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August 01, 2017, 02:38:30 PM
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After continous bumping, i hope you realize that no one is going to send you their ID.
So the only way of getting deals, is to just remove that requirement.
You said that "you do not want to be connected" into anything "criminal" but, their ID will not help you at all.
How do the customers know if the money is "criminal" that you are sending them, because i think there is a bigger unethical thing happening behind those curtains rather than bitcoin.
Also, you still can get charged for money laundering as far as i know, and the ID is not going to help you with that. You just need to provide your income to the tax agency and that is.

I hope you do finally realize this, and stop trying to reach the impossible.
he want to look a naive guy asking how localbitcoin escrow work maybe he have some hidden things
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August 01, 2017, 08:52:26 PM
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bump

After continous bumping, i hope you realize that no one is going to send you their ID.
So the only way of getting deals, is to just remove that requirement.
You said that "you do not want to be connected" into anything "criminal" but, their ID will not help you at all.
How do the customers know if the money is "criminal" that you are sending them, because i think there is a bigger unethical thing happening behind those curtains rather than bitcoin.
Also, you still can get charged for money laundering as far as i know, and the ID is not going to help you with that. You just need to provide your income to the tax agency and that is.

I hope you do finally realize this, and stop trying to reach the impossible.
I didn't know that bitcoin exchange is considered an income, how will tax agency tax my bitcoin wallet? And what currency will I use to pay those taxes? I think you are missing one of the points of using bitcoin. As far as id goes, I can also provide my id if the other party requires. I just want to send the money to the owner of the account and not some third party. And how can you launder clean money?
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August 01, 2017, 08:55:26 PM
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bump

After continous bumping, i hope you realize that no one is going to send you their ID.
So the only way of getting deals, is to just remove that requirement.
You said that "you do not want to be connected" into anything "criminal" but, their ID will not help you at all.
How do the customers know if the money is "criminal" that you are sending them, because i think there is a bigger unethical thing happening behind those curtains rather than bitcoin.
Also, you still can get charged for money laundering as far as i know, and the ID is not going to help you with that. You just need to provide your income to the tax agency and that is.

I hope you do finally realize this, and stop trying to reach the impossible.
he want to look a naive guy asking how localbitcoin escrow work maybe he have some hidden things
do you know how localbitcoins escrow works outside of localbitcoins? Because I don't and I keep reading here about people exchanging BTC in this forum and using lbc escrow.
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August 01, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
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I didn't know that bitcoin exchange is considered an income, how will tax agency tax my bitcoin wallet? And what currency will I use to pay those taxes? I think you are missing one of the points of using bitcoin. As far as id goes, I can also provide my id if the other party requires. I just want to send the money to the owner of the account and not some third party. And how can you launder clean money

It depends on the country alot, at least on the western countries if you report a thing like that with valid reason, it is a income that still needs to be reported to the tax agency. I told you already the reasons that you asking for ID is more suspicious than the guys sending you money.

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August 02, 2017, 04:19:38 AM
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As a reminder and mayber for later quotes! ASKING FOR ANOTHER PERSON'S ID IT IS A CRIME!

If you don't have legal authorisation, asking for sharing the ID it is a crime. Wink


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August 02, 2017, 05:09:35 AM
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As a reminder and mayber for later quotes! ASKING FOR ANOTHER PERSON'S ID IT IS A CRIME!

If you don't have legal authorisation, asking for sharing the ID it is a crime. Wink
I think retaining someone's id is a crime, not requesting a copy.
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August 02, 2017, 06:07:45 AM
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As a reminder and mayber for later quotes! ASKING FOR ANOTHER PERSON'S ID IT IS A CRIME!

If you don't have legal authorisation, asking for sharing the ID it is a crime. Wink
I think retaining someone's id is a crime, not requesting a copy.

No, actually just requesting. There is no legal purpose for asking for an ID. Maybe you want to prove is the owner of the account  but still useless.

I recomend stop asking for things that are over your level of understanding. You might have some problems if you will piss off the wrong guy


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August 02, 2017, 10:38:20 AM
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I recomend stop asking for things that are over your level of understanding. You might have some problems if you will piss off the wrong guy
thanks for the advice, I hope what you wrote above was not a threat. If you want to trade you know my terms.
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August 03, 2017, 06:21:09 PM
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you can buy BTC with SEPA WIRE TRANSFER on Lakebtc.com.
All users on lakebanker on Lakebtc.com are verified user.
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August 03, 2017, 06:39:52 PM
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you can buy BTC with SEPA WIRE TRANSFER on Lakebtc.com.
All users on lakebanker on Lakebtc.com are verified user.
what is their commission?
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August 03, 2017, 09:23:02 PM
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you can buy BTC with SEPA WIRE TRANSFER on Lakebtc.com.
All users on lakebanker on Lakebtc.com are verified user.
what is their commission?

For SEPA wire transfer the is very low .
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August 03, 2017, 09:29:21 PM
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For SEPA wire transfer the is very low .
do they have a commission for withdrawing the BTC i buy there?
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August 03, 2017, 09:34:31 PM
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For SEPA wire transfer the is very low .
do they have a commission for withdrawing the BTC i buy there?

Yes , except you find someone who wants to deposit and you want to withdraw then s/he request for deposit and you accept !
It is like exactly escrow system !
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August 03, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
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For SEPA wire transfer the is very low .
do they have a commission for withdrawing the BTC i buy there?

I recommend just avoiding, i know you are desperate for exchange but: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063588.0
I just wanted to show you the thread, instead of just ignoring.
You can wait a little longer in case someone wants to exchange, or use localbitcoins or paxful and such.
Stay safe.

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August 04, 2017, 08:18:16 AM
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I recommend just avoiding, i know you are desperate for exchange but: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063588.0
I just wanted to show you the thread, instead of just ignoring.
You can wait a little longer in case someone wants to exchange, or use localbitcoins or paxful and such.
Stay safe.
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oh, i wasn't going to send him money, i was just trying to get more information. i'm not desperate for exchange.
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April 25, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
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dear all,
i'm a newbie
i want to buy 200 EUR worth of BTC at PREEV -1%
i can pay in your bank account
i will require proof of identity of the owner of the bank account
i'm not familiar with ESCROW but people on this forum say it's a must, so let's use it, seller pays the fees regarding this procedure (i see on this forum that people trust other people, if the seller is trustworthy then i guess we don't need to use ESCROW)
pm for details or feel free to give here good advice



What an idiot. It's YOU who is buying BTC. It's YOU paying from your bank account. It's therefore YOU who must provide proof of identity and go through the rigors and hassles of proving bank account ownership and not the seller!

This is why criminal psychology is an ever evolving field. All these criminals thinking of ways to psychologically manipulate transactions. This is a perfect example. By writing what you wrote above, you are trying to paint a picture of yourself as someone who is vulnerable and therefore deserves all this information. This is what I see however:

1. You want people to send you sensitive information about bank account ownership. It's highly likely that this is not about buying 0.1 BTC. You are paying from a bank account which you might have hacked or stolen and yet you ask the coin seller to provide proof of ownership of his account? Why? That's the million dollar question.

2. Escrow is a must, yes, but it seems you are saying this to prevent scam busters here identifying your true intentions.



     

                   ==>NOTE : this is an old thread but, i would like to post my comment <==



@warningsigns, you right. Sometime's uncivilized hacker's usually mask themselve by request of Proof of doc's from innocent seller's.

Ok, why can't he/she goes to localbitcoins where he has the possibility of dealing ONLY with user's who has verified account. He came here pretending to be new or ignorant of fraudulent activities associated with request of such document's.

FYI  - For safety purpose - pls never give personal information(s) name,date,ID card no...or upload doc's to an individual. You can create on profile in order to go through the verification process on third parties website like coinbase/localbitcoins ..ecc



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