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July 24, 2017, 08:36:59 PM
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Yes its all about ROI , in such volatile market i recommend to buy a device with ROI of maximum 1 month or in dire need 2 month

 Good luck finding such a unicorn.



Every new vision and unprecedented objectives were once declared as 'unicorns' but time proved that with unity everything is possible.  Smiley

And yes also this unicorn exist already Take example those who purchased iBeLink on time are now expecting to recover ROI in 1.5 to 2 months
Similarly those who ordered D3 on time are also expecting to recover ROI in 2 months at most.  Cool

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July 24, 2017, 08:54:27 PM
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Has iBeLink made their order numbers public somewhere?

 No, they've been very closed about that - but so have ALL of the other miner manufacturers for ANY ASIC-based mining machines.



 The iBeLinks aren't going to achieve ROI in 2 months - it's already been almost that long since they were sold out and they don't appear to have shipped a significant number of them yet (and if they have shipped any it was to the folks that ordered back in May or so when they first went on pre-order).

 They *might* achieve ROI in 2 months of OPERATION if they start arriving before the end of the July, but when it takes someone 2-3 months to even GET the miner that's NOT a "2 month ROI".

 They're also going to bump the total network hashrate up a LOT before Bitmain or Innosilicon even START shipping the D3 / A5 at all, which will make it take longer for THOSE miners to achieve ROI - and THOSE miners are looking at 2 months or more of "pre-order delay" before THEY start shipping, presuming Bitmain and Innosilicon meet their announced shipping dates (Bitmain has a pretty good record there, Innosilicon is mixed).








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July 24, 2017, 09:23:03 PM
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How difficulty affects earnings seems relatively simple (higher difficulty = lower earnings), putting numbers to upcoming difficulty increases is what seems to not be obvious. I still think there might be some gleanable insights from the available data, maybe I'll spend some time with it and if anything fruitful arises I'll report back.

Yes, how is relatively simple, but yet it still gets ignored.  How to attach a diff rise to this number of monster miners is pure guess work.  Good luck wrapping numbers around this.  Grin 

I just stopped guessing.  If you can get in early you might see a decent ROI, other than that it will become a long game fast.

Yes its all about ROI , in such volatile market i recommend to buy a device with ROI of maximum 1 month or in dire need 2 month, because what you see now is going to be very different when you start mining and with massive equipment to flow in the market will increase the difficulty tons of time.

Wouldnt everyone like machines that roi in a max of 1 month for ever.  At that point manufacturers will just keep them.  It will always level itself out between seller and buyer and 1 month rois are few and far between

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July 24, 2017, 09:29:18 PM
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The issue I have is with all the sellers of the Baikal 300's. Those are going for a bare minimum of $1500, but only earn about $5/day according to coinwarz.
That's a full 300 days ROI, which is crazy given the difficulty predictions for the next few months.
A 90-day ROI would make these miners worth about $500 at best.
Same issue with any of the X11 rigs out there today. Sellers are pushing rigs with super-high ROI price points.
Best Baikal is the new 2GH rigs from the manufacturer. They ROI is about 7 months compared to 11-12 months for retail Baikal 300's
And, all these ROI numbers assume no difficulty change.
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July 24, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
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I think the preorder iBelinks are supposed to ship end of the week time frame if they ship on time.  I suspect they may get them about the same time as the people who have been ordering directly from the site at this point.  Should be interesting to see this horse race.
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July 24, 2017, 11:20:03 PM
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How difficulty affects earnings seems relatively simple (higher difficulty = lower earnings), putting numbers to upcoming difficulty increases is what seems to not be obvious. I still think there might be some gleanable insights from the available data, maybe I'll spend some time with it and if anything fruitful arises I'll report back.

Yes, how is relatively simple, but yet it still gets ignored.  How to attach a diff rise to this number of monster miners is pure guess work.  Good luck wrapping numbers around this.  Grin 

I just stopped guessing.  If you can get in early you might see a decent ROI, other than that it will become a long game fast.

Yes its all about ROI , in such volatile market i recommend to buy a device with ROI of maximum 1 month or in dire need 2 month, because what you see now is going to be very different when you start mining and with massive equipment to flow in the market will increase the difficulty tons of time.

Wouldnt everyone like machines that roi in a max of 1 month for ever.  At that point manufacturers will just keep them.  It will always level itself out between seller and buyer and 1 month rois are few and far between

If a manufacturer would prefer to keep devices with themselves for 1 month ROI then why not for 3 month ROI ?
.....Remember even now manufacturer's keep some for themselves but they can't keep all, its a volatile market afterall and they have to make some sales to fund next version of their miners.

Its all about we miners raising our voices and telling Mining equipment manufacturers to provide it for no more than 2 months ROI and again 1 month ideally speaking.
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July 24, 2017, 11:21:16 PM
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I think the preorder iBelinks are supposed to ship end of the week time frame if they ship on time.  I suspect they may get them about the same time as the people who have been ordering directly from the site at this point.  Should be interesting to see this horse race.

Lets hope for best i will share when i get mine.  Cool
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July 24, 2017, 11:23:52 PM
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Has iBeLink made their order numbers public somewhere?

 No, they've been very closed about that - but so have ALL of the other miner manufacturers for ANY ASIC-based mining machines.



 The iBeLinks aren't going to achieve ROI in 2 months - it's already been almost that long since they were sold out and they don't appear to have shipped a significant number of them yet (and if they have shipped any it was to the folks that ordered back in May or so when they first went on pre-order).

 They *might* achieve ROI in 2 months of OPERATION if they start arriving before the end of the July, but when it takes someone 2-3 months to even GET the miner that's NOT a "2 month ROI".

 They're also going to bump the total network hashrate up a LOT before Bitmain or Innosilicon even START shipping the D3 / A5 at all, which will make it take longer for THOSE miners to achieve ROI - and THOSE miners are looking at 2 months or more of "pre-order delay" before THEY start shipping, presuming Bitmain and Innosilicon meet their announced shipping dates (Bitmain has a pretty good record there, Innosilicon is mixed).


Thanks for your feedback.

I am expecting mine to arrive by 10th August so lets hope i make my ROI in 1 t 2 months and that is very much possible based on scneario that Innosillicon monsters and Bitmain's D3 won't be shipping before October 1st.

And in worst case the ROI will be in 3 months, but lets hope for best i am hoping for 1.5 month ROI period
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July 24, 2017, 11:37:09 PM
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https://www.ehsminer.com/product/ehs-asic-scrypt-miner-vi/
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July 24, 2017, 11:44:44 PM
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Mmmmm. Yes please

Anyone heard of these guys before?

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July 25, 2017, 12:02:44 AM
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Quite a bump, waiting for my D11 and D3, cross fingers Wink
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July 25, 2017, 12:16:37 AM
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This now generic ASIC miner picture has been floating around in this forum for what, around 2 years?

The last time (2 weeks ago?) I believe was in the computer hardware for sale topic from a different front company as a LTC ASIC miner.

So the scam-o-meter should be reading > 90%. Fake ASIC miners can really push buttons.

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July 25, 2017, 12:38:03 AM
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This company/group(EHS Miner) has been working on these miners for 3 years and produced exactly NOTHING.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573712.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1769328.0
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July 25, 2017, 03:07:22 AM
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Sorry to butt in guys, but is there any word on a smaller version of this ASIC miner? Seems like a sweet deal, but I'm not really willing to shell out half of the BTC I own for this... At the moment, it's just a tough risk to take for me.

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July 25, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
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Sorry to butt in guys, but is there any word on a smaller version of this ASIC miner? Seems like a sweet deal, but I'm not really willing to shell out half of the BTC I own for this... At the moment, it's just a tough risk to take for me.

 Unlike the A4 (and in some ways the A2), Innosilicon seems to have designed the A5 to not be easily (if at all) splittable into smaller units.


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July 25, 2017, 08:31:38 AM
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 Long running scam site that changes the "specs" on it's vaporware to suit every time someone else comes out with something new.

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July 25, 2017, 09:56:39 AM
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Does anyone know what happened to network hashrate of DASH right after A4 and current X11 miners were released?  Based on the change, can we expect how much of dumpage A5 or D3 will take in terms of profitability?

A4 mines Litecoin rather than Dash... which is an incredibly misleading naming scheme.


 How so?

 Innosilicon has been quite consistent in their naming scheme - except they never got around to actually releasing the A3 at all (I've seen commentary that the A3 wasn't going to be efficient enough to compete by the time it would have been released as WHY Innosilicon never pushed it into production).


 They seem to be pointing at the "turbo mode" 38 GH/S as justification for the $10k pricing - though their specs make the A5 very little more efficient than the D3 at that point.
 This is similar to how they positioned the A2, and not entirely unreasonable as I suspect most A2 units have spent most or all of their time in "turbo mode" (though the ORIGINAL PS in the A2 did NOT support full turbo on the "110 Mh/s" units, some later units seems to have upgraded the PS to one that could do so).


 If I remember the timing right, the original model IBelink showed up around Febuary 2016, the Pinidea models in March 2016, and the original Baikal in May 2016.
 I could easily be a month off on those dates though, but all 3 were DEFINITELY available by June 2016 (or had already sold out).


 I don't think Innosilicon is including free delivery, but they are including a free power supply for early orders (probably left over stock of the SAME power supply they put in late A2 110Mh/s units, which have proven to be fair reliability).
 I doubt the shipping cost is going to be significant to folks buying these though.




I hope everyone who considers the A5 at 38 ghs overclock mode understands overclocking the A5 is listed as reason to void warranty ! Like with the A4 you can overclock ,but it voids warranty and I was told by one of their techs overclocking A4 will always cause damage to chip which is why it voids warranty. So 10 k is for 30.00 ghs overclock should not be a factor unless you really want to gamble and void you warranty. Read below they say excessive overclocking so who judges what is considered excessive ?


The warranty expires in the following cases:

    Miner is demolished, privately altered or component replacement by customers;
    Lightning, voltage surges, poor quality power supply causing damage;
    Circuit boards and components damaged by water, exposed to moisture or corroded;
    The circuit board or the chip is completely burned;
    Excessive Over-clocking in a overheating environment.
    If above case happens, services of your miner maintenance will be charged. For the specific procedures, please refer to the after-sales process.
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July 25, 2017, 10:32:16 AM
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The warranty expires if exceeded 38ghs
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July 25, 2017, 10:39:43 AM
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new batch d3 now!
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July 25, 2017, 10:48:34 AM
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D3 new batch live for Sale for September delivery.  Wink
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