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December 15, 2017, 09:25:50 PM
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I received a PM asking about my Bittrex-status:
Bittrex has lowered thousands of withdrawal limits to 0BTC, including my account. Many people on Bitcointalk complain about this. I still have 8 months to see how this develops, and still have high hopes of regaining full access, but Bittrex' behaviour is worrying.
I've sent Bittrex an ID-scan and an angry looking selfie (I hate them for that requirement!), and my account is verified again.
These tricks moved them down on my trust-list though. That kinda makes me want to withdraw all altcoins into my own wallets, but it will take a few percent on fees, and it will be a lot of work setting up the right wallets.
Any thoughs on this? I think I'll leave it for now, but if there is going to be a next version of this experiment, I want to set this part up different from the start.

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January 02, 2018, 10:38:46 PM
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I received a PM asking about my Bittrex-status:
Bittrex has lowered thousands of withdrawal limits to 0BTC, including my account. Many people on Bitcointalk complain about this. I still have 8 months to see how this develops, and still have high hopes of regaining full access, but Bittrex' behaviour is worrying.
I've sent Bittrex an ID-scan and an angry looking selfie (I hate them for that requirement!), and my account is verified again.
These tricks moved them down on my trust-list though. That kinda makes me want to withdraw all altcoins into my own wallets, but it will take a few percent on fees, and it will be a lot of work setting up the right wallets.
Any thoughs on this? I think I'll leave it for now, but if there is going to be a next version of this experiment, I want to set this part up different from the start.

I wouldn't worry about it, Loyce. I have had the same (temporary) issues across several exchanges, but these seem to go away very quickly if you always go for full enhanced verified status (or whatever they're called on whichever platform). I travel a lot and don't always reside in the same place but find that using my permanent address, with a regular bill and a very old verified bank account works.

My trust in any of these exchanges can't be any lower, but since I still use them as well (generally the only place I can buy alts easily)... the devil you got to live with I guess.

I probably won't be too mad if worst-case scenario happened (you lose access to your Bittrex), but maybe just confirm with the others.

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January 03, 2018, 07:11:22 PM
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Stumbled upon this thread while looking for ways to invest in alts. Intrigued and subscribed.

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January 04, 2018, 09:23:16 AM
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Altcoins made an amazing recovery in the past month. This little altcoin experiment was already in profit in dollars, it's now also in profit in Bitcoin!

January 4, 2018. Results after 3 months, with 7 months to go:

||Altcoin|Start|Month 1|Month 2|Month 3|Month 4|Month 5|Month 6|Month 7|Month 8|Month 9|End|
|1. |0.22031 GBYTE|0.01BTC|0.00562569BTC|0.00544395BTC|0.01156026BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|2. |210.53186999 XRP|0.01BTC|0.00596016BTC|0.00455801BTC|0.04506645BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|3. |0.14729866 ETH|0.01BTC|0.00612011BTC|0.00599948BTC|0.00929455BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|4. |34.51676529 PPC|0.01BTC|0.00586785BTC|0.01044822BTC|0.01254132BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|5. |8.58611584 WAVES|0.01BTC|0.00429168BTC|0.00479646BTC|0.00711789BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|6. |1.24696229 NEO|0.01BTC|0.00463140BTC|0.00435177BTC|0.00853594BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|7. |118.6934793 CVC|0.01BTC|0.00563538BTC|0.00369493BTC|0.01046046BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|8. |81.32235448 WINGS|0.01BTC|0.00432960BTC|0.00441092BTC|0.00705390BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|9. |0.47118564 XMR|0.01BTC|0.00563538BTC|0.00817938BTC|0.01185927BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|10. |243.13910553 ARDR|0.01BTC|0.00682978BTC|0.01142997BTC|0.02853967BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
||Total in Bitcoin|0.10BTC|0.05492703BTC|0.06331309BTC|0.15202971BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
||Total in dollar|$433.60|$396.66|$714.94|$2,203.95BTC|**4**|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|


Archived just in case it's needed later.

0.04228 GBB (GigaBlackbytes) from the last Byteball airdrop is not included in the table yet (the value is low).

I'm glad my pick (Byteball GBYTE) is in profit again, but in retrospect (after 3 months) I should have picked my other favourite altcoin: On October 4, 1 XLM (Stellar Lumens) was worth about 0.00000290BTC. 0.01BTC would have bought 3448 XLM. One XLM is now worth 0.00006135BTC, which means this would now have been worth 0.2115BTC.

The big winner in the past month is XRP, which went up about 10-fold and is now the best performing altcoin in this experiment. It has reached more than half of Bitcoin's market cap. In general, I assume altcoins pump&dump against Bitcoin, which means most money flows in and out of Bitcoin, as Bitcoin moves in the other direction away from the pumped coin. If my theory is correct, I don't think XRP can go up much more: if it would be much bigger than Bitcoin, there isn't much money left to pump into the coin.
I'm very curious to see if XRP can keep it's value in the coming months. The All-time graph shows a typical pump&dump pattern.



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January 07, 2018, 06:11:04 PM
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Great update and very nice to see that we're finally in Bitcoin profit - I know we shouldn't always see it like this but then we all did invest our precious BTC, didn't we? A 50% profit is very nice when we're only a quarter way through this experiment.

Was quite surprised that my selection - Peercoin is at 25% after three months, I hadn't expected it to perform better against the likes of Waves, for example, but there you go with crypto and alts. Kudos to LightZ for picking Ripple, too bad our Litecoin pick dropped out!

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January 19, 2018, 02:34:47 PM
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Love seeing this make some profits! I might just donate my proceeds to a charity when this finishes up.

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January 19, 2018, 08:46:42 PM
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This is cool to watch.  Somebody needs to make the data into a chart.

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This is cool to watch.  Somebody needs to make the data into a chart.
Sure thing! I've set up a chart here. It shows the BTC value of an individual share out of 10, broken down by all 10 coins. Just multiply by 10 for the total fund. The changes LoyceV described in the GBYTE balance over time are accounted for in this chart.
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January 26, 2018, 09:47:25 AM
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Sure thing! I've set up a chart here.
Nicely done!
One question though: it shows a lower total than my table on January 4. I took the values the moment I made the table, do you use an average for the day or the lowest of the day?

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January 26, 2018, 09:53:51 AM
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Sure thing! I've set up a chart here.
Nicely done!
One question though: it shows a lower total than my table on January 4. I took the values the moment I made the table, do you use an average for the day or the lowest of the day?
Thank you! I used the daily "closing price" scraped from coinmarketcap's historical data tables. On a tumultuous day like January 4, a difference of a few hours is probably pretty significant.
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January 27, 2018, 04:58:00 AM
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This is a great project!  I'm impressed by the concept and the recent results.  I'll be checking in on your progress over time to see how things go.  Let me know if you plan another round, and best of luck with these 10 months!

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January 28, 2018, 04:51:55 AM
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I got inspired by this and started something similar for myself

Put in 0.01 BTC each in different altcoins and will wait for around 6 months
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February 04, 2018, 09:23:34 AM
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We're still in profit after a bloody month for crypto, but less than last month.

February 4, 2018. Results after 4 months, with 6 months to go:

||Altcoin|Start|Month 1|Month 2|Month 3|Month 4|Month 5|Month 6|Month 7|Month 8|Month 9|End|
|1. |0.22031 GBYTE|0.01BTC|0.00562569BTC|0.00544395BTC|0.01156026BTC|0.01533852BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|2. |210.53186999 XRP|0.01BTC|0.00596016BTC|0.00455801BTC|0.04506645BTC|0.02157952BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|3. |0.14729866 ETH|0.01BTC|0.00612011BTC|0.00599948BTC|0.00929455BTC|0.01510767BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|4. |34.51676529 PPC|0.01BTC|0.00586785BTC|0.01044822BTC|0.01254132BTC|0.01409665BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|5. |8.58611584 WAVES|0.01BTC|0.00429168BTC|0.00479646BTC|0.00711789BTC|0.00620364BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|6. |1.24696229 NEO|0.01BTC|0.00463140BTC|0.00435177BTC|0.00853594BTC|0.01650533BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|7. |118.6934793 CVC|0.01BTC|0.00563538BTC|0.00369493BTC|0.01046046BTC|0.00593467BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|8. |81.32235448 WINGS|0.01BTC|0.00432960BTC|0.00441092BTC|0.00705390BTC|0.00706366BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|9. |0.47118564 XMR|0.01BTC|0.00563538BTC|0.00817938BTC|0.01185927BTC|0.01281627BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|10. |243.13910553 ARDR|0.01BTC|0.00682978BTC|0.01142997BTC|0.02853967BTC|0.01385650BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
||Total in Bitcoin|0.10BTC|0.05492703BTC|0.06331309BTC|0.15202971BTC|0.12850243BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
||Total in dollar|$433.60|$396.66|$714.94|$2,203.95BTC|$1,157.57BTC|**5**|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|


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0.04228 GBB (GigaBlackbytes) from the last Byteball airdrop is not included in the table yet (the value is low).

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February 22, 2018, 11:06:13 AM
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Hi Loyce, is there a wait list?  Are you going to start a second group of ten buyers?  If so I'd like to join and suggest SexCoin Wink

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Hi Loyce, is there a wait list?
No.

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I was just thinking about this the other day. My current plan is to start "part 2" shortly before this one ends. That way, participants can join already, and only pay after "part 1" is paid back.
I wouldn't mind starting part 2 already as it only takes little time once a month, but:
1. I don't want to hold more money long-term than my reputation here justifies
2. I don't want to keep more on exchanges than I have already.

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Can't believe I missed this when it was first offered! Undecided

Seems like a fun way to "gamble" Tongue  I'm definitely interested in participating if you go ahead with Part #2 Wink

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March 02, 2018, 05:00:45 PM
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I think you should start another one running concurrently, possibly a shorter time frame though with a new spin on it;

6 month, 6 Person, 6 High Potential, High Risk Altcoin investment? I'd definitely go for it.


           
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March 02, 2018, 07:12:19 PM
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I checked all posts, and these people have shown interest:

Great idea. Wish I had joined.
Stumbled upon this thread while looking for ways to invest in alts. Intrigued and subscribed.
Hi Loyce, is there a wait list?  Are you going to start a second group of ten buyers?  If so I'd like to join and suggest SexCoin Wink
Can't believe I missed this when it was first offered! Undecided

Seems like a fun way to "gamble" Tongue  I'm definitely interested in participating if you go ahead with Part #2 Wink
I think you should start another one running concurrently, possibly a shorter time frame though with a new spin on it;

6 month, 6 Person, 6 High Potential, High Risk Altcoin investment? I'd definitely go for it.

It's not an official waiting list, but I'll contact everybody on this list if I start Experiment 2.0.

@Parodium: I'm not following altcoins much. Can you give some examples of what you consider "high potential, high risk"?
Most altcoins shoot up once in a while, and drop again. That only gives a small time frame to sell. I could for example sell x% when a coin goes up y% (x and y to be determined), but that complicates everything too.

Update April 12 2018:

I wish I would have got in - 0.01 is pocket beans and would be fun to watch a pool.
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I like this idea. I would even be interested in upping the ante.. maybe 0.02-0.05.
I'd definitely join a second round, just enjoying the experiment.

Update April 13 2018 (by PM):
I am also interested for the second version of "LoyceV's Legendary 10 Month 10 Person 10 Altcoin Investment Experiment".

Update April 17 2018:
Would you be able to add me to your waiting list too for the next round.  Thanks in advance!

Update April 21, 2018:
I'd like to participate in the next round as well.

Update May 4, 2018:
Hey Loyce, I'd also like to join your waitlist!

Update June 4, 2018:
I am in for round 2 if/when that happens.

I would also like to join the 2nd round if there's open spots, if not then for the 3rd round Wink Wink

Update July 4, 2018:
I want a spot in if possible please

If you do run round 2 I'd be interested in a spot.

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March 04, 2018, 09:53:11 AM
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Monero is the only green altcoin this month, all others dropped. That puts us at a small loss in Bitcoin half way through this experiment. Measured in dollars, we're still in profit.

March 4, 2018. Results after 5 months, with 5 months to go:

||Altcoin|Start|Month 1|Month 2|Month 3|Month 4|Month 5|Month 6|Month 7|Month 8|Month 9|End|
|1. |0.22031 GBYTE|0.01BTC|0.00562569BTC|0.00544395BTC|0.01156026BTC|0.01533852BTC|0.00849585BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|2. |210.53186999 XRP|0.01BTC|0.00596016BTC|0.00455801BTC|0.04506645BTC|0.02157952BTC|0.01688676BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|3. |0.14729866 ETH|0.01BTC|0.00612011BTC|0.00599948BTC|0.00929455BTC|0.01510767BTC|0.01113578BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|4. |34.51676529 PPC|0.01BTC|0.00586785BTC|0.01044822BTC|0.01254132BTC|0.01409665BTC|0.00936820BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|5. |8.58611584 WAVES|0.01BTC|0.00429168BTC|0.00479646BTC|0.00711789BTC|0.00620364BTC|0.00515098BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|6. |1.24696229 NEO|0.01BTC|0.00463140BTC|0.00435177BTC|0.00853594BTC|0.01650533BTC|0.01344230BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|7. |118.6934793 CVC|0.01BTC|0.00563538BTC|0.00369493BTC|0.01046046BTC|0.00593467BTC|0.00370442BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|8. |81.32235448 WINGS|0.01BTC|0.00432960BTC|0.00441092BTC|0.00705390BTC|0.00706366BTC|0.00555594BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|9. |0.47118564 XMR|0.01BTC|0.00563538BTC|0.00817938BTC|0.01185927BTC|0.01281627BTC|0.01441663BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|10. |243.13910553 ARDR|0.01BTC|0.00682978BTC|0.01142997BTC|0.02853967BTC|0.01385650BTC|0.00857065BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
||Total in Bitcoin|0.10BTC|0.05492703BTC|0.06331309BTC|0.15202971BTC|0.12850243BTC|0.09672751BTC|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
||Total in dollar|$433.60|$396.66|$714.94|$2,203.95|$1,157.57|$1088.10|**6**|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|


Archived just in case it's needed later.

0.04228 GBB (GigaBlackbytes) from the last Byteball airdrop is not included in the table yet (the current value $0.48).

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April 04, 2018, 05:36:47 PM
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By now I'm afraid to look at the current prices Cry

Ardor is the only green altcoin this month, all others dropped. That puts us at a loss in Bitcoin 60% 21% through this experiment. Measured in dollars, we're at a small profit.

April 4, 2018. Results after 6 months, with 4 months to go:

||Altcoin|Start|Month 1|Month 2|Month 3|Month 4|Month 5|Month 6|Month 7|Month 8|Month 9|End|
|1. |0.22031 GBYTE|0.01BTC|0.00562569BTC|0.00544395BTC|0.01156026BTC|0.01533852BTC|0.00849585BTC|0.00567298BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|2. |210.53186999 XRP|0.01BTC|0.00596016BTC|0.00455801BTC|0.04506645BTC|0.02157952BTC|0.01688676BTC|0.01512882BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|3. |0.14729866 ETH|0.01BTC|0.00612011BTC|0.00599948BTC|0.00929455BTC|0.01510767BTC|0.01113578BTC|0.00813656BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|4. |34.51676529 PPC|0.01BTC|0.00586785BTC|0.01044822BTC|0.01254132BTC|0.01409665BTC|0.00936820BTC|0.00769724BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|5. |8.58611584 WAVES|0.01BTC|0.00429168BTC|0.00479646BTC|0.00711789BTC|0.00620364BTC|0.00515098BTC|0.00450788BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|6. |1.24696229 NEO|0.01BTC|0.00463140BTC|0.00435177BTC|0.00853594BTC|0.01650533BTC|0.01344230BTC|0.00860005BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|7. |118.6934793 CVC|0.01BTC|0.00563538BTC|0.00369493BTC|0.01046046BTC|0.00593467BTC|0.00370442BTC|0.00355606BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|8. |81.32235448 WINGS|0.01BTC|0.00432960BTC|0.00441092BTC|0.00705390BTC|0.00706366BTC|0.00555594BTC|0.00436620BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|9. |0.47118564 XMR|0.01BTC|0.00563538BTC|0.00817938BTC|0.01185927BTC|0.01281627BTC|0.01441663BTC|0.01174077BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
|10. |243.13910553 ARDR|0.01BTC|0.00682978BTC|0.01142997BTC|0.02853967BTC|0.01385650BTC|0.00857065BTC|0.00996627BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
||Total in Bitcoin|0.10BTC|0.05492703BTC|0.06331309BTC|0.15202971BTC|0.12850243BTC|0.09672751BTC|0.07937283BTC|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|
||Total in dollar|$433.60|$396.66|$714.94|$2,203.95|$1,157.57|$1088.10|$544,44|**7**|**8**|**9**|**10**|


Archived just in case it's needed later.

0.04228 GBB (GigaBlackbytes) from the last Byteball airdrop is not included in the table yet (the current value $0.26).

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