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November 06, 2018, 05:37:51 PM
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Are users coins safe while all these shitheads argue among themselves?

if you're in control of your private key and don't transact during all this weirdness you'll be fine.

 electron cash said: https://electroncash.org/nov2018.html

According to NIST and ECRYPT II, the cryptographic algorithms used in Bitcoin are expected to be strong until at least 2030. (After that, it will not be too difficult to transition to different algorithms.)
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November 06, 2018, 05:46:29 PM
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I have my BCH on a Trezor, should I move them before 15 Nov to claim both forks?

trezor works with electron cash

when you are in electron cash with your trezor select this server (bch.electrumx.cash) which runs an SV node or another one from the list on electrons website https://electroncash.org/nov2018.html .  You can check which server runs what node software in the banner when you connect (console tab)

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November 06, 2018, 06:16:29 PM
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[BITCOIN CASH] Development
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5064089.msg47628306

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November 06, 2018, 06:47:46 PM
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Nice


https://coinspice.io/video/crypto-analyst-alex-fauvel-bch-innovation-just-barely-getting-started/


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November 06, 2018, 10:40:30 PM
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I have my BCH on a Trezor, should I move them before 15 Nov to claim both forks?

trezor works with electron cash

when you are in electron cash with your trezor select this server (bch.electrumx.cash) which runs an SV node or another one from the list on electrons website https://electroncash.org/nov2018.html .  You can check which server runs what node software in the banner when you connect (console tab)

Ok thanks, good to know!
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November 06, 2018, 11:11:34 PM
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If csw recommends to hold fiat instead of bch for the hf and coingeek tries to buy as much hashpower as possible and so far bch price has tanked so hard since ath, would be unfair to assume that calvin ayre sold his bch coins already and now tries to buy them back cheaply? Or is the use of Ockham's razor against intellectual weapon regulations?
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November 06, 2018, 11:20:32 PM
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I thought they didn't want CTOR is because buisnesses would have to change how they work, putting them slightly out of commision for a while? so now the plan is just to completely halt the network? thats not very useful for p2p cash.
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November 07, 2018, 01:05:46 AM
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November 07, 2018, 02:28:28 AM
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Is it possible to claim bitcoin cash without revealing which bitcoin address claimed the coins?
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November 07, 2018, 02:57:07 AM
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It seems bitcoin cash is doing great this weekend, I have seen its price increase even if BTC price falls and now and it is on the 600$ plus. Well played to all the investors and traders who had BCH. Cheers!

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November 07, 2018, 02:59:23 AM
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PUMP  PUMP  PUMP!!!

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
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November 07, 2018, 03:07:20 AM
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this is a remarkable achievement, when BTC prices are difficult to increase, BCH has been able to improve well in the past few days.
I hope this will continue so that BCH can touch ATH again by 2019.

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November 07, 2018, 03:44:48 AM
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Did you get a source for this? I mean I think it would be just like Craig Wright to only fork off the BCH addresses of current wallet addresses...not the legacy

I can't speak to Electron Cash's implementation. (At least not yet) I think Jonald is not on the side of the SV fork.

Though your hypothetical does not seem logical to me. If the SV branch does not include old addresses, it necessarily turns its back on the 'original Bitcoin' theme.

SV does not include replay protection (why would they - that would also be turning its back on 'original bitcoin'), so there is the burden on the hodler to manage the split intelligently.

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November 07, 2018, 03:47:35 AM
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How to easily split if somehow the Wright chain get some value

https://github.com/markblundeberg/coinsplitter_checkdatasig/releases/tag/3.3.1CS

I don't know the name Mark Blundeberg. Is he a major Electron Cash submitter? I only ask, as a forked wallet would be an excellent way to steal the coins of unsuspecting users.

Note I am not trying to malign monsieur Blundeberg. I just don't know. And this is crypto. Stay wary, my friends.

Edit: Jonald seems to have some modicum of confidence in Mr Lundeberg. From https://electroncash.org/nov2018.html :

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I, Jonald Fyookball, maintainer of Electron Cash, have checked the deterministic Windows build of Mark Lundeberg's coinsplitter and can confirm the following SHA256 checksum reproduces on my setup:

b307b23f86aa8ec600d43686e3bf75d41ed423ea54290632d61466f8ab904656 Electron Cash-3.3.1CS.exe

I have not, however, reviewed the full set of code differences from the official Electron Cash.

Though note the fact that the changes have not been thoroughly reviewed.

I seem to remember that a malfeasant fork of Electrum was the way many got scammed out of their Bitcoin Gold.

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November 07, 2018, 03:51:30 AM
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I have my BCH on a Trezor, should I move them before 15 Nov to claim both forks?

I guess it depends upon what you mean by 'claim'. Most of mine are on a HW wallet, though not Trezor. i can access the private keys from my HW wallet. Does Trezor allow this? (I would be astonished if not). Then you can always spend your UTXO to each/both/all fork. Though some manual manipulation may be required. Maybe import into a fork-aware wallet. But you'll be able to do so. Even years hence, should you not want to do anything just yet.

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November 07, 2018, 03:54:29 AM
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So is the fork now 100% confirmed?

None of the factions are capitulating, so it appears the fork is still the most likely outcome.

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When would it happen?

2018 November 15.

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Will it be 1:1?

Well, that is the way forks work. Though depending upon how many possible forks maintain a future life, it may be 1:1, 1:1:1, 1:1:1:1, or even some greater number of forks, depending upon who uses Bitcoin Unlimited, and how each user configures that client.

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November 07, 2018, 03:55:43 AM
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Are users coins safe while all these shitheads argue among themselves?

What ever do you mean?

Your private keys, your coins. Not your private keys, not your coins. Same as it ever was.

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November 07, 2018, 04:03:16 AM
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I thought they didn't want CTOR is because buisnesses would have to change how they work, putting them slightly out of commision for a while? so now the plan is just to completely halt the network? thats not very useful for p2p cash.

None of the forks halts the network. Most exchanges seem to be halting the trading of BCH on that exchange while the churn of the fork happens. But exchanges don't engage in on-chain transactions (other than funds in or out), they engage in database record manipulations.

If you want to engage in on-chain transactions, there is no system enforced halt. Though you may want to ensure you know the consequences of spending to/from a minority/majority chain.

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November 07, 2018, 06:26:32 AM
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How to easily split if somehow the Wright chain get some value

https://github.com/markblundeberg/coinsplitter_checkdatasig/releases/tag/3.3.1CS

I don't know the name Mark Blundeberg. Is he a major Electron Cash submitter? I only ask, as a forked wallet would be an excellent way to steal the coins of unsuspecting users.

Note I am not trying to malign monsieur Blundeberg. I just don't know. And this is crypto. Stay wary, my friends.

Edit: Jonald seems to have some modicum of confidence in Mr Lundeberg. From https://electroncash.org/nov2018.html :

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I, Jonald Fyookball, maintainer of Electron Cash, have checked the deterministic Windows build of Mark Lundeberg's coinsplitter and can confirm the following SHA256 checksum reproduces on my setup:

b307b23f86aa8ec600d43686e3bf75d41ed423ea54290632d61466f8ab904656 Electron Cash-3.3.1CS.exe

I have not, however, reviewed the full set of code differences from the official Electron Cash.

Though note the fact that the changes have not been thoroughly reviewed.

I seem to remember that a malfeasant fork of Electrum was the way many got scammed out of their Bitcoin Gold.

actually you are perfectly correct to be concerned IMO.  As I understand the fyookball guy is not able to be proven as a real person nor can he create a legit business to take electron cash to the next level of legitimacy..  to me those are worth mention here.

handcash made statement today they are ready for the fork and are SV node based. 

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November 07, 2018, 11:09:15 AM
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bch is the stuff which dreams are made of
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