test it, and everything was fine. Why did I accumulate coins to a big amount?. Because I wanted to withdraw them to some sites that have a minimum depo amount. So what happened when I tried to make a big w/d? It was deducted from my balance , but was never sent. Searching in transactions it shows it has been cancelled, and the reason is that the account is terminated. I contacted them to the email they provide, but with no answer, and you can read several comments here that they NEVER answer the support mail. If you read the Terms of service, the problem is that they can terminate any account with or without reason and with no liability for it. It is not necessary to do some kind of abuse, its just a decision they made. Maybe trying to withdraw coins collected when BTC was at $4000 and now its at $12000 is a good reason for termination, they have to pay you at today´s price so its not a good deal (for them). So it is not a "microwallet service" cause you never owned the balances that are shown., it is not your wallet at all. AND the most important proof it is a scam is the way "account termination" works. Thre is NO place in the webpage or dashboard that shows your account is terminated. You can use all the faucet websites, and everything appears to work normally. Your balances increases, you can multiply tokens, you can increase your rank, you even get daily token rewards. Everything looks fine, so even if your account was terminated 1 year ago you continue to use the site and the faucets. You only discover the account is terminated when trying to withdraw. This is a scam, a "terminated" account can do everything, cant see the terminated status anywhere, does not even get a warning email or anything, because that way, they keep getting your clicks and your visits to the webpages, that brings more money to them. If you use faucets a lot, you already know how this scam works. There are thousands of pages out there that worked for some time, but then stoped paying, but the page keeps working like it formerly did. And they keep getting clicks and visits for years, even though they stopped paying.
So you learned something, right? Never hold higher balances at sites with no forum, no support, dont know who runs the site not even from which country, dont know if the site is offline forever tomorrow. Accumulate higher balances at your own wallet with own private key. I use this faucets for years too but I did hundreds of cashouts (coins with low network fees never stupid btc). I lost 3 of my accounts so far (dont know why) but only 1-2 Dollars gone with them. I hope you did not quit with coinpot- open new account and take a few bucks from them - they deserve it. But you are part of the problem as well. You even admit to it in your reply: "I lost 3 of my accounts...". Multiple accounts are against CP rules - this is clearly stated in their terms, yet you say you don't know why it happened to you. Just think about it for a second. exactly, well said like many others in this thread laughing about how they block ads, run many multiplier tabs, try to cheat/game the challenges system - you can't really then come crying when your account is blocked But I guess that coinpot is not a poor site that has to cry a lot because of users cheat either. Did you have a look at the ads there? min. 50% of them are ponzi scam bullshit and i bet that mellowads is run by owner of coinpot and some of this scam sites are from coinpot owner. I am sure that coinpot makes a lot of profit by fraud too - the grabbing hands grab all they can - this is valid for users and providers.
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maverick528
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September 03, 2020, 04:18:15 PM |
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And what happens if you are blocked anyway if you dont cheat or multiaccount in any way ?. I didnt. As I said, they can block an account with NO reason (for example, if you have a big amount to withdraw and its not "fair" to them that it was collected when coins were much cheaper, but it wasnt against any "rule"). If they put this in the Terms of Service from the beggining, then its clear it can be used when they want. And while everybody replied talking about abusers, nobody replied about the scammy way the account blocking is implemented. Nowhere in the website it shows that your account is blocked. Support does not reply you, so I suppose if you ask if you are blocked currently they will not answer. You can collect coins on all faucets, multiply tokens, get bonus point and increase your rank, everything looks like normal. This is a SCAM account block, some ppl can be blocked for months without knowing it AND are making money for ths scam site by using it. IF you are HONEST and want to block somebody, BLOCK the user. Period. This is like a casino that allows you to depo and play, but then you cant withdraw cause you are "blocked" (but you discover that you were blocked only when you tried to withdraw) ...... Would you depo your money in a casino that works this way, and that can block any account at random, and that is specified in the Terms of Service ?.
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September 03, 2020, 04:49:36 PM |
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And what happens if you are blocked anyway if you dont cheat or multiaccount in any way ?. I didnt. As I said, they can block an account with NO reason (for example, if you have a big amount to withdraw and its not "fair" to them that it was collected when coins were much cheaper, but it wasnt against any "rule"). If they put this in the Terms of Service from the beggining, then its clear it can be used when they want. And while everybody replied talking about abusers, nobody replied about the scammy way the account blocking is implemented. Nowhere in the website it shows that your account is blocked. Support does not reply you, so I suppose if you ask if you are blocked currently they will not answer. You can collect coins on all faucets, multiply tokens, get bonus point and increase your rank, everything looks like normal. This is a SCAM account block, some ppl can be blocked for months without knowing it AND are making money for ths scam site by using it. IF you are HONEST and want to block somebody, BLOCK the user. Period. This is like a casino that allows you to depo and play, but then you cant withdraw cause you are "blocked" (but you discover that you were blocked only when you tried to withdraw) ...... Would you depo your money in a casino that works this way, and that can block any account at random, and that is specified in the Terms of Service ?. No, I would not depo my money in a casino and not depo or hold in a faucet cos its not a bank but a flimsy construction. Withdraw as often as you can and you have no problem.
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September 03, 2020, 06:17:32 PM |
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Most people don't just blindly trust a website to always be perfect and never make mistakes. If billion dollar companies like Microsoft, Netflix, and Google have no foolproof way of accurately detecting fraud 100% of the time then I seriously doubt a faucet with a less than stellar reputation is as infallible as you make them out to be. False positives are normal and should be expected when relying on automated fraud detection systems. Unfortunately, there is no transparency whatsoever and we have no way of knowing whether people are being unfairly punished, specifically being targeted, or if they are actual cheaters. Unlike any other website with significant presence in crypto they don't offer customer support and they stay away from public forums and social media. i don't make anyone out to be infallible and i don't blindly trust - i (and many others like me) have used coinpot for a long while without having to use multiple accounts, not running multiple multiplier tabs, not ad-blocking, nor trying to cheat or game their system. i feel safe that my account will not be blocked. as i've said several times before on this thread...coinpot makes their money from advertising. so from their point of view more ad impressions/clicks = more revenue. so it is not in their business interest to ban genuine honest users i'm not saying it has never happened, but i cannot see any reason why they would do it unfairly/maliciously they offer customer support - i have replies twice from them in the past from email enquiries - but in that news post it clearly says that they wont enter into discussions with cheaters/fraudulent users That is just a lie. I've contacted them before about changing my email address and also for a withdrawal that failed because they were trying to spend the same coins in separate transactions. They never answer. It has nothing to do with not wanting to engage with cheaters. They are probably inundated with complaints because of how poorly they run their sites and would rather not deal with criticism and being held accountable so they just go into hiding.
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Most people don't just blindly trust a website to always be perfect and never make mistakes. If billion dollar companies like Microsoft, Netflix, and Google have no foolproof way of accurately detecting fraud 100% of the time then I seriously doubt a faucet with a less than stellar reputation is as infallible as you make them out to be. False positives are normal and should be expected when relying on automated fraud detection systems. Unfortunately, there is no transparency whatsoever and we have no way of knowing whether people are being unfairly punished, specifically being targeted, or if they are actual cheaters. Unlike any other website with significant presence in crypto they don't offer customer support and they stay away from public forums and social media. i don't make anyone out to be infallible and i don't blindly trust - i (and many others like me) have used coinpot for a long while without having to use multiple accounts, not running multiple multiplier tabs, not ad-blocking, nor trying to cheat or game their system. i feel safe that my account will not be blocked. as i've said several times before on this thread...coinpot makes their money from advertising. so from their point of view more ad impressions/clicks = more revenue. so it is not in their business interest to ban genuine honest users i'm not saying it has never happened, but i cannot see any reason why they would do it unfairly/maliciously they offer customer support - i have replies twice from them in the past from email enquiries - but in that news post it clearly says that they wont enter into discussions with cheaters/fraudulent users That is just a lie. I've contacted them before about changing my email address and also for a withdrawal that failed because they were trying to spend the same coins in separate transactions. They never answer. It has nothing to do with not wanting to engage with cheaters. They are probably inundated with complaints because of how poorly they run their sites and would rather not deal with criticism and being held accountable so they just go into hiding. ok we are just going around in circles now it's simple, if you cheat you are hurting the site and ultimately the other, honest users will get worse service/lower payouts etc so when you get caught, don't get butthurt and don't expect them to treat you nicely in return and waste time and resources replying to your complaining emails as they mentioned in the news post, all faucet/casino sites face the same problems. for fun, take a look at the freebitcoin threads which are full of whingers and whiners also. same reasons i expect
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FinneysTrueVision
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September 03, 2020, 11:56:14 PM |
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Most people don't just blindly trust a website to always be perfect and never make mistakes. If billion dollar companies like Microsoft, Netflix, and Google have no foolproof way of accurately detecting fraud 100% of the time then I seriously doubt a faucet with a less than stellar reputation is as infallible as you make them out to be. False positives are normal and should be expected when relying on automated fraud detection systems. Unfortunately, there is no transparency whatsoever and we have no way of knowing whether people are being unfairly punished, specifically being targeted, or if they are actual cheaters. Unlike any other website with significant presence in crypto they don't offer customer support and they stay away from public forums and social media. i don't make anyone out to be infallible and i don't blindly trust - i (and many others like me) have used coinpot for a long while without having to use multiple accounts, not running multiple multiplier tabs, not ad-blocking, nor trying to cheat or game their system. i feel safe that my account will not be blocked. as i've said several times before on this thread...coinpot makes their money from advertising. so from their point of view more ad impressions/clicks = more revenue. so it is not in their business interest to ban genuine honest users i'm not saying it has never happened, but i cannot see any reason why they would do it unfairly/maliciously they offer customer support - i have replies twice from them in the past from email enquiries - but in that news post it clearly says that they wont enter into discussions with cheaters/fraudulent users That is just a lie. I've contacted them before about changing my email address and also for a withdrawal that failed because they were trying to spend the same coins in separate transactions. They never answer. It has nothing to do with not wanting to engage with cheaters. They are probably inundated with complaints because of how poorly they run their sites and would rather not deal with criticism and being held accountable so they just go into hiding. ok we are just going around in circles now it's simple, if you cheat you are hurting the site and ultimately the other, honest users will get worse service/lower payouts etc so when you get caught, don't get butthurt and don't expect them to treat you nicely in return and waste time and resources replying to your complaining emails as they mentioned in the news post, all faucet/casino sites face the same problems. for fun, take a look at the freebitcoin threads which are full of whingers and whiners also. same reasons i expect I've never been caught cheating, stop deflecting and using logical fallacies. They don't respond to support complaints no matter what reason you have for contacting them. The difference between ScamPot and FreeBitco.in is that FreeBitco.in actually responds to emails and always provides evidence when they ban people.
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grahamlyons
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September 04, 2020, 12:08:25 AM |
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Most people don't just blindly trust a website to always be perfect and never make mistakes. If billion dollar companies like Microsoft, Netflix, and Google have no foolproof way of accurately detecting fraud 100% of the time then I seriously doubt a faucet with a less than stellar reputation is as infallible as you make them out to be. False positives are normal and should be expected when relying on automated fraud detection systems. Unfortunately, there is no transparency whatsoever and we have no way of knowing whether people are being unfairly punished, specifically being targeted, or if they are actual cheaters. Unlike any other website with significant presence in crypto they don't offer customer support and they stay away from public forums and social media. i don't make anyone out to be infallible and i don't blindly trust - i (and many others like me) have used coinpot for a long while without having to use multiple accounts, not running multiple multiplier tabs, not ad-blocking, nor trying to cheat or game their system. i feel safe that my account will not be blocked. as i've said several times before on this thread...coinpot makes their money from advertising. so from their point of view more ad impressions/clicks = more revenue. so it is not in their business interest to ban genuine honest users i'm not saying it has never happened, but i cannot see any reason why they would do it unfairly/maliciously they offer customer support - i have replies twice from them in the past from email enquiries - but in that news post it clearly says that they wont enter into discussions with cheaters/fraudulent users That is just a lie. I've contacted them before about changing my email address and also for a withdrawal that failed because they were trying to spend the same coins in separate transactions. They never answer. It has nothing to do with not wanting to engage with cheaters. They are probably inundated with complaints because of how poorly they run their sites and would rather not deal with criticism and being held accountable so they just go into hiding. ok we are just going around in circles now it's simple, if you cheat you are hurting the site and ultimately the other, honest users will get worse service/lower payouts etc so when you get caught, don't get butthurt and don't expect them to treat you nicely in return and waste time and resources replying to your complaining emails as they mentioned in the news post, all faucet/casino sites face the same problems. for fun, take a look at the freebitcoin threads which are full of whingers and whiners also. same reasons i expect I've never been caught cheating, stop deflecting and using logical fallacies. They don't respond to support complaints no matter what reason you have for contacting them. The difference between ScamPot and FreeBitco.in is that FreeBitco.in actually responds to emails and always provides evidence when they ban people. ok so "ScamPot" is is "poorly run" and is cheating/scamming good honest people like yourself? probably should just stay away from it then as they will obviously be out of business soon
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FinneysTrueVision
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September 04, 2020, 12:52:26 AM |
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Most people don't just blindly trust a website to always be perfect and never make mistakes. If billion dollar companies like Microsoft, Netflix, and Google have no foolproof way of accurately detecting fraud 100% of the time then I seriously doubt a faucet with a less than stellar reputation is as infallible as you make them out to be. False positives are normal and should be expected when relying on automated fraud detection systems. Unfortunately, there is no transparency whatsoever and we have no way of knowing whether people are being unfairly punished, specifically being targeted, or if they are actual cheaters. Unlike any other website with significant presence in crypto they don't offer customer support and they stay away from public forums and social media. i don't make anyone out to be infallible and i don't blindly trust - i (and many others like me) have used coinpot for a long while without having to use multiple accounts, not running multiple multiplier tabs, not ad-blocking, nor trying to cheat or game their system. i feel safe that my account will not be blocked. as i've said several times before on this thread...coinpot makes their money from advertising. so from their point of view more ad impressions/clicks = more revenue. so it is not in their business interest to ban genuine honest users i'm not saying it has never happened, but i cannot see any reason why they would do it unfairly/maliciously they offer customer support - i have replies twice from them in the past from email enquiries - but in that news post it clearly says that they wont enter into discussions with cheaters/fraudulent users That is just a lie. I've contacted them before about changing my email address and also for a withdrawal that failed because they were trying to spend the same coins in separate transactions. They never answer. It has nothing to do with not wanting to engage with cheaters. They are probably inundated with complaints because of how poorly they run their sites and would rather not deal with criticism and being held accountable so they just go into hiding. ok we are just going around in circles now it's simple, if you cheat you are hurting the site and ultimately the other, honest users will get worse service/lower payouts etc so when you get caught, don't get butthurt and don't expect them to treat you nicely in return and waste time and resources replying to your complaining emails as they mentioned in the news post, all faucet/casino sites face the same problems. for fun, take a look at the freebitcoin threads which are full of whingers and whiners also. same reasons i expect I've never been caught cheating, stop deflecting and using logical fallacies. They don't respond to support complaints no matter what reason you have for contacting them. The difference between ScamPot and FreeBitco.in is that FreeBitco.in actually responds to emails and always provides evidence when they ban people. ok so "ScamPot" is is "poorly run" and is cheating/scamming good honest people like yourself? probably should just stay away from it then as they will obviously be out of business soon Another deflection. Not even the shills can come up with a convincing enough defense.
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grahamlyons
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September 04, 2020, 02:06:57 AM |
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Most people don't just blindly trust a website to always be perfect and never make mistakes. If billion dollar companies like Microsoft, Netflix, and Google have no foolproof way of accurately detecting fraud 100% of the time then I seriously doubt a faucet with a less than stellar reputation is as infallible as you make them out to be. False positives are normal and should be expected when relying on automated fraud detection systems. Unfortunately, there is no transparency whatsoever and we have no way of knowing whether people are being unfairly punished, specifically being targeted, or if they are actual cheaters. Unlike any other website with significant presence in crypto they don't offer customer support and they stay away from public forums and social media. i don't make anyone out to be infallible and i don't blindly trust - i (and many others like me) have used coinpot for a long while without having to use multiple accounts, not running multiple multiplier tabs, not ad-blocking, nor trying to cheat or game their system. i feel safe that my account will not be blocked. as i've said several times before on this thread...coinpot makes their money from advertising. so from their point of view more ad impressions/clicks = more revenue. so it is not in their business interest to ban genuine honest users i'm not saying it has never happened, but i cannot see any reason why they would do it unfairly/maliciously they offer customer support - i have replies twice from them in the past from email enquiries - but in that news post it clearly says that they wont enter into discussions with cheaters/fraudulent users That is just a lie. I've contacted them before about changing my email address and also for a withdrawal that failed because they were trying to spend the same coins in separate transactions. They never answer. It has nothing to do with not wanting to engage with cheaters. They are probably inundated with complaints because of how poorly they run their sites and would rather not deal with criticism and being held accountable so they just go into hiding. ok we are just going around in circles now it's simple, if you cheat you are hurting the site and ultimately the other, honest users will get worse service/lower payouts etc so when you get caught, don't get butthurt and don't expect them to treat you nicely in return and waste time and resources replying to your complaining emails as they mentioned in the news post, all faucet/casino sites face the same problems. for fun, take a look at the freebitcoin threads which are full of whingers and whiners also. same reasons i expect I've never been caught cheating, stop deflecting and using logical fallacies. They don't respond to support complaints no matter what reason you have for contacting them. The difference between ScamPot and FreeBitco.in is that FreeBitco.in actually responds to emails and always provides evidence when they ban people. ok so "ScamPot" is is "poorly run" and is cheating/scamming good honest people like yourself? probably should just stay away from it then as they will obviously be out of business soon Another deflection. Not even the shills can come up with a convincing enough defense. shills to the hills btw just got my latest btc and doge withdrawals safely in my wallet crime doesn't pay
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