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July 19, 2017, 06:42:08 PM
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now around 80% are signaling and requirement is also 80 % now if see in the last day if the % of signaling is decreases towards bip 91 i think this things are going to manipulate by whales

Dropped to 77.7% now, but I think BitFury are still to come in, which would put it back towards 80%.
Still a while to go, though. This wasn't supposed to start until 21st, was it? So we're still early on.
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July 19, 2017, 07:31:21 PM
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Coinbase announced that they will not support the "Bitcoin Cash" (BCC) splitcoin, which means that if you have any BTC in Coinbase, Coinbase will destroy or take for themselves the BCC that you should have been able to claim. I don't particularly blame them for this, since BCC is garbage, it will probably have very little value, and it'd be difficult to add support for another currency. But it clearly demonstrates why we've been recommending that people remove all BTC from custodial wallets no matter how much they assure you that they're safe.

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July 19, 2017, 10:10:47 PM
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When will you people stop posting lies and being information terrorists, frightening the masses?

There will only be one bitcoin.
Forks are for eating. Not for scaring people.

If someone makes a new digital currency, nobody gives a flying fuck.
Bitpay, coin desk, coinbase, purse, and major players like overstock who accept bitcoin are NOT going to magically have the ability or care about some new fake ass currency by Kanye West, or whatever jerk thinks they can compete with Bitcoin.


Your bitcoin is safe, your bitcoin will always be bitcoin even if someone invents a new crypto currency based off the bitcoin blockchain.
You're bitcoin is not stolen.  lol  How dumb are people?

In fact everyone will suddenly have double the coin!
Whatever amount of BTC you have, you will also have of a new coin!  Hopefully it is worth more than nothing, so you profit.
But Bitcoin is still valued as bitcoin, and bitcoin is the only widely accepted, established digital currency you can shop on Amazon, and even buy a lamborghini.

So stop scaring people.
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July 20, 2017, 12:30:39 AM
Last edit: July 20, 2017, 01:03:19 AM by cybersofts
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I am terribly confused about all this. If Bitcoin splits in to three different currencies by August, and if I am keeping my coins in my Blockchain.info wallet, then can anyone tell me what I need to do in order to claim all three coins? How can I get the private key from the (old) Blockchain.info wallet?

I wonder who raised this idea of SegWit2x and chain split. People don't actually need that.

What is the actual benefit of it to the masses, anyway Huh
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July 20, 2017, 01:04:37 AM
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When will you people stop posting lies and being information terrorists, frightening the masses?

There will only be one bitcoin.
Forks are for eating. Not for scaring people.

If someone makes a new digital currency, nobody gives a flying fuck.
Bitpay, coin desk, coinbase, purse, and major players like overstock who accept bitcoin are NOT going to magically have the ability or care about some new fake ass currency by Kanye West, or whatever jerk thinks they can compete with Bitcoin.


Your bitcoin is safe, your bitcoin will always be bitcoin even if someone invents a new crypto currency based off the bitcoin blockchain.
You're bitcoin is not stolen.  lol  How dumb are people?

In fact everyone will suddenly have double the coin!
Whatever amount of BTC you have, you will also have of a new coin!  Hopefully it is worth more than nothing, so you profit.
But Bitcoin is still valued as bitcoin, and bitcoin is the only widely accepted, established digital currency you can shop on Amazon, and even buy a lamborghini.

So stop scaring people.
One of the posts that makes sense around here. The rest are just scary Grin
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July 20, 2017, 03:43:11 AM
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Guys, and keep the coins on the site: blockchain.info is it safe?

I do not understand where to download the other wallets and how to transfer the coins ((

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July 20, 2017, 03:54:50 AM
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When will you people stop posting lies and being information terrorists, frightening the masses?

There will only be one bitcoin.
Forks are for eating. Not for scaring people.

If someone makes a new digital currency, nobody gives a flying fuck.
Bitpay, coin desk, coinbase, purse, and major players like overstock who accept bitcoin are NOT going to magically have the ability or care about some new fake ass currency by Kanye West, or whatever jerk thinks they can compete with Bitcoin.


Your bitcoin is safe, your bitcoin will always be bitcoin even if someone invents a new crypto currency based off the bitcoin blockchain.
You're bitcoin is not stolen.  lol  How dumb are people?

In fact everyone will suddenly have double the coin!
Whatever amount of BTC you have, you will also have of a new coin!  Hopefully it is worth more than nothing, so you profit.
But Bitcoin is still valued as bitcoin, and bitcoin is the only widely accepted, established digital currency you can shop on Amazon, and even buy a lamborghini.

So stop scaring people.
One of the posts that makes sense around here. The rest are just scary Grin
Totally agree with your opinion, a lot of confusing information that blows about HF
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July 20, 2017, 03:58:48 AM
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This BitcoinABC is an altcoin of ViaBTC mining pool btw.
A smarter move on their side would be to start with a fresh blockchain as all alts do. By keeping the old chain they loose part of the exchange income of transferring BTC to their alt from supporters (if any) and will have faster transactions processing, because of smaller database, but that's only initially, as their database will grow faster (if used) and will became slow ... they could at least delay that.
By keeping the old blockchain they create artificial deflation from the unused old amounts, which they can do by simply starting with 25 instead of 50 coins. Premining from diff 1 up their available hashrate will create enough coins for their users to exchange BTC

think about this for a second: what do most altcoins use to advertise themselves?

most of them that have nothing to offer, associate themselves with bitcoin one way or another. they usually go for the old way of saying "blankCoin is fixing bitcoin's blank issues". then they pump and dump the shit out of it and eventually death.
ethereum is the most famous example. they went the "market cap" route. almost in 90% of their advertisements you see them saying "eth will overtake bitcoin in market cap". and to do that they created 90mil+ coins and premined 70million of it.

all you said is true and the correct way of doing things, but the reason i explained is the motivation for gaining any attention. that is only in case they go through with it.

if i had to guess, i say the real motivation is creating disruption, not "improving" anything.

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July 20, 2017, 05:56:12 AM
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If coins are stored on the exchange, they can also disappear?

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July 20, 2017, 07:22:30 AM
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If coins are stored on the exchange, they can also disappear?

i dont think so.
the fact yes, some exchange stop service temporary at 1 august for trading btc.
but because of improvement it self, how chain works that to be implemented.
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July 20, 2017, 07:28:08 AM
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If coins are stored on the exchange, they can also disappear?
Coins will not disappear. However the exchange may decide to use a chain which you do not want to use, and thus prevent you from using coins that you do want to use.

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July 20, 2017, 07:44:54 AM
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If coins are stored on the exchange, they can also disappear?


If you keep your coins on platform, it depends on how does the exchange do. Because exchange is a big wallet, if exchange follow the BIP 48, your coins are safe.
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July 20, 2017, 08:18:31 AM
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Does it matter which wallet do I use?
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July 20, 2017, 08:36:35 AM
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Does it matter which wallet do I use?


Why make things complicated for you? theymos made a list and It's posted on the OP.

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July 20, 2017, 09:07:02 AM
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The article answered my questions. Good thing i found it.
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July 20, 2017, 10:22:26 AM
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https://coin.dance/blocks
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BIP 91 is currently projected to lock in during this period.
Let's hope the message will stay for the remaining 101 blocks

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July 20, 2017, 12:47:13 PM
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Guys, and keep the coins on the site: blockchain.info is it safe?

I do not understand where to download the other wallets and how to transfer the coins ((


I use Electrum, it is one of the safest wallets. You can download it here:

https://electrum.org/#download

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July 20, 2017, 12:47:52 PM
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There will be no fork ?
Price is rising like anything
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July 20, 2017, 12:54:37 PM
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There will be no fork ?
Price is rising like anything

will be a Fork, but no Split - no reasons to worry (almost  Wink
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July 20, 2017, 12:56:09 PM
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There will be no fork ?
Price is rising like anything

will be a Fork, but no Split - no reasons to worry (almost  Wink

mostly all will be happy but i am little bit unhappy because i sold 20 btc at 1910 and now price is rising too much i am in point of nowhere what to do
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