[ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees

[serby10101010001100010]

Please stop spamming bitcoin

You believe asking them nicely will make them stop?

T'es en chien devant les banquiers, t'appelles
Yes We Can, mais ferme ta gueule
Une fois qu'on ramasse, on prend ta part on garde tout



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR9OsMwqbTk

Please stop spamming bitcoin

[CoinChaos]

This is great competition for bitcoin finally. I think both bitcoin and bitcoin cash will do well. Competition is healthy, but go bitcoin cash. lol

[serby10101010001100010]

1) Bitstamp to offer BCH trading in 2 weeks

2) Coinbase/GDAX to offer BCH trading 1st of January 2018

3) BitPay at the fence to offer BCH

2018 will be awesome for Bitcoin Cash 

The Most Recent News on CEX.IO!

Today, we would like to inform you about some changes on our platform.
1. BCH Pairs on Margin Trading

Bitcoin Cash is winning its position among the cryptocurrencies.
And we are glad to introduce the opportunity to trade BCH/USD and BCH/BTC on margin.
The maximum leverage is 2.


╥Aztek

http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/11/18/bitcoin-cash-ecosystem-thrives-thanks-major-support-exchanges/

[serby10101010001100010]

http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/11/18/six-exchange-ag-offers-new-speculative-certificate-bitcoin-price-watchers/


Six Exchange AG Offers New Speculative Certificate for Bitcoin Price Watchers


New investment vehicles on Switzerland’s Six Exchange AG may provide the solution people have been asking for. It allows investors to profit if the Bitcoin price dips while limiting loss risk at the same time.

this does not look good for btc. https://btcmanager.com/cme-proposes-limits-bitcoins-volatility/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss CME Proposes Limits To Temper Bitcoin’s Volatility

The limit will advise investors as to whether or not they should trade with bitcoin at a particular time. The CME group will do this by implementing trade halts. These barriers will keep prices from fluctuating more than seven to thirteen percent and prevent bitcoin from trading beyond twenty percent. [....] CME’s chairman emeritus, Leo Melamed, who founded Financial Futures, explained that his group would “tame” bitcoin.

[Bitbobb]

[grasshpr]

Nice trees.

[IThoughtIKnewItAll]

Fact of the Matter is anyone that purchased Bitcoin Cash (The Real Bitcoin)
around $350 , has seen over a 3.5X increase in their profit

Where as at the same time bitcoin say around $5500 has not even doubled.

or in simpler terms
$5500 invested into Bitcoin Cash would have earned you $5500 *3.5 =$19250

$5500 invested into Segshitcoin would have earned you only $7784.77


Bitcoin Cash Profit : $13750

Segshitcoin Profit   : $ 2285

You ignorant assholes can keep segshitcoin forever,

Bitcoin Cash is where the profit is, No one here cares if you miss out.


╥Aztek

Fuck yea Craig, thanks very much! I hope to profit from this blatant scam real bitcoin just a little bit more!

[vanessa81]

Price is slowly moving down, hope I will get some BCH , yes you can make good profit with BCH but have to be smart and brave to risk.

[serby10101010001100010]

Fact of the Matter is anyone that purchased Bitcoin Cash (The Real Bitcoin)
around $350 , has seen over a 3.5X increase in their profit

Where as at the same time bitcoin say around $5500 has not even doubled.

or in simpler terms
$5500 invested into Bitcoin Cash would have earned you $5500 *3.5 =$19250

$5500 invested into Segshitcoin would have earned you only $7784.77


Bitcoin Cash Profit : $13750

Segshitcoin Profit   : $ 2285

You ignorant assholes can keep segshitcoin forever,

Bitcoin Cash is where the profit is, No one here cares if you miss out.


╥Aztek

Fuck yea Craig, thanks very much! I hope to profit from this blatant scam real bitcoin just a little bit more!

""The rich don't need Bitcoin. The poor do. I already can transfer millions instantly. The poor cannot even send their money slowly right now. It can be $40 for someone without a bank account in the Philippines to send remittance to their family when they earn a $100 a month. That is disgusting."

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7dv508/the_rich_dont_need_bitcoin_the_poor_do_i_already/

[Agro465]

Price is slowly moving down, hope I will get some BCH , yes you can make good profit with BCH but have to be smart and brave to risk.

the price has settled. will rise in the next few days.

[Agro465]

Fact of the Matter is anyone that purchased Bitcoin Cash (The Real Bitcoin)
around $350 , has seen over a 3.5X increase in their profit

Where as at the same time bitcoin say around $5500 has not even doubled.

or in simpler terms
$5500 invested into Bitcoin Cash would have earned you $5500 *3.5 =$19250

$5500 invested into Segshitcoin would have earned you only $7784.77


Bitcoin Cash Profit : $13750

Segshitcoin Profit   : $ 2285

You ignorant assholes can keep segshitcoin forever,

Bitcoin Cash is where the profit is, No one here cares if you miss out.


╥Aztek

Fuck yea Craig, thanks very much! I hope to profit from this blatant scam real bitcoin just a little bit more!

""The rich don't need Bitcoin. The poor do. I already can transfer millions instantly. The poor cannot even send their money slowly right now. It can be $40 for someone without a bank account in the Philippines to send remittance to their family when they earn a $100 a month. That is disgusting."

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7dv508/the_rich_dont_need_bitcoin_the_poor_do_i_already/

then probably bitcoin cash. Transver costs are too high for bitcoin

[anon1]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/BXZ4/trolls/image.png

[Bitbobb]

there you go helped you out

[ZhuldyzKaladinova]

The amount of people in this Thread that boast a Trust: -2: -1 / +0 Warning: Trade with extreme caution! is too high.

[serby10101010001100010]

The amount of people in this Thread that boast a Trust: -2: -1 / +0 Warning: Trade with extreme caution! is too high.

quite the contrary, my friend. As usual, you've got it all backwards.

That's what a real scammer boy looks like.

ironic comment at best, given that you wouldn't even fill his shoes....

[BtcVolcano]

Fun to watch the two coins is a tug of war. While he watched from the side, now such dancing fast, I think you need to wait better. On this you can both earn and lose a lot.

[#flippening]

The amount of people in this Thread that boast a Trust: -2: -1 / +0 Warning: Trade with extreme caution! is too high.

thats because, you and your shill accounts did it, along with some mods help.

Here tell me this, where are all the segshit legendary supporters?  why are they not commenting, instead they log in with shill accounts ....bunch of trolls...hahaha

[ZhuldyzKaladinova]

The game is over, the plot has been debunked.

Bit/Altcoin Cash was created by a gang with a very specific plan in mind.  It steals Bitcoin's name and brand in order to attack it, and is a direct result from the peculiar dream to 'kill BTC'...  

It is not a product of decentralized community.  It is not like Bitcoin at all.  Bitcoin is an open source project that started this entire cryptocurrency sphere.  Comparing it to gang-made centralized shitcoins like Bit/Altcoin Cash that merely copy and modify its code is laughable.  All those who've not been hopelessly brainwashed by propaganda will realize this at some point.


Short and to the point, BCH is wrong.

If one really believes in cryptocurrency one simply can not support Bit/Altcoin Cash because it doesn't make any sense other than for the pockets of the gang and their corporate alliances.  This is not Bitcoin's vision.  This is a perversion.


https://www.facebook.com/calvinayre/posts/10203345479835804
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20171113122001/https://www.facebook.com/calvinayre/posts/10203345479835804

Trust guys like the above?  Then you have no choice but to get burned.

Bitcoin will scale, adapt and evolve, as it has been doing for 8 years (...). It will also prove its resilience, again and again, attack after attack, as it just did last week-end. BCH was just a reckless and unwise attack, both financially and technically (...). There is only one Bitcoin, and it's called Bitcoin.

Pump and dump for quick profit  vs.  organic growth of a both technically and financially evolving Bitcoin over almost a decade.

Who in their right mind compare a copy of Bitcoin forked by a few dudes as part of a peculiar dream to 'kill BTC' for their own profit, with Bitcoin?

That's hardcore.

Plot debunked.  Altcoin Cash scammers exposed.  

[Waldozaur12]

Expensive BTC is a great deal for BCC pumping (and to reverse the capital). The high fee excludes the use of BTC in micropayments.

[tekmobile]

Nice Article:  http://bitcoinandtheblockchain.blogspot.ch/

Bithumb servers went offline for several hours

On the 11 of November there was a 100% price movement in BCH from $863 to $1622 and a sell off of BTC from $7198 to $6491.
This resulted in a "Black Swan" event driving the price of BCH to a high of $2863 and BTC to a low of $5402 at 6.00 am on 12 November (Bitfinex).

For yet unexplained reasons when BCH price peaked at 6.00 am, Bithumb  servers crashed.
This took out most of the demand out of the market and sell pressure from the remaining exchanges was able to bring the price of BCH down to around $1400 by 10.00 am. All this while Bithumb was off-line.

This massive increase in mining profitability on BCH caused miners to switch and the hash rates on the two chain crossed (X).
Had this carried on the BTC chain would have succumb to the Chain Death Spiral as the hash rate between the two chains did flip (F).

My guess on what happened.

I believe nobody was prepared for this. It was a "Black Swan" event.
Bitcoin markets are unregulated and there are no trip mechanism built in.
More than likely the major players realized what a disaster this would be if the Bitcoin market crashed and maybe even go to zero as the hash rate was rapidly exiting the BTC chain.

The decision must have been to "turn off" Bithumb servers to kill the demand.
At the same time they borrowed BCH on margins to sell BCH down.
Those who bought at peak on Bithumb and were unable to liquidate lost big time.
Many would have been bankrupted.
Still facing limited number of lawsuits is better than having the whole BTC market collapse with total wealth transfer from BTC to BCH.

So we now have a trip mechanism in the crypto markets. We turn servers off. May this be a warning to all those who trade in this market.

BTC Recovery

Over the next few days the price of BTC recovered and as of today 15 November is over $7100.
Here is the problem.
How can anybody put money into a coin that has a non existential possibility of going to zero
because it does not have the protection of an Emergency Difficulty Adjuster (EDA) like in BCH.

On top of that it is practically useless because of extremely high fees and long confirmation times.
I sent some BTC over 10 days ago with 0.0002 BTC in fees and that transaction is still in limbo.
I tried to send $500 out of my Blockchain.info wallet with priority fees and the fees was calculated at over $200.
This coin has turned out to be a joke so why does anybody want to support it?

Of course there are 120 billion reasons that it must be supported. And think of all the people who bought into BTC since 1 August.
What can we tell these people if BTC went to zero and BCH became the new Bitcoin.
Something has to be done. If the problem is bad at $7000 how much worse at $10,000 or $100,000 per coin.

It is very simple.
The coin without EDA (BTC) cannot share the same POW algorithm as one with EDA (BCH) and expect to survive without intervention.
Another "Black Swan" event is just around the corner.
If we want to protect innocent people who have purchased BTC since 1 August we have to hard fork EDA into BTC.
This way both coins can compete for mining hash power on their respective merits.

╥Aztek

Small problem the EDA was the only reason BCH could steal the hashing power but now since its been removed it is no longer possible because if the value rises and miners try to jump for quick profit the new DAA wipes this profit out fast and the miners just go back.

I have noticed since the new DAA adjust BCH is spending less time being profitable because the times it does become more profitable and the hashing jumps over the DAA changes it fast

Right now for BCH to be able to steal half the hashing power BCH would need to reach $4000 before with the EDA it could do it with a mere $1000