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1- Trusted exchange, Great opportunity for day trading with a lot  of alt coins and large volume.
2- bittrex, a big exchange with a large daily volume where I can trade some coin that are not listed in poloniex and btc-e For usd withdrawal.
3- It is the most important point if you want your future exchange to be a success; Be always close to users, Fast and convincing support.
4- exchange is one time investment if successful so you can keep your company and extend it withe the new exchange.
5- no idea Embarrassed
6- Bad idea, because to withdraw your btc-e money the fees are small but from c-cex the withdrawal made by a third party and the costs will be higher then the 4% of profit between the two exchange, This could be beneficial if the two exchanges have the same withdrawal service or else another alt coin with a margin of -2 / -3% than the first exchange, but in the case presented all the alt coins in c-cex are in + 4 5% compared to other exchange.

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July 07, 2017, 12:06:11 AM
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3. What are the things you think are missing in the current exchanges? At least from your personal view

These exchanges should become more proffessional. For example poloniex has troubles now and you cant reach their support. My etc deposit still not showed up on balance since 3 weeks. Even they are earm and gsin so much öoney from fees, they dont invest to themselves to operate better.

There is one key thing that should be mentioned on the bolded portion above.

I can't speak for poloniex but it is possible those troubles he cited above stem from the exchange being based in the united states and thus being subject to US regulations and laws.

AFAIK many US based exchanges and crypto operations, like coinbase for example, have similar issues with transactions and basic functions due to the IRS and state making a stronger effort to invest themselves into crypto based operations.

That's not a fault of poloniex its the "regulation" taking effect. The same type of transaction freeze happens with paypal and other payment processors to satisfy the "anti terrorism" countermeasures.

Some countries are definitely more crypto friendly than others in terms of regulation/laws.

Upcoming "senate Bill 1241" which some are labeling an "anti bitcoin" piece of legislature is an interesting topic related to this.

Also thx for the tip. If you ever get the impression I might be able to help you with anything, feel free to ask.


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July 07, 2017, 12:29:08 AM
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With regards to 6. arbitrage opportunities shows up every now and then across the exchanges - not just BTC-e and Poloniex, but speed, fees and time lag for transfers, mostly take the wind out of the sail. However with your $200k and team of software engineers you can circumvent the need to always transfer from one exchange to another by splitting your money as Cakir suggested  - cash at exchange with lower rate and BTC at exchange with high rate. Buy say 50 BTC here, sell 50 BTC there, transfer with calm while balance is used to start another leg. Your engineers would have to create or adapt a custom bot for efficiency and to seamlessly follow the markets around the clock.

Going by some of the questions you asked, I think you need to take sometime out to understudy the operations of exchanges, paying special attention to the rise and fall of Mt.Gox and Cryptsy. In between mining and arbitrage trading could be holding sway for you. Mining is still profitable because you must not mine Bitcoin to end up with Bitcoin.

Btw, it matters that Poloniex is an America company, if you site your company in some island, that would be the first red flag up! Best of luck!!

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When looked from outside it looks like exchnages were making good profit and if we have investment we too can create our own exchnage. This has got lots of risk in it, specifically the price drop and increase need to be precise as well there should not be any flaws in the transaction happening during the buying and selling process.

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Dude, Stay away from cex.io.

I've had 9k USD stuck there for the past 30 days with barely any information on where my money is, I requested for a swift document, but they'll charge $25 for that and I'll have to wait another 2-3weeks to get it.

The arbitrage gap is attractive but They're bloody scammers.

Think I'm the only one?. Just read their trustpilot reviews.
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1. I use less polo but more bittrex now, cuz it having some issues so for now i will stay away for some time
2. Trading most of the time, small time investing
3. transaction speed
4. This is more personal opinion if not this the if you can invest in some coin or build mining farm
5. This is more on which coin you think on mining
6. This can be bad idea cuz if you sending money from one to another then it will take days maybe weeks, many thing can happen in that time, but on btc base this is something completely different



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July 10, 2017, 08:58:24 AM
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Hi,

I’ve bought some bitcoins when they were worth $300 but I was not active in this industry and that is why I will need your help.

I have a budget of $200,000 monthly to invest so I thought to myself “let’s open an exchange”. You might think that there are so many exchanges now that the market does not need another one. Maybe you a right. On the other hand that is what I’ve been doing for the last 10 years, creating businesses in fast growing industries where there are already many companies on the market. Currently, I am hiring 70 people, mostly software engineers. As a company we are running an exchange in a smaller industry so we want to move to bitcoins now.

Most of you are much longer in the industry than me so I have a couple questions.

1. Why are people using poloniex? Are most of them traders or miners or margin traders or they invest in new alt coins or …. something else I am missing?
2. If you are using any exchange please tell me which one and why are using it? You are a miner, trader or …. ?
3. What are the things you think are missing in the current exchanges? At least from your personal view
4. Do you think we can use our budget($200K monthly) better than creating an exchange?
5. Is there still good money to be made in mining? Anyone with knowledge looking for some investor?
6. I was thinking about trading my money from Btc-e to Cex.io as the difference of the BTC is around 4% (as of now the prices are 2533 USD (btc-e) and 2662 (CEX.io). I think it is an easy money with every trade as I should earn extra 2%. Am I missing something? To easy to be true.

Anyone want to help us? Do you have any specific knowledge that might be helpful? Maybe you have worked in an exchange, you know margin trading better than others or you use API from exchanges to gain profit? Wanna talk more? Send me your skype login in a private message.

First 10 people with activity above 100 who will answer those questions I am happy to send $50 in BTC as a “thank you” for your time so please add your BTC address


200000$ is a very big price and I'm astonished that you have that kind of amount monthly, you must be very rich and a businessman.
At number one, I'm using bittrex as an exchange that poloniex now.
Secondly, I'm not quite a trader but I'm observing how cryptocurrencies in the trading industry run on fumes and when I see some opportunity, buy a good alternative and invest then wait for the result. Third, security, measuring of credit risks and transparency is missing in the industry nowadays. Invest in some good ICo or go to mining industry I think, there are so much to develop there. Fourth, I still don't know the mining industry. Fifth, I don't trust cex, they have so many issues down there and fees are quite high not mentioning the waiting time.




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Hi,

I’ve bought some bitcoins when they were worth $300 but I was not active in this industry and that is why I will need your help.

I have a budget of $200,000 monthly to invest so I thought to myself “let’s open an exchange”. You might think that there are so many exchanges now that the market does not need another one. Maybe you a right. On the other hand that is what I’ve been doing for the last 10 years, creating businesses in fast growing industries where there are already many companies on the market. Currently, I am hiring 70 people, mostly software engineers. As a company we are running an exchange in a smaller industry so we want to move to bitcoins now.

Most of you are much longer in the industry than me so I have a couple questions.

1. Why are people using poloniex? Are most of them traders or miners or margin traders or they invest in new alt coins or …. something else I am missing?
2. If you are using any exchange please tell me which one and why are using it? You are a miner, trader or …. ?
3. What are the things you think are missing in the current exchanges? At least from your personal view
4. Do you think we can use our budget($200K monthly) better than creating an exchange?
5. Is there still good money to be made in mining? Anyone with knowledge looking for some investor?
6. I was thinking about trading my money from Btc-e to Cex.io as the difference of the BTC is around 4% (as of now the prices are 2533 USD (btc-e) and 2662 (CEX.io). I think it is an easy money with every trade as I should earn extra 2%. Am I missing something? To easy to be true.

Anyone want to help us? Do you have any specific knowledge that might be helpful? Maybe you have worked in an exchange, you know margin trading better than others or you use API from exchanges to gain profit? Wanna talk more? Send me your skype login in a private message.

First 10 people with activity above 100 who will answer those questions I am happy to send $50 in BTC as a “thank you” for your time so please add your BTC address


200000$ is a very big price and I'm astonished that you have that kind of amount monthly, you must be very rich and a businessman.
At number one, I'm using bittrex as an exchange that poloniex now.
Secondly, I'm not quite a trader but I'm observing how cryptocurrencies in the trading industry run on fumes and when I see some opportunity, buy a good alternative and invest then wait for the result. Third, security, measuring of credit risks and transparency is missing in the industry nowadays. Invest in some good ICo or go to mining industry I think, there are so much to develop there. Fourth, I still don't know the mining industry. Fifth, I don't trust cex, they have so many issues down there and fees are quite high not mentioning the waiting time.

You should know 200k$ is not a big sum for exchanger at all,if you ever calculated profit they (poloniex) got every day you will see 200k$ is nothing but a dust.and if you want to open an exchanger you should consider it carefully,visit every exchanger and use it a bit to feel it surely you will understand it.

In my opinion every exchanger have their advantage, for example :

Bittrex : it was a very simple exchanger and easy to use,fast and light

Poloniex : Many people using it because in this exchanger we can use our bitcoin or other altcoin as collateral to get 2,5x Loan and trollbox (removed now),because they have a lot function in their website many people had a problem when they're trading such as lagging and spiking.

So consider it carefully and think it again twice,trice and frice ( lol )

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5. Is there still good money to be made in mining? Anyone with knowledge looking for some investor?

Here's an interesting article which says mining is much more profitable than it used to be due to the latest series of big price movements upward.

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Bitcoin's Price Surge is Making Hobby Mining Profitable Again

Jul 9, 2017 at 12:30 by Bailey Reutzel

Roque Solis never imagined the bitcoin mining equipment he bought in February would have already paid for itself. And on top of that, made him money.

Solis is the president of SoliSYSTEMS Corp, a company that developed an EMV smart card for electronic benefit transfer for the federal assistance program, Women, Infants, and Children (WIC). While attending several conferences last year, Solis was unable to ignore bitcoin. So, he decided to experiment with the technology via mining to get a better handle on whether the technology could be used within his company.

Solis bought a Bitmain Antminer S9 on eBay for $2,400.

As of this weekend, Solis has mined 1.01 BTC, worth a little more than $2,584 in his bitcoin wallet.

Solis said:

"When I bought the miner, the price per bitcoin was around $1,200. I thought I’d break even in one year, but actually it’s been about five months."

These gains, though, are particularly interesting in that, even last year, individual hobby mining wasn't profitable anymore. Individuals with just one or two miners couldn't compete with the companies mining bitcoin using large warehouses full of servers dedicated to the task (and seeing lucrative returns as the price rose).

But that was with the price below $600, which, with electricity costs and mining pool fees, would take a person more than 500 days to break even on their bitcoin miner investment.

With an increased awareness and usage of mining pools, and the price now far higher, hobby miners – as Solis' experience shows – can break even in several months.

According to Solis, the amount of money he’s making per day with the miner jumped from $7 to $16 recently, as the price shot up.

Price matters

And to bitcoin's enthusiasts this is evidence that the increase really does benefit the network more broadly.

According to Sean Walsh, a partner at Redwood City Ventures, a bitcoin and blockchain consulting and investment firm. Walsh said, the rising bitcoin price has done more than reinvigorate investors, it's also led to increased interest in bitcoin mining, a key process that supports the network by securing its ledger.

Walsh told CoinDesk:

"There are a lot of metrics that actually matter, like the number of people that own at least one bitcoin, but nobody cares about that. It's just price. It's the one score that wakes people up, and when The Wall Street Journal and other financial publications write about bitcoin."

And the Google Trends for "bitcoin" and "bitcoin mining" tell a similar story. Many of the peaks in the chart for both terms coincide with spikes in price.

Yet, it's not only the price per bitcoin that's luring in new bitcoin mining hobbyists. According to Walsh, while bitcoin transaction fees were relatively stable for a long time, in the past couple years, those fees have seen an uptick.

"This has to do with the block size debate, because the network is a bit congested, and people are having to pay more to get their transactions confirmed," he said.

Whereas only a few years ago, around 100 bitcoins per day was paid in transaction fees, in the past couple months, transaction fees have equaled around 350 bitcoins a day, Walsh said, pointing to stats on bitcoin data website Blockchain.info.

And with 1,800 bitcoins produced daily, 350 bitcoins is close to 20% of that. This is in stark contrast to a year ago when only 60 bitcoins were paid in transaction fees and 3,600 bitcoins were being produced daily (before the halving), making the percentage paid in fees around 1.6%.

"That's a huge boost," Walsh said.

He continued:

"I don't know that [increasing transaction fees] are affecting people's interest in getting into mining. People may not realize why it's more lucrative to mine bitcoins now, but when they run the numbers, the payback period looks better than it used to."

New blood

But those who have been in the cryptocurrency space for a while know this story, and would likely caution against Solis and others thinking that the upward momentum will continue.

Warning of future corrections, Walsh said:

"It’s very important for people entering bitcoin mining that they really understand how to calculate their revenue and expenses. They need to make sure their cost basis and operating costs are very low."

For example, if new miners overspend on hosting servers, when there's a correction, they're over-leveraged. And that's a cardinal sin in any investment, said Walsh.

Bitcoin was down about 20% over the last couple weeks of June.

Walsh called the downswings just "normal respiration of an asset class," yet others not so versed in investing might be unaware of these fluctuations and get themselves in trouble.

For Solis, though, it's all about learning through experience.

The Antminer S9 is running in SoliSYSTEM’s server room in the company’s office in Allen, Texas. Solis isn't able to identify just how much electricity the miner is using, though, since there’s clusters of servers there already.

"It is noisy, though," Solis said. "Compared to the other servers, it’s very noisy."

And that's because it's a machine with two specialized ASIC boards, crunching numbers with a fan that rotates at 5,400–7,000 revolutions per minute, he said.

Solis isn't only interested in bitcoin. Having been introduced to ethereum's ether token and the network's smart contract architecture, he had one of his employees buy some immediately via an online exchange several weeks ago. And he plans to start mining ether soon.

He's also researching Hyperledger and other private blockchain systems.

All this, so he can better envision the use cases for his company. According to Solis, the company is looking into how blockchain could underpin a mobile, closed-loop electronic benefits transfer system.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoins-price-surge-is-making-hobby-mining-profitable-again/

That's nice to hear. It could contribute towards crypto becoming more decentralized in terms of mining not being completely ruled by large conglomerates who are united.


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July 13, 2017, 08:48:08 PM
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This seems doubtful, a newbie account, asking for advice about how to open an exchange and that has 200000 every month to spare, it is too good to be true and when that happens most likely it is.

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well personally i trade for profit ! buy cheap/sell high.
i use yobit they have a nice user interface and easy to use so everything is clear but the support there is a miss they rarely answer and they take a hell of time too but that's fine for me cause i never had any problem to send a support ticket though
so i think what exchanges really need now is a nice support team who can answer tickets quickly.
i think the world does need another altcoin exchange platform so the competition rise in this area and the exchanges owners will try to provide the best services for the users

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