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Author Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3  (Read 177291 times)
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August 18, 2017, 02:08:55 AM
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I think I finally know why Bitmain is releasing so many. They want to stomp on Dash price to make it look poor relative to Bitcoin. Doing so would bring more people to Bitcoin, thus boosting Bitmains own bitcoin stash.  Jihan must have thought this through.

Why would the number of sold miners affect Dash price?
More miners -> more coins being produced and sold -> lower Dash price.

 More miners has ZERO effect on how many coins are produced.
 More miners = more DIFFICULTY, not more coins.



Read my newer comment. It will make more sense near the end. The bad scenario would be like the first introduction of scrypt asics where the difficulty sky rocketed and the first people to get their asics would sell because they were afraid of more other miners competing. I personally am going to hold most coins I make because I have made a lot just trading. This is really to help me stop selling so quickly  Grin.

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August 18, 2017, 03:30:02 AM
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It has to be some sort of record that D3s are available after 18 hours still available and on sale... reminds me of when L3+ came out intially... they were available for 2 days.

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August 18, 2017, 04:45:40 AM
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Hi, I think that they want also cut off the market all the people that has bought the miner and resell the account or buy to resell their product making a lot of profit, and in the firsts batchs there was al lot people that has do that.
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August 18, 2017, 05:08:52 AM
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there is still 12949 units remaining units in last batch....  Huh

Hi, where this number come from?

Simply you can chcek the web side code on product page and search for "remain"
Now I can see this values:

<input type="hidden" id="productRemainCount" value="11746" />

they have more to sell:

<input type="hidden" id="productRemainCount" value="18257" />

Probably a lot of expired orders or unpaid orders. Good catch on the view source.

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August 18, 2017, 05:35:56 AM
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This could send the price of Dash up actually, Price is already at $240, would not be surprized if it reaches $400 plus by the end of the year. You have to remember the price could rise when doing your calculations guys, this will intern mean quicker ROI. I strongly believe this will happen...

While it's technically true that one will "ROI" in terms of $USD faster if the price increases, I respectfully disagree that one should take price fluctuations of the underlying cryptocurrency into account when forecasting ROI. Mining ultimately boils down to this question: Will one end up with more coins by mining than one could have purchased for the same amount of money? If the answer is no, then it would make a lot more sense to simply purchase the coins and hold them. It is my opinion that the D3 (in all released batches) will mine a greater number of Dash coins (after electricity expenses) than could have been bought for the same amount and therefore I have purchased the miner.

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August 18, 2017, 05:44:06 AM
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I think I finally know why Bitmain is releasing so many. They want to stomp on Dash price to make it look poor relative to Bitcoin. Doing so would bring more people to Bitcoin, thus boosting Bitmains own bitcoin stash.  Jihan must have thought this through.

No you are wrong.  The reason why they are releasing so many is because I bitched and complained to BITMAIN that assclowns that purchase 100's of these for the purpose of reselling are the plague of the world.  Also because a lot of con shops opened up pretending to be BITMAIN and selling cards on their website, taking money and not sending cards ( like what happened to me ) will be eliminated.

I think its great!!  All you idiots who bought 100's with the idea of reselling them are going to get screwed, hahahaha.
You all deserve it!
I hope you all go bankrupt.
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August 18, 2017, 06:00:33 AM
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And...Bitmain STILL has D3's for sale.....

(their sinister plan worked...they managed to make D3's in stock and into the snail equivalent of S9's) (Bitmain: we do evil in Slo-Mo Eventually)

https://shop.bitmain.com/main.htm?lang=en

I want to buy (soooo  pretty) at $1,450 usd ..BUT and I mean a BIG BUT .....

With X11 difficulty rise....its hard to buy a rubber dingy for the kiddy pool.....when the elephant (x11 difficulty) is gonna 'cannon ball' into it.

Gonna be quite wierd, imho ..when that x11 difficulty slams into the ASIC X11 shoreline....let me tell ya




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August 18, 2017, 06:12:49 AM
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Hi, also the APW3++ Power supply "productRemainCount" value="19036" is near the same value of D3.
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August 18, 2017, 06:19:57 AM
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I think I finally know why Bitmain is releasing so many. They want to stomp on Dash price to make it look poor relative to Bitcoin. Doing so would bring more people to Bitcoin, thus boosting Bitmains own bitcoin stash.  Jihan must have thought this through.

No you are wrong.  The reason why they are releasing so many is because I bitched and complained to BITMAIN that assclowns that purchase 100's of these for the purpose of reselling are the plague of the world.  Also because a lot of con shops opened up pretending to be BITMAIN and selling cards on their website, taking money and not sending cards ( like what happened to me ) will be eliminated.

I think its great!!  All you idiots who bought 100's with the idea of reselling them are going to get screwed, hahahaha.
You all deserve it!
I hope you all go bankrupt.

LOL that's so mean. But seriously, the way to crack down on that is to set limits on the amount and refund those that bought over. Why does the regular person who wants to test it out suffer for the big buyers faults? I think they should help the little guy and prevent the big guys from screwing everyone over. But this is the messed up society we live in. Everyone perishes right?

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August 18, 2017, 08:53:54 AM
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I think I finally know why Bitmain is releasing so many. They want to stomp on Dash price to make it look poor relative to Bitcoin. Doing so would bring more people to Bitcoin, thus boosting Bitmains own bitcoin stash.  Jihan must have thought this through.

Why would the number of sold miners affect Dash price?
More miners -> more coins being produced and sold -> lower Dash price.

 More miners has ZERO effect on how many coins are produced.
 More miners = more DIFFICULTY, not more coins.



Yes, Dash mean more miners, less Dash. Dash has a dynamic block reward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vZDclyqh5Y&t=273s


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August 18, 2017, 01:02:23 PM
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I think I finally know why Bitmain is releasing so many. They want to stomp on Dash price to make it look poor relative to Bitcoin. Doing so would bring more people to Bitcoin, thus boosting Bitmains own bitcoin stash.  Jihan must have thought this through.
Why would the number of sold miners affect Dash price?
More miners -> more coins being produced and sold -> lower Dash price.
More miners has ZERO effect on how many coins are produced.
 More miners = more DIFFICULTY, not more coins.
Yes, Dash mean more miners, less Dash. Dash has a dynamic block reward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vZDclyqh5Y
Thanks for sharing that!

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August 18, 2017, 01:22:57 PM
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Hi,

I have 2 D3s from November 1-15 batch and PSUs. If anyone is interested, let me know. I need 3750€ a piece for D3 + APW3++. Shipping via UPS or DHL to European Union as soon as I receive the miner is included. I will receive the miner, pay import tax and send same day via tracked UPD or DHL, if someone buys it before then. Of course, escrow is possible and even encouraged.

PM me.
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August 18, 2017, 02:06:53 PM
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Hi,

I have 2 D3s from november 1-15 batch and PSUs. If anyone is interested, let me know. I need 3750€ a piece for D3 + APW3++. Shipping via UPS or DHL to European Union as soon as I receive the miner is included.

PM me.

You do realize these units are currently in stock for November delivery... Meaning anybody can order directly from Bitmain right now...
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August 18, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
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yes sure, but my miners are from November 1-14 batch and therefore, more profitable than the ones available now (November 24-30 batch).  

Also, I will handle import taxes into EU and save potential clients the hassle of ordering (which may soon be a hassle again, because stocks are always finite).
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August 18, 2017, 03:37:15 PM
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Madness and very bad, Bitmain has sold over 10.000 units today

--> productRemainCount value="10087"

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August 18, 2017, 03:49:53 PM
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Madness and very bad, Bitmain has sold over 10.000 units today

--> productRemainCount value="10087"

I was going to buy one but seeing so many being sold. I think by the time I get it 15GH/s will probably generate .5 DASH per month so ROI is more or less a year.
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August 18, 2017, 03:57:56 PM
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I think I finally know why Bitmain is releasing so many. They want to stomp on Dash price to make it look poor relative to Bitcoin. Doing so would bring more people to Bitcoin, thus boosting Bitmains own bitcoin stash.  Jihan must have thought this through.
Why would the number of sold miners affect Dash price?
More miners -> more coins being produced and sold -> lower Dash price.
More miners has ZERO effect on how many coins are produced.
 More miners = more DIFFICULTY, not more coins.
Yes, Dash mean more miners, less Dash. Dash has a dynamic block reward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vZDclyqh5Y
Thanks for sharing that!


which will never ever change again since you only get more DASH when the diff is <3k

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August 18, 2017, 04:18:09 PM
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got D3 need WTT, you have a buyer.
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August 18, 2017, 04:41:01 PM
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I think I finally know why Bitmain is releasing so many. They want to stomp on Dash price to make it look poor relative to Bitcoin. Doing so would bring more people to Bitcoin, thus boosting Bitmains own bitcoin stash.  Jihan must have thought this through.
Why would the number of sold miners affect Dash price?
More miners -> more coins being produced and sold -> lower Dash price.
More miners has ZERO effect on how many coins are produced.
 More miners = more DIFFICULTY, not more coins.
Yes, Dash mean more miners, less Dash. Dash has a dynamic block reward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vZDclyqh5Y
Thanks for sharing that!


which will never ever change again since you only get more DASH when the diff is <3k

Except for the yearly 7% reduction that's built in. I know deflation is good but given every block mined gives masternode and governance 55% I think dash overcompensated too much on supply reduction. Needless to say it's going to have to skyrocket or die.
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August 18, 2017, 06:24:28 PM
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some Bitmain Asic porn  Grin  Bitmain
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