Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3

[AriesIV10]

We should ask bitmain to upgrade firmware to add x11, x11gost, x13, x15 to D3

Adding mining algorithms can be hard, if the BM1760 chip is not as versatile as Baikal ASIC chip is, for example.

Is it even possible for a firmware upgrade to ad  x11gost, x13, x15 and maintain the x11 on the D3?

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[AriesIV10]

You guys heard about the gold rush right ? In the end the only one who made money were the guys selling picks and shovels

I cant see why anyone is suprised at all this lol

Simple summations like shovel selling during the gold rush are just that simple.  There were many that made money mining gold.

I think what you are trying to say is that Bitmain is the only one making money.  The first batch of D3 has/is paid off and they are currently profitable, not to mention hedging on the future in which we all here doing.

Stay Calm and Mine On!

[HagssFIN]

We should ask bitmain to upgrade firmware to add x11, x11gost, x13, x15 to D3

Adding mining algorithms can be hard, if the BM1760 chip is not as versatile as Baikal ASIC chip is, for example.

Is it even possible for a firmware upgrade to ad  x11gost, x13, x15 and maintain the x11 on the D3?

I asked Bitmain via e-mail a while ago about adding algos with firmware upgrade, but their reply was this:

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Dear hagssfin,

Thanks for your consultation!
We apologize for the inconvenience to you, we do not support customers to do so..
Please let us know if you have additional questions or concerns.

Best regards,
Olivia
Bitmain

[AriesIV10]

We should ask bitmain to upgrade firmware to add x11, x11gost, x13, x15 to D3

Adding mining algorithms can be hard, if the BM1760 chip is not as versatile as Baikal ASIC chip is, for example.

Is it even possible for a firmware upgrade to ad  x11gost, x13, x15 and maintain the x11 on the D3?

I asked Bitmain via e-mail a while ago about adding algos with firmware upgrade, but their reply was this:

Code:

Dear hagssfin,

Thanks for your consultation!
We apologize for the inconvenience to you, we do not support customers to do so..
Please let us know if you have additional questions or concerns.

Best regards,
Olivia
Bitmain

I know that there are some PROGRAMMERS out there that are REALLY SMART.  Do you see the possibility of you the PROGRAMMER or Bitmain adding this as a firmware upgrade?

Thanks Hagssfin for that information!

[HagssFIN]

Problem is that we would need a guy who is both very familiar with the chip BM1760, software programming and maybe Baikal miner hardware, so that there is some reference point to help the development (Baikals are multi-algo miners).

[Flickspeed]

Unbelievable how I keep seeing threads here by retarded D3 optimists. Is Bitmain paying you to post things such as, "hey u all don't know how to mine, D3 will roi in 6 months, just wait for price of dash to go up"? No matter what the Dash price does, I currently wouldn't buy a D3 for $400 and that's because after the baikals and novemebr D3s are delivered at the end of November, you will be seeing network hashrates around 700-1000 TH/s maybe more. And guess what the revenue will be then? It will be at most 3$ a day with electricity costing almost as much. So YES a $400 NOISY HEATER is what you'll buy. There were plenty of warnings about this but nobody believed them, even the final dash batch sold out at an unbelievable pace

Every x11 owner is going to have a hard time and Baikal owners will prefer other profit algo. End november even around 10 cents per kwh can be negative.

Baikal?? LOL, that company is a joke. I wouldn't buy toothpicks from those assclowns. BTW, all you doom and gloom prognosticators. When critical negative mass is achieved on X11 profitability and most of these people that overpaid for units and overpay for electricity are losing money, shut off their machines.....what do you suppose happens to the difficulty then?

LOL. Nobody will switch them off until they are free heaters so 0 profit or loss is guaranteed for everyone in December with even a 10 cent electricity cost, eventually some will sell them to people with free electricity so difficulty will keep going up for now.

Pray for a new super coin on X11 Or why not just fork ethereum on to X11 like they forked bitcoin gold to equihash.. at least we will be doubling our ethers the same way bitcoiners are now "doubling" their bitcoins with segwit2x if you know what I mean Stupidity all around really like

[mdude77]

Problem is that we would need a guy who is both very familiar with the chip BM1760, software programming and maybe Baikal miner hardware, so that there is some reference point to help the development (Baikals are multi-algo miners).

This has been discussed a few times here now.  ASICs are not reprogrammable.

M

[crypticj]

Are people really selling them for $900 a piece.

here is the ebay link.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AntMiner-D3-17GH-s-X11-ASIC-Dash-Miner-W-Bitmain-Power-Supply-in-hand/192355408025?hash=item2cc9469899:g:sSMAAOSwVtZZ~zXT

[Dopert]

LOL. Nobody will switch them off until they are free heaters so 0 profit or loss is guaranteed for everyone in December with even a 10 cent electricity cost, eventually some will sell them to people with free electricity so difficulty will keep going up for now.

Pray for a new super coin on X11 Or why not just fork ethereum on to X11 like they forked bitcoin gold to equihash.. at least we will be doubling our ethers the same way bitcoiners are now "doubling" their bitcoins with segwit2x if you know what I mean Stupidity all around really like

Oh, that sounds good. Let dump luck change the x11 game   and then i wake up again 

[HagssFIN]

Problem is that we would need a guy who is both very familiar with the chip BM1760, software programming and maybe Baikal miner hardware, so that there is some reference point to help the development (Baikals are multi-algo miners).

This has been discussed a few times here now.  ASICs are not reprogrammable.

M

You don't have to say that like as I would not know that.

I'm simply trying keep up some constructive discussion up here, instead of whining about low profitability.

The idea that I tried to say, is that we would need to know how Baikal did the whole multi-algo thing and then see if it can even be done with the D3 at all.

[BenRickert]

Unbelievable how I keep seeing threads here by retarded D3 optimists. Is Bitmain paying you to post things such as, "hey u all don't know how to mine, D3 will roi in 6 months, just wait for price of dash to go up"? No matter what the Dash price does, I currently wouldn't buy a D3 for $400 and that's because after the baikals and novemebr D3s are delivered at the end of November, you will be seeing network hashrates around 700-1000 TH/s maybe more. And guess what the revenue will be then? It will be at most 3$ a day with electricity costing almost as much. So YES a $400 NOISY HEATER is what you'll buy. There were plenty of warnings about this but nobody believed them, even the final dash batch sold out at an unbelievable pace

Every x11 owner is going to have a hard time and Baikal owners will prefer other profit algo. End november even around 10 cents per kwh can be negative.

Baikal?? LOL, that company is a joke. I wouldn't buy toothpicks from those assclowns. BTW, all you doom and gloom prognosticators. When critical negative mass is achieved on X11 profitability and most of these people that overpaid for units and overpay for electricity are losing money, shut off their machines.....what do you suppose happens to the difficulty then?

LOL. Nobody will switch them off until they are free heaters so 0 profit or loss is guaranteed for everyone in December with even a 10 cent electricity cost, eventually some will sell them to people with free electricity so difficulty will keep going up for now.

Pray for a new super coin on X11 Or why not just fork ethereum on to X11 like they forked bitcoin gold to equihash.. at least we will be doubling our ethers the same way bitcoiners are now "doubling" their bitcoins with segwit2x if you know what I mean Stupidity all around really like

Yes....and quite a lot of it just came from you.

[Trade_BTC]

Problem is that we would need a guy who is both very familiar with the chip BM1760, software programming and maybe Baikal miner hardware, so that there is some reference point to help the development (Baikals are multi-algo miners).

This has been discussed a few times here now.  ASICs are not reprogrammable.

M

You don't have to say that like as I would not know that.

I'm simply trying keep up some constructive discussion up here, instead of whining about low profitability.

The idea that I tried to say, is that we would need to know how Baikal did the whole multi-algo thing and then see if it can even be done with the D3 at all.

The reason i even brought this up was because the 11 algorithms in x11 can all obviously be processed by this hunk of metal. So in my mind someone more adept than myself could create a means to just use one of those algo singularly in Bitmains ccminer built in.

To me it makes zero sense that a machine could only handle 11 at the same time and not just one, its obviously  capable of handling all 11. Please help me understand how this is wrong because i dont understand aparently.

[Dopert]

I put our algo request by http://www.a-set.in

Hope they join this treat soon. I know that Indiers can be queite creatief.

[mdude77]

You don't have to say that like as I would not know that.

I'm simply trying keep up some constructive discussion up here, instead of whining about low profitability.

The idea that I tried to say, is that we would need to know how Baikal did the whole multi-algo thing and then see if it can even be done with the D3 at all.

Baikal's items are FPGA, which means they are programmable.  (The P in fPga stands for programmable.)  That makes them slower but changable.  ASICs are faster and locked in.

M

[dalu1]

Programmable ASIC has been available for long time. So depends on the technology used, the D3 maybe re-programmed to support other algorithm

[stevebills]

Hi, my two D3 arrived today too (the units are 01-15 Nov. batch and are labeled 19.3Ghs), but I have paid 591 Euro of VAT and TAX. I am waiting for the APW3++ power supplies that aren't shipped yet.

mine arrived today, and UPS forgot the import tax.  So that saved me a few $

now i just need the power supplies!

Bitmain are holding on to power supplies and just sending the d3's out and talking abut rubbing salt in the wounds thay have took the piss to much they are scum bags

[mdude77]

Programmable ASIC has been available for long time. So depends on the technology used, the D3 maybe re-programmed to support other algorithm

Would you expect Bitmain to use anything but the cheapest quality?

M

[mikespax]

Got like ten units still available. Desperation is setting in.

[AriesIV10]

Got like ten units still available. Desperation is setting in.

Stay Calm.  There is still profitability.  Think long term.

[JohnDoe3490]

Got like ten units still available. Desperation is setting in.

Stay Calm.  There is still profitability.  Think long term.

We can only hope. Profitability is very small though.