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Author Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3  (Read 179108 times)
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August 08, 2017, 11:18:02 PM
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I appreciate the analysis that as hash rate climbs the price climbs.  However if you use BTC as an example there is a TON of hash chasing BTC and the profitability of those miners who mine BTC for the most part is really not very good.  This is why so many people mine the "alt's" and not BTC directly.  

With this much hash rate dumping on X11 even if the price climbs the return/profitability of the miners is going to really stink and by the end of the year, and is probably going to be a pretty grim picture.  I don't mine BTC directly for a reason.  And with this huge dog pile in X11 it looks like there are very good reasons to not mine X11.  Now if you were one of the lucky ones to get a DM11G in the first batches or possibly even one of the first batches from Bitmain you may have a shot at getting your ROI in good time frame, but everything after that starts to look like a daily grind to squeeze out any profit.  I say congrats to the guys who bought the first batches and will likely get rewarded for their risk taking.  Everyone else jumping in now are going to be shocked as their calculations for profits crumble.

If you really think Dash is going that high then now is the time to buy a lot of Dash and hold it.

I have Baikal A900 giants and the profitability of those miners has fallen to almost nothing already regardless of the algo that they support.  By next month if things don't change those miners may be lucky to break even after cost at this rate of decline.

It is time for a reality check on the expectations for these miners.    Ask someone who is mining X11 right now what the picture looks like already.

I bet Bitmain will delay batches to release late September. They will announce, "Driver issue. More testing!"

Have they done something like that in the past?

Yeah they have, actually more than once, but regardless September still great batch.

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August 09, 2017, 01:42:50 AM
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Looking like a November batch.  At this point, I would assume a price of $1,000k or so? 
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August 09, 2017, 01:59:54 AM
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Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it;

Batch 1 = 200 units
Batch 2 = 3000 units
Batch 3 = 3500 units


If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current?

Real numbers are:
B1: 250 07/18/2017
B2: 3300 07/20/2017
B3: 35000 08/03/2017

That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer.


35000 units were placed in stock for the last batch. Around 25k already paid. The rest, expired USD orders. That's why this batch only accept BTC and LTC.

If you don't trust my numbers, i'll come back in November and we'll see the hash rate.

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August 09, 2017, 02:12:31 AM
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Hello guys,

I ordered 2 Antminers D3. One from the 1st batch ( 15-25 sept ) and one from the 2nd one ( 18-28 sept ). Both are PAID in my Bitmain account.

I also purchased 4 L3+. One is coming at the end of August. The other 3 are coming in the September batch.

I also have 5 PSU from Bitmain. One of them can power 2 machines at 220-230v ( 18 connectors ).

Everything has been already PAID and is pending shipping when the time comes.

I am located in Europe ( Athens - Greece ).

I had planned to start mining in the house and had a room that was apart from the others reserved for that. Unfortunately, we need to use the room for something else, so i just can't mine in the garage because it's simply impossible.

I could possibly tell a friend to use his work space, but it would make me totally uncomfortable to ask such a thing because it's not just for 2-3 months but for a lot more...

Worst case scenario, if i have to mine i also have a backup plan but it will be kind of complicated too.

So i decided to sell. Yes all this equipment.

I can show you screenshots of my account or do anything to gain anyone's trust. I also have all the emails Bitmain sent me when they got the payments for all my orders.

If we have a deal and you are located in Europe, you are more than welcome in Athens, to meet in person and do the exchange. If you live far, i really don't know how to handle this unless you pay and i ship it or something. I don't have issues with Escrow, but i don't know how they would keep cash for so long, and also I need to know that the person will actually buy the machine and not make me wait and then change his/her mind.
Any suggestions welcome here.

Please PM me if you are interested. My prices are based on the offers i received from people on Twitter and people i chat with. It's nothing crazy, but know it is a chance to purchase D3 from the first batches.... And i don't see a lot of people selling those.... Also the L3+ is still very profitable if you check how to mine other coins too like GameCredits, Digibyte , Score coin, and simply exchange them on Bittrex or Poloniex for whatever you want!

Understand that with all the material i purchased since June, you can clearly see i was trying to make my own mini-farm, and that i am not a person looking to resell after purchasing or something.

Before you start saying about scam or anything, think that i am willing to meet in person, accept an escrow ( although i dont know how it would work if i dont have it in hand ), Paypal or any suggestions. If you have any questions, please ask. PM me with offers or pricing.

Thank you for your time!

Mike

Hi Mike, please check your inbox, I would be interested.
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August 09, 2017, 02:37:33 AM
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Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it;

Batch 1 = 200 units
Batch 2 = 3000 units
Batch 3 = 3500 units


If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current?

Real numbers are:
B1: 250 07/18/2017
B2: 3300 07/20/2017
B3: 35000 08/03/2017

That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer.


35000 units were placed in stock for the last batch. Around 25k already paid. The rest, expired USD orders. That's why this batch only accept BTC and LTC.

If you don't trust my numbers, i'll come back in November and we'll see the hash rate.



So there would be absolutely ZERO reason to buy this next batch again.  ROI would be impossible.
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August 09, 2017, 03:48:33 AM
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Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it;

Batch 1 = 200 units
Batch 2 = 3000 units
Batch 3 = 3500 units


If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current?

Real numbers are:
B1: 250 07/18/2017
B2: 3300 07/20/2017
B3: 35000 08/03/2017
You're wrong. Regardless of the "hash rate" it is physically impossible for them to sell 35000 units over the internet in 15 minutes. Just think about that for a minute. I was in the system ordering, it was crippled. Stop making shit up.

That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer.


35000 units were placed in stock for the last batch. Around 25k already paid. The rest, expired USD orders. That's why this batch only accept BTC and LTC.

If you don't trust my numbers, i'll come back in November and we'll see the hash rate.


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August 09, 2017, 04:22:03 AM
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Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it;

Batch 1 = 200 units
Batch 2 = 3000 units
Batch 3 = 3500 units


If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current?

Real numbers are:
B1: 250 07/18/2017
B2: 3300 07/20/2017
B3: 35000 08/03/2017

That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer.


35000 units were placed in stock for the last batch. Around 25k already paid. The rest, expired USD orders. That's why this batch only accept BTC and LTC.

If you don't trust my numbers, i'll come back in November and we'll see the hash rate.



The hashrate increasing will not justify your figures. Other companies are releasing in October, so that would add to the mix. I doubt 25k in orders were paid unless one of those orders was for a large mining company in which they allowed them to get first dibs on a majority.

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August 09, 2017, 05:50:06 AM
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Hi, which are the delivery time of the first four batch?

B1: 07/18/2017
B2: 07/20/2017
B3: 07/25/2017
B4: 08/03/2017

Cheers W_M
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August 09, 2017, 07:45:05 AM
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Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it;

Batch 1 = 200 units
Batch 2 = 3000 units
Batch 3 = 3500 units


If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current?

Real numbers are:
B1: 250 07/18/2017
B2: 3300 07/20/2017
B3: 35000 08/03/2017

That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer.


35000 units were placed in stock for the last batch. Around 25k already paid. The rest, expired USD orders. That's why this batch only accept BTC and LTC.

If you don't trust my numbers, i'll come back in November and we'll see the hash rate.



So there would be absolutely ZERO reason to buy this next batch again.  ROI would be impossible.

He's full of shit.

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August 09, 2017, 08:00:02 AM
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Can I lay down the miner ?

Is this a problem?

I dont have the place for 19cm height.

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August 09, 2017, 08:08:59 AM
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Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it;

Batch 1 = 200 units
Batch 2 = 3000 units
Batch 3 = 3500 units


If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current?

Real numbers are:
B1: 250 07/18/2017
B2: 3300 07/20/2017
B3: 35000 08/03/2017

That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer.


35000 units were placed in stock for the last batch. Around 25k already paid. The rest, expired USD orders. That's why this batch only accept BTC and LTC.

If you don't trust my numbers, i'll come back in November and we'll see the hash rate.



So there would be absolutely ZERO reason to buy this next batch again.  ROI would be impossible.

He's full of shit.

+1 some people just trying to put people off , no chance @ 35K..

If my L3+ can still be pulling $50 a day after 1000's and tonnes of batches im sure the first few on the D3 will ROI fast...
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August 09, 2017, 09:27:26 AM
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Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it;

Batch 1 = 200 units
Batch 2 = 3000 units
Batch 3 = 3500 units


If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current?

Real numbers are:
B1: 250 07/18/2017
B2: 3300 07/20/2017
B3: 35000 08/03/2017

That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer.


35000 units were placed in stock for the last batch. Around 25k already paid. The rest, expired USD orders. That's why this batch only accept BTC and LTC.

If you don't trust my numbers, i'll come back in November and we'll see the hash rate.



So there would be absolutely ZERO reason to buy this next batch again.  ROI would be impossible.

He's full of shit.

+1 some people just trying to put people off , no chance @ 35K..

If my L3+ can still be pulling $50 a day after 1000's and tonnes of batches im sure the first few on the D3 will ROI fast...

Wow.  How long have you had your L3?  I figured it wasn't worth buying one of those anymore either.
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August 09, 2017, 10:10:31 AM
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Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it;

Batch 1 = 200 units
Batch 2 = 3000 units
Batch 3 = 3500 units


If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current?

Real numbers are:
B1: 250 07/18/2017
B2: 3300 07/20/2017
B3: 35000 08/03/2017

That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer.


35000 units were placed in stock for the last batch. Around 25k already paid. The rest, expired USD orders. That's why this batch only accept BTC and LTC.

If you don't trust my numbers, i'll come back in November and we'll see the hash rate.



So there would be absolutely ZERO reason to buy this next batch again.  ROI would be impossible.

He's full of shit.

+1 some people just trying to put people off , no chance @ 35K..

If my L3+ can still be pulling $50 a day after 1000's and tonnes of batches im sure the first few on the D3 will ROI fast...

Wow.  How long have you had your L3?  I figured it wasn't worth buying one of those anymore either.

Not long at all, since July 20th or there abouts.
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August 09, 2017, 11:01:44 AM
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So, correct me if I'm wrong.  Could I just use this d3 X11 to mine cannabis coin or some other X11 coin to help keep profitability up for a longer period of time?  If everyone plans to use this to mine Dash, since it's the most profitable at the moment, that would keep attention away from other coins for a while.  Or am I misunderstanding mining X11?

I would, of course, ultimately trade the cannabis coin for a legitimate currency like Dash or BTC.   

Thoughts?
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August 09, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
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L3+ keeps its value because not much competition there.

D3 will suffer from competition because baikal,d3,10.8ghs one, 22ghs one, 30ghs one will compete with it. And god knows who will release new miners to compete with theese. There will be many more players at x11 side. and not many coins to switch if one falls. Thats the bad side of that. And if the rumours gets true baikal will make faster to compete with them and they give 2800$ for 3 giant+ 2500 for 15 giant+ today. This means they will get new player to the game.

Bitmain dropped the price by 1100usd so that makes people think. Will there be D3+ soon?

hope all get roi fast
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August 09, 2017, 11:45:56 AM
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August 09, 2017, 12:12:14 PM
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So, correct me if I'm wrong.  Could I just use this d3 X11 to mine cannabis coin or some other X11 coin to help keep profitability up for a longer period of time?  If everyone plans to use this to mine Dash, since it's the most profitable at the moment, that would keep attention away from other coins for a while.  Or am I misunderstanding mining X11?

I would, of course, ultimately trade the cannabis coin for a legitimate currency like Dash or BTC.   

Thoughts?

Correct. The D3 can mine any X11-based coin, just like the L3+ can mine any Scrypt-based coin. The difference is that there aren't nearly as many good X11 coins out there to pick from.

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August 09, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
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Preparing for next batch
What is the simplest way to buy LTC from credit card?

Bitpanda has lower fees than cex.io but most have a $500 per day limit.

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August 09, 2017, 12:46:33 PM
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Hi guys, i am new on the ASIC scene.
I manage to pre-order 2 D3 + psu from batch 2 ( september delivery )
I have some question, as i understand D3 come like a plug and play, plug power, ethernet and i can manage this one via PHP.
Wath miner this D3 use ?
Can we change this one if another one got better result ? Do that remove the warranty ?
The specs say 25c ambiant, so i need a maximun of 25c temp in the room where the D3 running ?

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Preparing for next batch
What is the simplest way to buy LTC from credit card?

Bitpanda has lower fees than cex.io but most have a $500 per day limit.

Thanks you but this is not enough to get D3 in case of successfull catch. So cex.io is another option but with higher fees?
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