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November 11, 2018, 03:48:32 AM
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Again, folk on this thread have 'tried' to explain this to me before. But I'm still befuddled....so just checking...

IF you have a BTC paper wallet from 2015 with your BTC and of course 1st fork of BCH coin on that wallet from the first BCH fork.

AND you never have touched it. It still has its 'virgin' BTC and 'virgin' BCH sitting their patiently trolling you to blow it on girls and travel Sad

Do you have to move your BCH to an individual wallet BCH for this next BCH fork off of above original BTC 2015 paper wallet address chain to work?

Or will it act like all other forks of above with riginal BTC wallet with BCH on it....and you don't have to do zip...moving the BCH off of the legacy address?

Thus, does my original BTC and BCH wallet address from 2015 above act like the original 1st BCH wallet as well and no move is needed?

Hopefully, this clears up what I'm asking. I assume I can leave all this alone and this next BCH fork will be included in the 'varied attachments of many dubious

forked BTC coins' on this BTC paper wallet from 2015 Smiley

I'd think this is the case for all those BTC wallets that have yet to move off BCH off them yet from the very first BCH fork. Thus this next BCH fork

will act the same, without any action on my part. Or my 'paranoia' is justified and this next BCH forked coin off of BCH can only fork off a 'pure' BCH address..thus I'd better move off the BCH.

Probably more than 50% of folk never moving their original BCH off their original BTC...that would be a lot less of this BCH forked coin in the world if the fork is off of a generated BCH wallet address only!

Hopefully, what I'm asking makes sense...but use small words and pictures....for clarity...I seem to be getting 'dimmer' with age, dont' ya know. ...not that I'm paranoid..it is just that I'm very, very, paranoid. Smiley

(could be worse, I could work for NASA and screw up the technical communications as I did with previous posts on this thread to me on this and everyone dies.eaaaak!..best to grovel and just ask again Sad

thank you for your patience on this Smiley

I will labor to be less of an 'idiot' in the future Smiley

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your question is good.  please keep asking until you are satisfied.

You do not need to do anything.  If you have your private keys you have your coins.  There is only ONE BitCoin Wink

However Seg wit coins, lightning network tokens and now DSV are not secure ECONOMICALLY speaking Wink


Well, I never really got a clear answer. I assume?Huh that since the BTC paper wallet I have from 2015 has BTC on it undisturbed...and thus also on that same wallet when emptied has BCH on it undisturbed...

that when/if I move the BTC someplace ..wa la! it becomes my 1st BCH wallet ..thus this coming fork will then show up on such.

otherwise, what is it 51% or some such of BTC wallets have NOT seperated their BCH coins from such by moving and siphoning off the BCH....

if that is not the case....well we will see...just not doing crap....if I have to run around moving all the forked coin off my original BTC chain in order to get any forks of those forks...

well now that is just gettin silly

but as to the above an answer from someone on the above well 'deafening silence'

so that means that the craig wright fork of BCH if it ONLY is off seprated BTC wallets etc...the payout in BCH would probably be what 40% of BTC wallets from back in the day IF PEOPLE CLAIM IT

if not craig wright fork does not have to shoot out a lot of BCH forked coins.

or

it is just obvious what i put above is correct and I don't have to do anything to get the BCH fork of my 'untouched' 2015 BTC wallet with original BCH ...and my question is just stupid to those in the know

*hey, I'm not the sharpest shovel in the shed*

anyway, not doing crap....my 2015 paper wallet of BTC is sitting safe/fat and  happy in the bank safety deposit box.....if I start moving coin around to differenent addresses and such....I could snap like

a dry twig and have a life of romance/travel and adventure....shudder.....sounds like work..best not to be tempted even 'gazing' on those 2015 paper wallets...I could be ....well....'exciting' grrrrrrr....

later

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November 11, 2018, 04:30:52 AM
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How to easily split if somehow the Wright chain get some value

https://github.com/markblundeberg/coinsplitter_checkdatasig/releases/tag/3.3.1CS

I don't know the name Mark Blundeberg. Is he a major Electron Cash submitter? I only ask, as a forked wallet would be an excellent way to steal the coins of unsuspecting users.

Note I am not trying to malign monsieur Blundeberg. I just don't know. And this is crypto. Stay wary, my friends.

Edit: Jonald seems to have some modicum of confidence in Mr Lundeberg. From https://electroncash.org/nov2018.html :

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I, Jonald Fyookball, maintainer of Electron Cash, have checked the deterministic Windows build of Mark Lundeberg's coinsplitter and can confirm the following SHA256 checksum reproduces on my setup:

b307b23f86aa8ec600d43686e3bf75d41ed423ea54290632d61466f8ab904656 Electron Cash-3.3.1CS.exe

I have not, however, reviewed the full set of code differences from the official Electron Cash.

Though note the fact that the changes have not been thoroughly reviewed.

I seem to remember that a malfeasant fork of Electrum was the way many got scammed out of their Bitcoin Gold.

be concerned.  As I understand the fyookball guy is not able to be proven as a real person nor can he create a legit business to take electron cash to the next level of legitimacy...

handcash made statement today they are ready for the fork and are SV node based. 
Electrum fork handling bug, which electron cash inherited.
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/electrum/blockchain.py#L267

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Again, folk on this thread have 'tried' to explain this to me before. But I'm still befuddled....so just checking...

IF you have a BTC paper wallet from 2015 with your BTC and of course 1st fork of BCH coin on that wallet from the first BCH fork.

AND you never have touched it. It still has its 'virgin' BTC and 'virgin' BCH sitting their patiently trolling you to blow it on girls and travel Sad

Do you have to move your BCH to an individual wallet BCH for this next BCH fork off of above original BTC 2015 paper wallet address chain to work?

Or will it act like all other forks of above with riginal BTC wallet with BCH on it....and you don't have to do zip...moving the BCH off of the legacy address?

Thus, does my original BTC and BCH wallet address from 2015 above act like the original 1st BCH wallet as well and no move is needed?

Hopefully, this clears up what I'm asking. I assume I can leave all this alone and this next BCH fork will be included in the 'varied attachments of many dubious

forked BTC coins' on this BTC paper wallet from 2015 Smiley

I'd think this is the case for all those BTC wallets that have yet to move off BCH off them yet from the very first BCH fork. Thus this next BCH fork

will act the same, without any action on my part. Or my 'paranoia' is justified and this next BCH forked coin off of BCH can only fork off a 'pure' BCH address..thus I'd better move off the BCH.

Probably more than 50% of folk never moving their original BCH off their original BTC...that would be a lot less of this BCH forked coin in the world if the fork is off of a generated BCH wallet address only!

Hopefully, what I'm asking makes sense...but use small words and pictures....for clarity...I seem to be getting 'dimmer' with age, dont' ya know. ...not that I'm paranoid..it is just that I'm very, very, paranoid. Smiley

(could be worse, I could work for NASA and screw up the technical communications as I did with previous posts on this thread to me on this and everyone dies.eaaaak!..best to grovel and just ask again Sad

thank you for your patience on this Smiley

I will labor to be less of an 'idiot' in the future Smiley

brad






your question is good.  please keep asking until you are satisfied.

You do not need to do anything.  If you have your private keys you have your coins.  There is only ONE BitCoin Wink

However Seg wit coins, lightning network tokens and now DSV are not secure ECONOMICALLY speaking Wink


Well, I never really got a clear answer. I assume?Huh that since the BTC paper wallet I have from 2015 has BTC on it undisturbed...and thus also on that same wallet when emptied has BCH on it undisturbed...

that when/if I move the BTC someplace ..wa la! it becomes my 1st BCH wallet ..thus this coming fork will then show up on such.

otherwise, what is it 51% or some such of BTC wallets have NOT seperated their BCH coins from such by moving and siphoning off the BCH....

if that is not the case....well we will see...just not doing crap....if I have to run around moving all the forked coin off my original BTC chain in order to get any forks of those forks...

well now that is just gettin silly

but as to the above an answer from someone on the above well 'deafening silence'

so that means that the craig wright fork of BCH if it ONLY is off seprated BTC wallets etc...the payout in BCH would probably be what 40% of BTC wallets from back in the day IF PEOPLE CLAIM IT

if not craig wright fork does not have to shoot out a lot of BCH forked coins.

or

it is just obvious what i put above is correct and I don't have to do anything to get the BCH fork of my 'untouched' 2015 BTC wallet with original BCH ...and my question is just stupid to those in the know

*hey, I'm not the sharpest shovel in the shed*

anyway, not doing crap....my 2015 paper wallet of BTC is sitting safe/fat and  happy in the bank safety deposit box.....if I start moving coin around to differenent addresses and such....I could snap like

a dry twig and have a life of romance/travel and adventure....shudder.....sounds like work..best not to be tempted even 'gazing' on those 2015 paper wallets...I could be ....well....'exciting' grrrrrrr....

later

brad




if your btc never touched seg wit and your bch never touched dsv/ctor you are fine and will have both coins still after fork.  In your case your btc&BCH are pre-seg wit and pre- dsv/ctor so you are safe in both scenarios.  

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November 11, 2018, 05:01:36 AM
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Will be Multibit HD wallet give me access to BitcoinCash?
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November 11, 2018, 06:36:54 AM
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Going into https://cryptolend.net/rates.html and checking the BCH lending rates we are currently sitting at 0.7% and we peaked at 0.75% a few hours ago, it seems they are running out of BCH to lend.

I am guessing people want to borrow BCH, so they can get both the BCH fork coins after Nov 15 and they are comfortable paying these crazy funding rates. However the fork isn't for another 4 days and by then most of the 2 day funding will most likely get cancelled.

Also Bitfinex hasn't released any statement what so ever on how they will handle the fork and how the margin trading for BCH will work.





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November 11, 2018, 08:04:58 AM
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Will be Multibit HD wallet give me access to BitcoinCash?
No brother, i will suggest you to export the private keys to some wallet which give you access to actions like BCC.
Thete are plenty on internet but download only reputed ones.

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November 11, 2018, 11:34:46 AM
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https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/310
Bitfinex is pleased to announce full support for the upcoming Bitcoin Cash hard fork taking place on November 15th, 2018.

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November 11, 2018, 02:23:03 PM
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https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/310
Bitfinex is pleased to announce full support for the upcoming Bitcoin Cash hard fork taking place on November 15th, 2018.
so other coin will born or just updated wallet of BCH only in the hardfork  . It got highlight when it reached 0.084 to 0.098 in 1 day  10% rise. Even i am still holding .

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November 11, 2018, 10:27:06 PM
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They forget to mention BitcoinStash also.
It is best fork and decentralised original Satoshi BitcoinCash coin

https://bstash.org/

https://twitter.com/BitcoinStash

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November 12, 2018, 06:48:17 AM
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https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/310
Bitfinex is pleased to announce full support for the upcoming Bitcoin Cash hard fork taking place on November 15th, 2018.

Yes I just read this. They should post how they will handle all the margin and lending of BCH during the fork to avoid the problems with the Bitcoin Cash fork last Aug 2017.

Basically as you know when you lend BCH, you won't get creditted during the fork. However the individual that borrowed the BCH to short, he will owe both chains. And the individual that bought BCH to trade would also need to get credited.

I think the way that Poloniex handled the BCH fork in Aug 2017 was clean. If you borrowed BTC , you were creditted the BCH fork. There was no percentages like the way Bitfinex handled it.





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November 12, 2018, 06:56:17 AM
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What now best miner? i have rig 1060 6gb



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November 12, 2018, 10:06:47 AM
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Hello. I keep the BCH in blockchain.com service. I know it will fork on November 15th. The development team claims that all the BCH holders will be credited with the BSV. If I leave my BCH in my wallet on the blockchain.com, will I get it?
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November 12, 2018, 11:05:58 AM
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Hello. I keep the BCH in blockchain.com service. I know it will fork on November 15th. The development team claims that all the BCH holders will be credited with the BSV. If I leave my BCH in my wallet on the blockchain.com, will I get it?


how do you feel about the price tanking so bad. It looks like by the time november 15 comes bch will be 0
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November 12, 2018, 11:17:41 AM
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https://cash.coin.dance/blocks

say goodbye to ABC, Bitmain, possibly RV, and shitcoins in the near future!

Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system for the world. BTC tips are greatly appreciated 35BqJwcycsLDoPrBxmxuh1e4MY7bcDPvGW
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November 12, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
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https://cash.coin.dance/blocks

say goodbye to ABC, Bitmain, possibly RV, and shitcoins in the near future!

people should say goodbye to bch under whole too much drama from these people this is just a sign that people should not invent in bch. We kept warning them about these nonsense about the real bitcoin crap heres what it has led to
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November 12, 2018, 01:08:19 PM
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https://cash.coin.dance/blocks

say goodbye to ABC, Bitmain, possibly RV, and shitcoins in the near future!

people should say goodbye to bch under whole too much drama from these people this is just a sign that people should not invent in bch. We kept warning them about these nonsense about the real bitcoin crap heres what it has led to

BCH is still the best option for peer to peer electronic cash. BTC is no longer bitcoin

Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system for the world. BTC tips are greatly appreciated 35BqJwcycsLDoPrBxmxuh1e4MY7bcDPvGW
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November 12, 2018, 03:55:09 PM
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Be careful with shit hooks in the BCH protocol - that will fire back sooner than you can run away

https://coingeek.com/germanys-financial-regulator-forces-closure-uk-crypto-firm/

Will not happen, if protocol is clean e cash txs and max scaling on-chain.

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November 12, 2018, 06:13:10 PM
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Be careful with shit hooks in the BCH protocol - that will fire back sooner than you can run away

https://coingeek.com/germanys-financial-regulator-forces-closure-uk-crypto-firm/

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anyway there will always be the problem of territoriality of laws, which is inavoidable..
except in the case of a future hypothetical worldwide governing body.
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November 12, 2018, 06:41:36 PM
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Will be Multibit HD wallet give me access to BitcoinCash?
No brother, i will suggest you to export the private keys to some wallet which give you access to actions like BCC.
Thete are plenty on internet but download only reputed ones.

You should give the link to the trusted wallet which are safe to use I'm using Trezor without any major issue. List of trusted wallets is also available on official website so anybody can move his private keys to any supported wallet.
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November 12, 2018, 06:48:17 PM
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Anyone remember this...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bq4ia/for_the_love_of_bitcoin_stop_mining_at_btc_guild/


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It doesn't matter if they're the good guys and say they won't abuse their power. If BTC Guild reaches +50% hashing power, they'll virtually control the network, be able to create forks, double spend or paralize Bitcoin.

My local banker also says he's a good guy and I shouldn't worry about him. But that's not the point because Bitcoin is supposed to be decentralized, not "centralized with a good guy in charge".

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The problem with Bitcoin (and I say this as a miner and advocate of it) is that eventually the network will converge on a small operating block of people, probably using large ASIC farms. It has to - it's how the incentive system works out. It's an arms race to the most powerful farm, and those with the most capital to invest will push everyone else out. At that point it is no longer "decentralized" but controlled by a few (single?) powerful entities - those who could control the compute power.
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