Goodbye Pinidea and Baikal

[QuintLeo]

Sure, that's why they suddenly have 500 in stock and are trying to unload them. Clearly, you lack some critical thought skills, so you have to fall back on an ad hominem and call me a conspiracy theorist. I'm not going to do your research for you. It's evident to anyone who's not uninformed that they have been selling domestically.

Oh, and you're completely full of crap on Pinidea. I was in the process of ordering in late March when I was in the hospital when they sold the last unit and told me too bad.

I worked for Novellus building annealing machines for Intel, don't preach to me about how long chips take to manufacture because clearly, you don't know.

 It's not just the actual manufacture time.

 You have to order the chips, get the order confirmed, get the order SCHEDUALED for when the line has capacity available (this is the PRIMARY issue right now for most ASIC chip makers), get the line set up, make the wafers, cut the chips, test the chips for defects, package them, ship them....

 The non-manufacturing time is the majority of the delay between when someone orders chips and when they have usable packaged chips - and it's a HUGE majority of the time for folks working on recent process nodes as the lines tend to be "booked out" for quite a while at a time. 14/16nm is really bad there, you're looking at MONTHS of lead time because the lines are running at capacity and there's so much of that capacity booked out or "contract locked" to specific manufacturers.


 Why would Baikal "suddenly have 500 in stock"?
Gee, perhaps they got a shipment of chips in over the last week and just got them built?
After all, making miners is what they DO....

[QuintLeo]

d3 from bitmain is not the fastest miner, so why you ar elinked that? innosinol is making a even better miner 2x faster than the d3 hashminer, baikal was just a small company can not compete with bitmain which control the bitcoin mining

If they can come out with their miner with the speeds and consumption they promise, which they won't. They still charge $13,000 for double the hash rate of a $2,700 miner. Why wouldn't I buy 5 D3 for that price?

 Where is this BS "$13,000" figure from?

 Innosilicon has the A5 listed for $9999, and that is the ONLY figure they have ever listed for it.


 It's arguable that the A5 is a 38 Ghash miner, given the "turbo mode" and that might explain why they're charging so much for it.
 I still think it's a bit overpriced though, even with that factored in.

 It's NOT "5 times the price for double the miner" though.

[thesavoyard]

d3 from bitmain is not the fastest miner, so why you ar elinked that? innosinol is making a even better miner 2x faster than the d3 hashminer, baikal was just a small company can not compete with bitmain which control the bitcoin mining

If they can come out with their miner with the speeds and consumption they promise, which they won't. They still charge $13,000 for double the hash rate of a $2,700 miner. Why wouldn't I buy 5 D3 for that price?

 Where is this BS "$13,000" figure from?

 Innosilicon has the A5 listed for $9999, and that is the ONLY figure they have ever listed for it.


 It's arguable that the A5 is a 38 Ghash miner, given the "turbo mode" and that might explain why they're charging so much for it.
 I still think it's a bit overpriced though, even with that factored in.

 It's NOT "5 times the price for double the miner" though.

A quick Google and I found a site selling it for 13k, could be a scam though. It's still just under 4x the price of the D3, although, no one has ever claimed 38gh and I have my doubts. For around $11k you get 60 Ghash and that's not from any claimed boost, that's steady mining speed. The only people who would buy the A5 are people who are desperate when the D3 is sold out.

[sil2222]

Sure, that's why they suddenly have 500 in stock and are trying to unload them. Clearly, you lack some critical thought skills, so you have to fall back on an ad hominem and call me a conspiracy theorist. I'm not going to do your research for you. It's evident to anyone who's not uninformed that they have been selling domestically.

Oh, and you're completely full of crap on Pinidea. I was in the process of ordering in late March when I was in the hospital when they sold the last unit and told me too bad.

I worked for Novellus building annealing machines for Intel, don't preach to me about how long chips take to manufacture because clearly, you don't know.

 It's not just the actual manufacture time.

 You have to order the chips, get the order confirmed, get the order SCHEDUALED for when the line has capacity available (this is the PRIMARY issue right now for most ASIC chip makers), get the line set up, make the wafers, cut the chips, test the chips for defects, package them, ship them....

 The non-manufacturing time is the majority of the delay between when someone orders chips and when they have usable packaged chips - and it's a HUGE majority of the time for folks working on recent process nodes as the lines tend to be "booked out" for quite a while at a time. 14/16nm is really bad there, you're looking at MONTHS of lead time because the lines are running at capacity and there's so much of that capacity booked out or "contract locked" to specific manufacturers.


 Why would Baikal "suddenly have 500 in stock"?
Gee, perhaps they got a shipment of chips in over the last week and just got them built?
After all, making miners is what they DO....

Ummmmm Why are most of the miners they are listing 2nd hand. Yeah your argument is wrong. Baikal was hoarding miners and supplying only their vendors. I had an opportunity to purchase the A+ Giant 2 months before any actual pictures of it surfaced on the net I declined because the asking price was $9600 at the time. the Vendor told me he had multiple unit from his private stash. Your argument is all speculation these miners where being sold privately to the inner circle of vendors if a few units leaked out the price was around 10k. So yes Baikal hoarders and do not care about U.S customers. Period. Baikal has no excuse for how they have treated USA customers.

[Nebell]

Most Chinese companies have young women who deal with international customers. You need to know how to open up with them and you will get much better service.
Write something like 你好，那漂亮的女孩 and compliment her hair (even though you cant' see it, just say you love black hair and deep black eyes). Also, chinese girls don't like alpha males. Don't go western attitude on them. Chinese women are experts at ignoring people. Once you fuck it up, it's done.