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January 21, 2018, 12:18:03 AM
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lol

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January 21, 2018, 12:21:27 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

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January 21, 2018, 12:23:53 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word

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January 21, 2018, 12:26:48 AM
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Hmm. So it cost you either 1/3 or 2/3 of the value you had in the channel in order to close it. Let's presume 1/3 to be generous. We can therefor assume it likely cost another 1/3 to open it. So you spent 2/3 of your nut just opening and closing your channel. Gee - sounds great. Sign me up.
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Um, your math is wrong...
fee=0.00026113
principal=0.00973887
0.00026113/0.00973887=0.02681317237
0.02681317237*100=2.681317237%
that is not 1/3

Mea culpa. Unfamiliar interface. I saw the two outputs, and assumed one was the fee.

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January 21, 2018, 12:29:07 AM
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Hmm. So it cost you either 1/3 or 2/3 of the value you had in the channel in order to close it. Let's presume 1/3 to be generous. We can therefor assume it likely cost another 1/3 to open it. So you spent 2/3 of your nut just opening and closing your channel. Gee - sounds great. Sign me up.
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Um, your math is wrong...
fee=0.00026113
principal=0.00973887
0.00026113/0.00973887=0.02681317237
0.02681317237*100=2.681317237%
that is not 1/3

Mea culpa. Unfamiliar interface. I saw the two outputs, and assumed one was the fee.

No one is what I didnt spend and was returned the other is what I spent and was sent to the other party and the funds never left the chain either they were just placed into a "temporary" wallet still secured that when I closed the channel were automatically split to the value of the final channel balance

 
This was the funding transaction 25 days ago

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January 21, 2018, 01:24:23 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



no, lightning is not complicated, and tomorrow will be working. (irony mode)

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January 21, 2018, 01:25:35 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word



Then send it and show a screenshot  Roll Eyes



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January 21, 2018, 01:27:22 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word



with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations  Cool

I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now

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January 21, 2018, 01:30:56 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word



with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations  Cool

I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now

You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless

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January 21, 2018, 01:31:40 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word



Anyway what do you do here explaining the complications and cumbersome implementations of lightning in this forum?

Here we do not need lightning, bitcoin cash works with 0 confirmations

I do not understand their behavior, unless it is a CORE TROLL

And bitcoin cash is working NOW, everything else segwit and lightning is just smoke, have three years with the same story, promises and more promises

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January 21, 2018, 01:38:02 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word



with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations  Cool

I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now

You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless



Lightning will understand enough, but otherwise it is quite clumsy

I will explain how the 0 confirmations works, it is quite simple.

Nobody has to accept or not, it's a fact, sending in bitcoin cash has total security that your tx will be confirmed in the next block no matter what happens.

Also the tx are again immutable, can not be returned or sent to another recipient by changing the rate, something that introduced Core and has been put to normality in bitcon cash

And if you buy a Ferrari I guess the seller would not mind waiting 10min to be confirmed

Core introduced the change of tx rate to create a problem and offer us your paypal solution

Core limito el tamaño de bloque para crear un problea y ofrecernos su solucion paypal

etc, etc

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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool

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If you think LN is great, read this

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7rtcd2/if_you_think_ln_is_great_read_this/

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January 21, 2018, 01:46:06 AM
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool


Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding Wink weee

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January 21, 2018, 01:48:39 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word



with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations  Cool

I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now

You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless




And if you buy a Ferrari I guess the seller would not mind waiting 10min to be confirmed



If you're buying a ferrari you won't be concerned about having to pay a $5 fee  Roll Eyes

What about in store retail

LN: quick scan thank you come again and off you go

BCH : There is seating available over there while we wait for confirmation we apologize but it's store policy  

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January 21, 2018, 01:48:55 AM
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It seems that tekmobile is capable of piloting a space shuttle and landing on Mars (lightning), but does not know how to start the car and get it out of the garage (bch).

We do not need a space shuttle to go to work

Thanks tekmobile but you can go to the bcore forum to deceive them of the kindness of lightning, here we are for issues about bitcoin cash

I do not know if he realized the title of the thread

It is not more than a TROLL PAID BY CORE

just write in this forum to talk about lightning and cheat about bch

fomo y fud, fomo y fud, does not do anything else, I imagine that they should give him good bananas in return

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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool


Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding Wink weee

tekmobile has called his friends to help him haha

When I start to attack you and leave you without arguments, call your co-workers haha

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actually ya i changed my mind after seeing Andreas Antonopolous seal of approval ~ BeeCash trying to fragment the real bitcoin is not forgivable imo :\ n00bs<===

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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool


Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding Wink weee

will bring, soon, they are implementing,

promises, promises, promises,

in bitcoin cash the low rates are already working, and paying 2 cents already seems low enough, here you do not need paypal lightning

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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool


Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding Wink weee

tekmobile has called his friends to help him haha

When I start to attack you and leave you without arguments, call your co-workers haha

experts agree BeeCash is not bitcoin ===>

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