[ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees

[Azazel333]

So BCH is really heading towards $2000. I would not have thought that this would be possible in such a short time. But as I never touched my bch that I got from the fork, Im pretty okay with this outcome. What do you think, next week breaking the 2k barrier?

I think next week will break 2k pretty easily as long as btc does not go well over 10,000. Since I'm mostly holding bcc now I hope bitcoin has a bit of a crash soon. I'm very confused as to what will happen though all these new bitcoin forks are certainly making things even weirder than it already is.

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[simrac]

The bitcoin price will break $10000 very soon , i hope bitcoin cash price can rising up again ,come back to $2000 , but i think next year investors will come back and we have new record new price.

[no-ice-please]

this is bitcoin trash! it will cost you your cash!

dont support this bs guys. if you buy into this you are fighting against bitcoin. we are all here for 2 things. holding cryptos and making money!

dont buy this. if it gos to 2k again dont care about that you can miss 1 pump just let it go!  sell your bitcointrash and never buy this again!

own the real bitcoin. dont own trash that could dump to $100 in 5 min. 
everyone that loves crypto love bitcoin go think about it!  if you buy this or holding this you supporting attacks on bitcoin. dont be greedy you can miss 1 pump we have enough other coins that pump.

be a man stand upp! say no to trashcoin!

It's hard to say no to such epic pumps though. As much as I hate BCH and everyone supporting it, I did enjoy riding the bull all the way up to 0.5 and even more when I shorted it all the way down to 0.14. But yeah this fork is not doing anyone any favors other than day traders.

So you hit the nail on the head in both directions? Exited before the flash crash at 0.5 and shorted down till 0.14? Maybe you can lend me your crystal ball for a few days, thanks!

Me and dozens of other people, it was so obvious.

So no crystal ball involved to exactly hit the ATH and the daily low? From trader to trader: you got my deepest respect!

LOL. That is not easy. Especially the 0.5 part.
It is hard to hold until that price to dump if you have always been ready to dump.

We both agree that he is a bullshitter, don't we?

[Bitbobb]

[AAAnditsgone]

i will dump by BCC for real Bitcoin (BTC) after the split.. It will be dumped to zero. Just wait & watch..

A fool, like you, and his real Bitcoins are soon parted.

we will see who the fool is. Just wait for the split.

You really think this is going to work or be real bitcoin without any support from users or Miners. if yes, than you are the fool here..

The fool never thinks he's the fool

[AAAnditsgone]

I have so many questions about bch. Been an ignorant investor for too long. If anyone can direct me to relevant technical literature..

My Q's:

Has anyone ever estimated how big full nodes could theoretically get?
Why would miners mine bch if the fees are super low?

[jianxinss]

I did not think about BCH as an alternative to BTC. I just thought it could bring wealth, but it seems that many people think BCH is the real BTC. I do not understand why? Is it because of its technical value better than BTC?

[tiCeR]

how is a block size change and a different adjustment algo superior code? its the same code. i think you mean to say same code but superior parameter change ov course in your opinion else you are stating it as fact when of course you arent the authority to state such as truth

Superior Performance and Superior Protection from a death spiral =  Superior CODE !

I state Logic , when if you can reason logically , you see it as factual and truthful because you can see it also.


╥Aztek


By the way the addition of segshit into core coin , with its anyone can send address, is definitely INFERIOR to the original design.

 

incorrect. you stated superior code this is a statement made of fact.

saying the current difficulty adjustment algo allows x which i believe means y. this is a statement of logic without making it sound like you state fact.

you should start prefacing you comments with i believe. without that you are indeed stating it as fact when its not. its not someone taking it as factual. if you structure your sentences as stating fact then thats what it is. its not others taking it the wrong way. if you think that to be the case then you are indeed saying how the english language functions in sentences and use is wrong. this isnt the case at all.

I doubt it's even worth discussing with Aztek. Anyone who fails to understand that on-chain scalability solutions are short-term and no real improvement to the code is completely blind. I'd like to point to Antonopoulos here who correctly says that any solution improving scalability linearly is no solution to crypto's real problems. We need exponential scalability and increasing the block size is no such solution.

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how is a block size change and a different adjustment algo superior code? its the same code. i think you mean to say same code but superior parameter change ov course in your opinion else you are stating it as fact when of course you arent the authority to state such as truth

Superior Performance and Superior Protection from a death spiral =  Superior CODE !

I state Logic , when if you can reason logically , you see it as factual and truthful because you can see it also.


╥Aztek


By the way the addition of segshit into core coin , with its anyone can send address, is definitely INFERIOR to the original design.

 

incorrect. you stated superior code this is a statement made of fact.

saying the current difficulty adjustment algo allows x which i believe means y. this is a statement of logic without making it sound like you state fact.

you should start prefacing you comments with i believe. without that you are indeed stating it as fact when its not. its not someone taking it as factual. if you structure your sentences as stating fact then thats what it is. its not others taking it the wrong way. if you think that to be the case then you are indeed saying how the english language functions in sentences and use is wrong. this isnt the case at all.

I doubt it's even worth discussing with Aztek. Anyone who fails to understand that on-chain scalability solutions are short-term and no real improvement to the code is completely blind. I'd like to point to Antonopoulos here who correctly says that any solution improving scalability linearly is no solution to crypto's real problems. We need exponential scalability and increasing the block size is no such solution.

So you literally say Bill Gates was right: stay on 640K - or eMail you prefer to stay at max 1MB ?

This is exactly a 'restricted view by day = today" - this is not Bitcoin's idea.

Bitcoin is open to all scaling - it's an open system to all competitive solutions and such simply cannot include any limitations.

Limitations come into by physical and economical boundaries by default - and scaling boundaries  cannot be  part of any base protocol.

So relax and watch what dimensions of scaling are out there....
 

[jbreher]

We need exponential scalability and increasing the block size is no such solution.

Nonsense. Do not confuse a sigmoid curve with an exponential curve. The sigmoid looks like exponential, until the inflection point. But then it slows. After all, once the entire world is using Bitcoin, there are no more people to newly adopt. (duh)

[Anonymous Kid]

Why did you post this? I am curious.

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Why did you post this? I am curious.

I come from physics - it's from this . It shows energetic minima where states will automatically settle into / or need external energy to get over the hills.

I'd say you can  use this schema  to explain e.g. auto-find out the correct / stable block-size by external forces / boundaries - this works much better than invent artificial constraints (hacked into code / base protocols and make these unnecessarily complicated -> killing / slowing down other teams to build clients on top).

[serby10101010001100010]

looks very similar to this http://d.stockcharts.com/school/data/media/chart_school/market_analysis/wyckoff3/wyckoffpricecycle.png

in todays market it should come as no surprise that "Mr. Wyckoff saw retail investors getting fleeced repeatedly", since btc has taken the game to another level, it's just wholesale fraud.

[bitcoinPsycho]

is bch still trying to kill btc? someone here please tell me when the flipping will occur because I'm not convinced it will happen. btc looks stronger than ever

[tangtang800]

I did not think about BCH as an alternative to BTC. I just thought it could bring wealth, but it seems that many people think BCH is the real BTC. I do not understand why? Is it because of its technical value better than BTC?

BCH technology is indeed better than BTC, and later SBTC technology is more powerful, is simply BCH+ intelligent contract + lightning network. But BTC is famous and has a long history. The position of the leading role is not so easy to replace.

[serby10101010001100010]

is bch still trying to kill btc? someone here please tell me when the flipping will occur because I'm not convinced it will happen. btc looks stronger than ever

what a come back, narvalo ^^

[tendy263]

BTC is the real deal , all other coins will just follow the trends set by BTC

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I did not think about BCH as an alternative to BTC. I just thought it could bring wealth, but it seems that many people think BCH is the real BTC. I do not understand why? Is it because of its technical value better than BTC?

BCH technology is indeed better than BTC, and later SBTC technology is more powerful, is simply BCH+ intelligent contract + lightning network. But BTC is famous and has a long history. The position of the leading role is not so easy to replace.

Old BTC has still very strong price momentum / upside trend and fresh money still buys BTC (crypto)  at first place. It is the hartest task of trading to predict the point when this tops and rolls over into a side phase or a down trend even.

Once this comes it will be most interesting what will happen - will investors try to really use BTC (high fees and no extra capacity might prove this very shitty)  ? Will they exit crypto ? Or will they move into BCH that should have lots of merchants in place for real usage?

Time will tell....

[garytheasshole]

I did not think about BCH as an alternative to BTC. I just thought it could bring wealth, but it seems that many people think BCH is the real BTC. I do not understand why? Is it because of its technical value better than BTC?

BCH technology is indeed better than BTC, and later SBTC technology is more powerful, is simply BCH+ intelligent contract + lightning network. But BTC is famous and has a long history. The position of the leading role is not so easy to replace.

Old BTC has still very strong price momentum / upside trend and fresh money still buys BTC (crypto)  at first place. It is the hartest task of trading to predict the point when this tops and rolls over into a side phase or a down trend even.

Once this comes it will be most interesting what will happen - will investors try to really use BTC (high fees and no extra capacity might prove this very shitty)  ? Will they exit crypto ? Or will they move into BCH that should have lots of merchants in place for real usage?

Time will tell....

Most "investors" aka speculators are interested in more FIAT, not crypto.

[ghuang168]

my friends tell my bch will list on the biggest exchange next month . it that true?