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July 08, 2017, 04:59:42 PM
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The Bitmain-Ver PBOC sponsored attack on Bitcoin is increasingly obvious as the spam attacks become increasingly less organic and happening right in key moments where hardfork FUD is being spread.

Segwit2x will soon join XT, Classic, and Unlimited into the also ever increasing list of Failed Bitcoin Takeover attempts.

Sorry, no hard forks for you.

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July 08, 2017, 05:04:08 PM
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The block 470824 is a dead giveaway on what was going on. Now transactions are again confirming with fees as long as 0.03 BTC. It's obvious the Ver money was running out of steam and as soon as the miners agreed on segwit2x, the money stream for the spam was cut, because they are saving it to push the spam attack again in probably one of the up and coming key dates such as mid or end July, first of mid august, or around October-November or even December where the hardfork drums of war will be at all time highs.

Very sad, and clear strategy of the big blockers here at play. I wonder how much money has Ver wasted already on all this big block propaganda.

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July 08, 2017, 05:52:48 PM
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wow that's a close call.
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July 08, 2017, 06:34:28 PM
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Cool. I like that strong scientific analytics here. It must come out that way..


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July 08, 2017, 06:48:15 PM
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lol

segwit2x = barry silbert

barry silbert = blockstream puppet master. all barry wants is segwit activated ASAP, all spam+propaganda leads back to barry even the tx spam that started when core bips "needed" to be pushed,

check out the mempool spam accelerate in october-november 2016.. oh and a spike around the june '16 period the other core bip needed some attention..

and if you dont think that barry is a puppetmaster. go check out his portfolio of companies he has OWNERSHIP stake in
http://dcg.co/portfolio/
blockstream
coinbase
BTCC
bloq


people can point fingers in different directions all they like, but if you follow the money and drama, its clear to see the strings

nice try pereira4, but next time you and billy really should stop trying to grasp empty staws from reddit and do some real research




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July 08, 2017, 07:44:14 PM
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That could confirm what many of us have been saying for a long time. Things like.

#1 The block size debate should have been more about implementing methods to prevent spam DDoS transactions.

#2 Block size was never the issue, the real problem was nefarious activity which couldn't be classified as legitimate user behavior.

#3 Increasing block size wouldn't fix the issue as larger block sizes would never stop or prevent DDoS transaction spam.

Etc, etc.

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July 08, 2017, 08:00:29 PM
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I didn't think that there were people the doubted the spam attacks being used as a means of encouraging a shift to/from a specific fork that someone wanted to implement. I will say that I wasn't sure if it was just miners trying to push fees higher so that they would make more money or if it was some shot at a power grab.

Based on what I am seeing in this thread it might just be a shitpost or there might be some seriousness to the graphic provided.














 

 

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July 08, 2017, 08:40:53 PM
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lol

segwit2x = barry silbert

barry silbert = blockstream puppet master. all barry wants is segwit activated ASAP, all spam+propaganda leads back to barry even the tx spam that started when core bips "needed" to be pushed,

check out the mempool spam accelerate in october-november 2016.. oh and a spike around the june '16 period the other core bip needed some attention..

and if you dont think that barry is a puppetmaster. go check out his portfolio of companies he has OWNERSHIP stake in
http://dcg.co/portfolio/
blockstream
coinbase
BTCC
bloq


people can point fingers in different directions all they like, but if you follow the money and drama, its clear to see the strings

nice try pereira4, but next time you and billy really should stop trying to grasp empty staws from reddit and do some real research


Hey franky, what's your prediction on who pulls out of the agreement first?

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July 08, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
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lol

segwit2x = barry silbert

barry silbert = blockstream puppet master. all barry wants is segwit activated ASAP, all spam+propaganda leads back to barry even the tx spam that started when core bips "needed" to be pushed,

check out the mempool spam accelerate in october-november 2016.. oh and a spike around the june '16 period the other core bip needed some attention..

and if you dont think that barry is a puppetmaster. go check out his portfolio of companies he has OWNERSHIP stake in
http://dcg.co/portfolio/
blockstream
coinbase
BTCC
bloq


people can point fingers in different directions all they like, but if you follow the money and drama, its clear to see the strings

nice try pereira4, but next time you and billy really should stop trying to grasp empty staws from reddit and do some real research





you are right !
see where DGC (Digital Currency Group) is shareholder too. there SO MANY shills and brainwashed here.  the last ones think that they really count.  LOL

few gangs "own" the e-currency called Bitcoin. they manipulate the market, they own the biggest exchangers, the BTC developers(yes, they pay them) , biggest wallets , miners and BTC media.

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July 08, 2017, 09:59:50 PM
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lol

segwit2x = barry silbert

barry silbert = blockstream puppet master. all barry wants is segwit activated ASAP, all spam+propaganda leads back to barry even the tx spam that started when core bips "needed" to be pushed,

check out the mempool spam accelerate in october-november 2016.. oh and a spike around the june '16 period the other core bip needed some attention..

nice try pereira4, but next time you and billy really should stop trying to grasp empty staws from reddit and do some real research





you are right !
see where DGC (Digital Currency Group) is shareholder too. there SO MANY shills and brainwashed here.  the last ones think that they really count.  LOL

few gangs "own" the e-currency called Bitcoin. they manipulate the market, they own the biggest exchangers, the BTC developers(yes, they pay them) , biggest wallets , miners and BTC media.



Bingo franky1. Funny that he would try to pin the mempool spam on Ver, obviously it was Core/DCG/Blockstream shills FUDing for Segwit adoption. It didn't work so they switched to the UASF tactic. Peter Todd is working behind the scenes (shaolinfry) as Ethereum takes more and more Bitcoin market share away.
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July 08, 2017, 11:52:44 PM
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How are we sure it is them exactly though? What if someone else is pulling the strings but the whole time Bitmain/Ver seem to be the enemy...

What if other miners really do want to do this but they just publicly lie about it?



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July 09, 2017, 12:33:56 AM
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Spam attacks are never organic, it's been obvious since day one when the backlogs grew it was to push an agenda, regardless of who was pushing.

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July 21 to July 29 cards are on the table.

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July 09, 2017, 02:38:37 AM
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i no longer know what is going on with bitcoin Cheesy
i was actually excited about SegWit2x and thought with the big miners support we can finally get SegWit but i don't get why all the fights are about anymore and each time i read one of these topics i don't see any clues either, just the same things being repeated!


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funny stuff here

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July 09, 2017, 05:56:24 AM
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Sorry, no hard forks for you.

Give us one reason why expanding the transaction throughput size (as has been done in the past) should not happen again, now?

Are you against bitcoin being used as a currency? Do you have a big position in Litecoin, Dash, or Monero and hope that Bitcoin will die so your preferred alt will flourish?

And segwit seems to open a lot of risk if we're going to separate the actual transaction from the thing that verifies the who, what, and when of the transaction.

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Bingo franky1. Funny that he would try to pin the mempool spam on Ver, obviously it was Core/DCG/Blockstream shills FUDing for Segwit adoption. It didn't work so they switched to the UASF tactic. Peter Todd is working behind the scenes (shaolinfry) as Ethereum takes more and more Bitcoin market share away.

LOL
your wrong about the bold part
the market CAP is a empty bubble number of empty maths and no financial backing. and has nothing to do with REAL MARKET SHARE

until ethereum shows real stats of USERS.. MERCHANTS and also public knowledge/utility.. ethereum is meaningless

i can set up an altcoin in 10 seconds with 5trillion coins. sell one coin on a exchange for $1  and bam, $5trillion market CAP
but my alt will have no users, no financial backing, no merchants. no public knowledge.. thus is NOT taking away from the REAL MARKET SHARE

the market cap is taking a price of a SINGLE TRADE and multiplying it
not by the volume processed that day.
not by the volume of users
not by the volume coins spent, moved

but by the empty number of coins created.

as i explained with the scenario of creating an alt in 10 seconds.. anyone can fake a market cap
the market cap is not a market share statistic. its just a speculators empty bubble number to scream about

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July 09, 2017, 06:56:16 PM
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Bingo franky1. Funny that he would try to pin the mempool spam on Ver, obviously it was Core/DCG/Blockstream shills FUDing for Segwit adoption. It didn't work so they switched to the UASF tactic. Peter Todd is working behind the scenes (shaolinfry) as Ethereum takes more and more Bitcoin market share away.

LOL
your wrong about the bold part
the market CAP is a empty bubble number of empty maths and no financial backing. and has nothing to do with REAL MARKET SHARE
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as i explained with the scenario of creating an alt in 10 seconds.. anyone can fake a market cap

Who said anything about market cap? It's a fact that Ethereum has seen a huge increase in transaction volume and fiat exchange rate. Several times in recent history the daily total USD transaction volume for ETH has exceeded BTC's. That's not fake. Don't trust me, check https://etherscan.io/charts

Don't get me wrong, I think ETH is crap. It's just an indicator of market interest and just how unable Bitcoin has been to deliver on it in 2017, mostly due to the scaling deadlock and refusal increase the blocksize.
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July 09, 2017, 07:35:07 PM
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lol

segwit2x = barry silbert

barry silbert = blockstream puppet master. all barry wants is segwit activated ASAP, all spam+propaganda leads back to barry even the tx spam that started when core bips "needed" to be pushed,

check out the mempool spam accelerate in october-november 2016.. oh and a spike around the june '16 period the other core bip needed some attention..

nice try pereira4, but next time you and billy really should stop trying to grasp empty staws from reddit and do some real research





you are right !
see where DGC (Digital Currency Group) is shareholder too. there SO MANY shills and brainwashed here.  the last ones think that they really count.  LOL

few gangs "own" the e-currency called Bitcoin. they manipulate the market, they own the biggest exchangers, the BTC developers(yes, they pay them) , biggest wallets , miners and BTC media.



Bingo franky1. Funny that he would try to pin the mempool spam on Ver, obviously it was Core/DCG/Blockstream shills FUDing for Segwit adoption. It didn't work so they switched to the UASF tactic. Peter Todd is working behind the scenes (shaolinfry) as Ethereum takes more and more Bitcoin market share away.

Greg Maxwell thinks UASF BIP148 is nonsense. Everyone on Core think segwit2x is a scam. You are missing the points here. This is an obvious XT/Classic/Unlimited situation. Another hardfork-excuse to fire Core devs. How can you not see this yet? You don't seem new so you must be a troll or just missing the game theory at play.

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July 09, 2017, 08:56:14 PM
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I am still not able to see how can one pinpoint a spam attack to someone or an entity or even prove successfully that there was a spam attack.

I've asked this many times on the forum and haven't got any answer, and I will ask again, since this thread has everything to do with it: why would people supporting a block size increase spam the network? That's counter productive. These people want bigger blocks because the 1MB ones we have are congested enough. Spamming the network will congest these blocks further. So people wanting a less congestioned Bitcoin are going to spam it? Makes no sense to me.

#2 Block size was never the issue, the real problem was nefarious activity which couldn't be classified as legitimate user behavior.

Block size is and will be an issue (this doesn't mean that SegWit or DDoS is irrelevant)
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