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July 31, 2017, 10:54:21 AM
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We are Anonymous we have forked your project. join us. we are legion.

Project achilles

https://youtu.be/SYtlvkOyWA4

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056033.0

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July 31, 2017, 11:52:15 AM
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Which is the best, as performance, and free miner for Nvidia GPU ?




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July 31, 2017, 12:05:22 PM
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Which is the best, as performance, and free miner for Nvidia GPU ?
still sp1/2/3 mode is better perfomance.
palginpav  is near sp mode
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July 31, 2017, 12:26:49 PM
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Look!

Signatum is top 5 in cryptopia BTC trading volume

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?baseMarket=BTC

Well I guess this a good sign, although the coin is still new there is already considerable movement.

The price is currently dropping but since this is a new coin and we are in the middle of Bitcoin hardfork.
A lot of currency is experiencing this downward trend so this might be a best time buy SIGT.

bought a few from cryptopia and stashed it in my local wallet.

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July 31, 2017, 12:29:19 PM
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The price is currently dropping but since this is a new coin and we are in the middle of Bitcoin hardfork, a lot of currency is experiencing this downward trend.

I keep reading that but it's 90% down from the ATH.
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July 31, 2017, 12:32:38 PM
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Look!

Signatum is top 5 in cryptopia BTC trading volume

Well I guess this a good sign, although the coin is still new there is already considerable movement.
It's not bad or good, just a sign of greedy people who want to duplicate their BTC balances for some reason Smiley

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July 31, 2017, 01:10:11 PM
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Look!

Signatum is top 5 in cryptopia BTC trading volume

Well I guess this a good sign, although the coin is still new there is already considerable movement.
It's not bad or good, just a sign of greedy people who want to duplicate their BTC balances for some reason Smiley

Yes neither bad or good. But greedy? I would not want to use that term unless they got their coins in some unscrupulous way.

A lot of people wants to duplicate their BTC deposits in the hopes of benefiting from BCC split but would that mean greedy? We all need to earn something to pay our bills right?

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July 31, 2017, 01:11:12 PM
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### CWI-MINING - CWIGM

hi all ...

an update on our main page here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563601.msg20503842#msg20503842 ...

for those that are skeptical about the current state of miners and mining ( and rightly so ) - one massive piece of advice from us veterans in the industry ... DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE - and research well ...

those of us who have been 'around the traps' and have respect for the communities and ourselves - can always be counted on ... those that are there for nothing more than the 'profit' and self-gain ( especially those who evangelize themselves as 'good devs' - let alone 'good people' ) are the ones to watch out for ... their peers will tell more about them than they will ...

we have started our project because WE TOO were fed up with the garbage that was out there - and the so called 'good devs' that have been ripping the communities off for SO LONG ...

so do your research -due diligence - and make your decisions based on that and that alone ...

respect goes a long way ... and those that show none - get none ... especially those that show no respect to the the communities that FEED them - let alone support them ...

#crysx



so, with your miner, if optimized as fast as private miners everyone will be on a level playing field as long as they use your miner/pools without any initial miner fees? not sure how i feel about this... made a good bit of profit with spmod before everyone started giving it away.  either way it should be fun to witness 'THE GREAT DEV BATTLE OF 2017'

well put ...

but it is this selfish attitude that has made sp rich ...

first - 'stealing' ( thats his word - not mine ) other peoples code and privatizing it ( read - breaking the GPL license ) and RESELLING it WITHOUT sourcecode - when he should be providing the source code with it ... its NOT sp thats doing the work - its the other devs ... sp tweaks and messes with the code to make it that little bit faster - still a talent nonetheless and he is talented in doing that ... yet he STILL sells OTHER DEVELOPERS code as 'his' private miner ... breaking every license in the book ... yet he still manages to convince people like yourself the he is doing all the work - hehehe ... not only do you pay for the miner - he has already stated that others are 'stealing' his code - so a fee is already slated and implemented - then you also have to pay for the pool fee for the pool you mine on ... how much do you think you actually get for that small increase in hashrate? ...

second - CWIgm miner is NOT 'as fast as ' other miners insofar as hashrate is concerned ... we have a brought it out for Closed Beta purely for the stability basis ... our own PRIVATE miner is much faster than this ( Class A Optimization ) - and has a higher hashrate that spmod also ... all of spmod ... we will not release this one - as the code is still public ... and unlike that so called 'honest' dev sp - if we release it - we WILL provide the source for it ... guess what sp does in return for this wonderful thing that we have worked so hard for? ... yup - copy it - mess withsome of the code - PRIVATIZE it by breaking the GPL license - and resell it as his 'own' spmod#whatevernumber ... no tanx ...

we test purely for the stability of the miner - so we can eventually include it in our private miner and pool system - that WILL be for the community ... how - is of no concern of anyones - yet ...

the issue with being in front by a couple of hashes is simply greed ... 0.05btc for the spmod miner - THEN a 2.5% 'dev' fee when you mine - THEN a pool fee between 1-2% on average ... how money you think you have burned - and you call it a 'profit' ? ... if you stay out in front - great - if not - there are developers who are NOT greedy and have 400GPU in there local farm and more than 1000GPU in remote farm like sp has ... if that mentality is what yopu have to stay 'in front' of the market - then please - go waste your money on sp ... because from now on - all the help we ( i personally especially ) gave him when he first started out - will be the one thing that will work against him ... and any other dev that tries to screw the communities for the type of money he is making off YOUR back ...

if that doesnt concern you - it should ...

but as it stand - no one seems to care - except us ...

im not attacking you in any way - as you do bring up a very good solid point ... but you see - there is more to life that ripping the miners off ( especially the smaller ones that cannot afford these high fees and costs ) - there is MINING and CRYPTO and the FUN of it ... not the deliberate acts of screwing communities for money to line their own pockets ...

we here at ChainWorks Industries (CWI) do much more than mine ... which setup us apart from almost all the others ... AND we open our doors and infrastructure to those that actually commit to the communities and crytpo in general - bringing much more than higher hashrates to convince people to part with their hard earned ( and mined ) money ...

sp will be sp - as he should be ... he will do what he does ... same with wolf0 ( a great dev in his own right ) - as with palgin - and djm34 and tpruvot etc ... we will do what we need to do to grow and help the crypto community become MUCH better - and conversely the crypto community help us CWI become MUCH better also ...

battle of the devs? ... hardly ... we dont want to battle him - or any other ... we would rather work together with them - but only those that have the decency to make crypto better ... not just for this coin - or another - but in general ...

more needs to be done on this algo - and hopefully tribus next ( or another - will see ) ...

#crysx

I must protect those guys, especially wolf, djm and tpruvot cause those guys gave a lot to the community as well.
Just a simple thing, they have knowledge , and that is not something they got overnight. Learning learning learning, years and years.
Yes, maybe sometimes they just take an open source code and REWORK IT, but that is like tuning a car. Using their time and knowledge.

They sell their knowledge, like lawyers do for example. Nobody is forced to buy their reworked software.

thats what im saying tho ...

its THOSE devs ( and a few others - like klaust cbuchner tnelson genoil alexis78 - to name a few more ) that have worked their bums off to make the communities what they are in the development field - only to have a dev come in and copy their work - mess with the code - make it private - and sell it ot make himself rich ...

we dont work that way - and its no wonder that the decent devs of crypto are now going into a more 'private' mode themselves ... as we are ...

#crysx

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July 31, 2017, 01:15:01 PM
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Yes, maybe sometimes they just take an open source code and REWORK IT, but that is like tuning a car. Using their time and knowledge.

They sell their knowledge, like lawyers do for example. Nobody is forced to buy their reworked software.

Only, the license of that Open Source code-base expressively FORBIDS not distributing the derivate work's source code.

Open Source doesn't mean "take it and do whatever you want". It means "take it and do with it whatever the license allows you to". Otherwise, it's simply theft. Certainly no one is going to sue him, but that's the same as stealing from a baby. Baby ain't gonna shoot you but you literally stole.

I dont' know about ccminer, but sgminer has it's own code, and opencl kernel files.
If he supplies his own kernel file, nothing in the miner source has to be changed.

sgminer is under the GPL ...

the kernel binaries are the developers work ( which is why wolf0 can sell his binaries and NOT break the GPL code ) ...

ccminer is under GPL ... which means it 'should' only be redistributed WITH its source code ... not compiled and SOLD to make money from it WITHOUT its source being redistributed also ... thats fine if you want to break the GPL license - but not so good if you want to show everyone that you are doing it - THEN yell out and complain that someone else is stealing 'YOUR' code ... thats just plain wrong ...

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July 31, 2017, 01:17:41 PM
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90% mined by one team with arended gpu or with bug in mine algoritm, they hyip in chat and here, when they want to sell shitcoin. I lost 1BTC with this stimulated pumps. This project was created for sell chip coins and drop it later. Don't trust that is not premined, it was in other way! This is pure fraud, 100%!!!
I am making no statement about fraud or not; but what I will say/type, is that I doubt we have seen the last of any booms & crashes / spikes & dives / pump & dumps with this coin yet.
Too many coins have been mined that have yet to be traded I would say. After the fork of BTC/BCC, I expect there to be some roller-coaster rides coming up.

we totally agree ...

we believe that there is a little more to be seen here ...

we all could be wrong - but thats the fun of crypto - the 'not knowing' Wink ...

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July 31, 2017, 01:44:57 PM
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Yes, maybe sometimes they just take an open source code and REWORK IT, but that is like tuning a car. Using their time and knowledge.

They sell their knowledge, like lawyers do for example. Nobody is forced to buy their reworked software.

Only, the license of that Open Source code-base expressively FORBIDS not distributing the derivate work's source code.

Open Source doesn't mean "take it and do whatever you want". It means "take it and do with it whatever the license allows you to". Otherwise, it's simply theft. Certainly no one is going to sue him, but that's the same as stealing from a baby. Baby ain't gonna shoot you but you literally stole.

I dont' know about ccminer, but sgminer has it's own code, and opencl kernel files.
If he supplies his own kernel file, nothing in the miner source has to be changed.

sgminer is under the GPL ...

the kernel binaries are the developers work ( which is why wolf0 can sell his binaries and NOT break the GPL code ) ...

ccminer is under GPL ... which means it 'should' only be redistributed WITH its source code ... not compiled and SOLD to make money from it WITHOUT its source being redistributed also ... thats fine if you want to break the GPL license - but not so good if you want to show everyone that you are doing it - THEN yell out and complain that someone else is stealing 'YOUR' code ... thats just plain wrong ...

#crysx

Tell about GPL to sp_ (who is asking for money for his binaries) and all others, I didn't see any skunkhash 'algo' code except orginal https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer :-D

BTW, rules here won't allow you to give coins, but you can charge for miner code? LOL

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July 31, 2017, 01:48:13 PM
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I also thought it was funny that SP_ released skunk mod sp1 which was based on ccminer alexis78. He modified maybe 1% of the original code. Sold it for 0.05 Btc to lots of people, gained 100% of the reward for his 1% modification, but alexis78 got 0% of the reward, though alexis was the one who did all the coding... And for some reason people think SP is some kind of a major developer here to deserves to receive all that money...
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July 31, 2017, 01:55:59 PM
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people are fighting about miner mod

why not work together to make this coin success
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I also thought it was funny that SP_ released skunk mod sp1 which was based on ccminer alexis78. He modified maybe 1% of the original code. Sold it for 0.05 Btc to lots of people, gained 100% of the reward for his 1% modification, but alexis78 got 0% of the reward, though alexis was the one who did all the coding... And for some reason people think SP is some kind of a major developer here to deserves to receive all that money...

And they all forked cudaminer, which has 95% of core code of all ccminer versions :-D
I see one thing here: learn CUDA if you have nvidia or OpenCL if you have amd and you don't have to work anymore, just grab other's work,
add maybe 20 lines, don't forget about add yourself 'made by' printf and you become great person in crypto family.


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July 31, 2017, 02:09:31 PM
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people are fighting about miner mod

why not work together to make this coin success

i think only the dev have this potential, if he is not following his own roadmap we are screwed, this coin indeed need more features, as it is now ti's just a new altcoin with a nice new algo and nothing else, first it need some stron thing like masternodes(or better pos) or anonymity or segwit, then it need a new exchange with more volume, what about for example a pos system based on volume of exchange? you get a reward if the volume go very high other wise you get a lower reward
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20 k blocks in 13 days my calculation is 8 weeks and pos activated.

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July 31, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
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I also thought it was funny that SP_ released skunk mod sp1 which was based on ccminer alexis78. He modified maybe 1% of the original code. Sold it for 0.05 Btc to lots of people, gained 100% of the reward for his 1% modification, but alexis78 got 0% of the reward, though alexis was the one who did all the coding... And for some reason people think SP is some kind of a major developer here to deserves to receive all that money...

And they all forked cudaminer, which has 95% of core code of all ccminer versions :-D
I see one thing here: learn CUDA if you have nvidia or OpenCL if you have amd and you don't have to work anymore, just grab other's work,
add maybe 20 lines, don't forget about add yourself 'made by' printf and you become great person in crypto family.



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Me too violating GPL as I don't release source, but think everybody understand why, 'cause there are devs who don't give a shit and work on steal'n'sell sheme. At least I do it for free and never hid that took alexis78's work as a base. Otherwise, chrysophylax and his team do it the way how it should be done fairly, that's people which I respect.

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July 31, 2017, 02:20:18 PM
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And they all forked cudaminer

That's not a bad thing to fork an open source project. Pushing shit to main project/repo has more evil. In addition, many good projects could be dead for now if no one forks.


don't forget about add yourself 'made by' printf

It's a normal development process. You add code - you write credits, so other devs (and users, too) could find out the author of shitcode/good code quickly and w/o investigation of git/hg commits. Btw it's not normal to pack and sell such a miner and say it's your miner. You should sell your new .cl files for new algo(s), or a patch instead.
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I also thought it was funny that SP_ released skunk mod sp1 which was based on ccminer alexis78. He modified maybe 1% of the original code. Sold it for 0.05 Btc to lots of people, gained 100% of the reward for his 1% modification, but alexis78 got 0% of the reward, though alexis was the one who did all the coding... And for some reason people think SP is some kind of a major developer here to deserves to receive all that money...

And they all forked cudaminer, which has 95% of core code of all ccminer versions :-D
I see one thing here: learn CUDA if you have nvidia or OpenCL if you have amd and you don't have to work anymore, just grab other's work,
add maybe 20 lines, don't forget about add yourself 'made by' printf and you become great person in crypto family.



I had to register to post a reply here Smiley So I welcome myself here, thx guys Wink

Anyway, I wanted to point out my view on SP mods. Personally I would not buy from him. Even if the benefits are obvious compared to "stock" version. Its simple. Demand drives the market. And that is valid for everything. Crypto coins, hardware, modified miners etc. So If people keep buying he will keep selling. No rules here will stop this. And im not talking about fairness.

And while still here, SIGT can and could make it. As I said demand drives the market and in this case price up. So if you believe in this coin, keep on mining, keep on promoting, keep the community alive and it will be good unless dev wont disappear Smiley I dont sell coins for profit, I only take for electricity, rest is as an investment or actually using them if the market will be there where to spend them at.
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July 31, 2017, 03:21:02 PM
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Nice chart! If you can expand it more, it will be better than the official block explorer.
You mean more days? Maybe I can do a week, the only reason I created it is to know the difficulty trend. Historical data is not really useful, just for the info)

Nice work on the block explorer and thanx for sharing the "info" on miner.  Now the profitability of everything is pretty much same so I am mining something else for now. I have reached a good target to stake later. I am just going to hold it and see what happens. If I end up gaining profits I will send you some as tip just for being great to this forum and all your help. cheers

I'm holding on to mine, as it's so low now, what's the point in selling... I'll either ride it into oblivion, or enjoy a resurgence (over the long haul) if that ever comes to pass.

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