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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 703566 times)
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November 16, 2018, 08:33:28 PM
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and now black heart Satoshi will destroy us all. Thanks.

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The network tries to produce one block per 10 minutes. It does this by automatically adjusting how difficult it is to produce blocks.
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November 16, 2018, 08:47:17 PM
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Is there an interview with Roger Vera about the fork? and the fate of Bitcoin Cash? Why say he died? Undecided
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November 16, 2018, 11:11:46 PM
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BITCOIN SV= P2P ELECTRONIC CASH FOR THE WORLD

BITCOIN ABC= P2P ELECTRONIC GARBAGE POS WITH 1000000 SHITCOINS

Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system for the world. BTC tips are greatly appreciated 35BqJwcycsLDoPrBxmxuh1e4MY7bcDPvGW
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November 16, 2018, 11:17:38 PM
Last edit: November 16, 2018, 11:43:08 PM by Zin-Zang
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Guys sv just died, no split, no sv coin..no hash

Boy, when you state falsehoods, you go all-in, don't you? Every last one of your 'no' statements above is disproven by the most cursory glance at Coin Dance.
lol i state falsehoods , do you say the same to your faketoshi?



oh and btw, sv coin is dead....no one with any sense would want to buy ,use or support that shit.

Still Trading:
(BCHSV)  $116.65 USD
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash-sv/#markets

Bitcoin Cash ABC   $248.32 USD
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash-abc/#markets

https://forkmonitor.info/nodes/bch
Last ABC Block => Height: 556974 (2018-11-16 18:26)
Last SV   Block=>  Height: 556961 (2018-11-16 18:21)

Both still kicking from the looks of it.  Smiley

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Looks like the old cash explorers are all pointing to ABC chain.
SV needs a block explorer if anyone is supposed to take them seriously.

I was Red Tagged because Lauda Blows Theymos to get back on DT
The rest are just lauda's personal butt monkeys=> Hhampuz , Vod, TMAN , achow101
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November 17, 2018, 12:14:19 AM
Last edit: November 17, 2018, 12:45:06 AM by Mrpumperitis
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Guys sv just died, no split, no sv coin..no hash

Boy, when you state falsehoods, you go all-in, don't you? Every last one of your 'no' statements above is disproven by the most cursory glance at Coin Dance.
lol i state falsehoods , do you say the same to your faketoshi?



oh and btw, sv coin is dead....no one with any sense would want to buy ,use or support that shit.

Still Trading:
(BCHSV)  $116.65 USD
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash-sv/#markets

Bitcoin Cash ABC   $248.32 USD
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash-abc/#markets

https://forkmonitor.info/nodes/bch
Last ABC Block => Height: 556974 (2018-11-16 18:26)
Last SV   Block=>  Height: 556961 (2018-11-16 18:21)

Both still kicking from the looks of it.  Smiley

* Some coins specific block explorers are needed however. *

Looks like the old cash explorers are all pointing to ABC chain.
SV needs a block explorer if anyone is supposed to take them seriously.
No sv block explorer ....no sv..simples  Wink

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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November 17, 2018, 12:56:53 AM
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It seems to me that many in the crypto space could benefit from learning how important scaleability is. I'll keep it as short and sweet as i can. The foundation of the bitcoin network are the miners, miners keep the chain secure while processing transactions and adding blocks to the chain. Miners have skin in the game, if there is no profitability, they dont mine. No miners means no chain security, or transaction processing, miners need profitability to keep bitcoin alive. When the next halving hits, it is a 50% cut on their profits, in order to make up for this there needs to be double the amount of transactions coming in so that miners can continue staying in profit from large quantities of low fees. Why low fees you ask? Because no one is going to pay an absurd amount of a fee to send coin from one place to the other, the best solution is to grow the number of transactions with different rates of fees, this opens the range of profitability for miners. IF BITCOIN DOES NOT SCALE, and TRANSACTION VOLUME DOES NOT INCREASE BY AT LEAST 2X BEFORE THE NEXT HALVING, IT IS GAME OVER FOR BITCOIN. Why? Because the miners will be out of business, no miners=no bitcoin. BTC segwit can no longer scale and we will see that in the coming years, BCH can scale, but not if idiots like ABC get to do whatever the hell they want to the protocol, which btw right now their goal is to implement WHC/plasma, and hundreds of shitcoins.

Did I get that right?

when i look at this situation i believe craig is right and why he is protecting the bitcoin core original hell will break lose for bitcoin and if sv is the answer it will take over
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November 17, 2018, 01:21:28 AM
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Bch abc has generally been dropping about everyday except yesterday Sad.  And bch sv has been one of the most wreckless volatile thing dropping 50% on day 2 then 2 days later it is 4x higher then drops 60% the next day and then goes up about 40%.  I am not sure, is this some kind of game to see which team can mine the most coins
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November 17, 2018, 01:34:48 AM
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Bch abc has generally been dropping about everyday except yesterday Sad.  And bch sv has been one of the most wreckless volatile thing dropping 50% on day 2 then 2 days later it is 4x higher then drops 60% the next day and then goes up about 40%.  I am not sure, is this some kind of game to see which team can mine the most coins

i still holding bitcoin cash original , bch sv or bch abc price is cheap and  they have been listed on some exchange

BCH $387,18 USD (-8,10%) 0,06966827 BTC (-7,14%)
Bitcoin Cash SV [IOU] (BCHSV) $129,41 USD (40,96%) 0,02328643 BTC (42,43%)
Bitcoin Cash ABC [IOU] (BCHABC) $257,42 USD (-12,87%) 0,04631873 BTC (-11,96%)
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November 17, 2018, 01:43:40 AM
Last edit: November 17, 2018, 02:18:54 AM by boomboom
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Is any exchange trading Bstash yet?

https://bstash.org/
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November 17, 2018, 01:58:52 AM
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No sv block explorer ....no sv.

That's not the way it works.

Anyone with a campaign ad in their signature -- for an organization with which they are not otherwise affiliated -- is automatically deducted credibility points.

I've been convicted of heresy. Convicted by a mere known extortionist. Read my Trust for details.
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November 17, 2018, 02:15:43 AM
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No sv block explorer ....no sv.

That's not the way it works.
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No sv community...no sv  Wink
 

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November 17, 2018, 04:20:44 AM
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Your fork is currently 40 blocks behind ABC. Doesn't matter how you were defeated, fact is, you were defeated. The polite thing to do would be to throw in the towel and admit defeat. Though I'm certain this is an impossibility for you.

You must be new to blockchains, let me simplify it for you. The hash war is not over until one side quits, the longest chain wins buddy. Just because ABC got a burst of hashrate from roger switching his btc mining pool to bch, doesnt mean they will sustain that hash rate in the long run. It cost him a fuck load of money to do that

You seem to be even newer to blockchains. The "hash war" IS over. There are now 2 non-compatible chains that will be in existence for as long as people keep mining on them. The war is over because ABC won the the support of the community and the industry. You really think people are going to actually use SV for anything other than to flex their ego at this point? Especially after CSW's temper tantrums and demonstrations of lunacy? If so, you're clearly delusional. People were already barely using BCH; this latest stunt just insured the further irrelevance of both sides.
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November 17, 2018, 05:58:48 AM
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Does anyone have accurate information when we can start trading it on Bittrex. I have balance but Coin does not appears when you type BCC in search box. I presume first lucky man will sell it 1/1.This could be really something. Can someone give us comparison BTC/BCC hashrate?
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November 17, 2018, 06:34:17 AM
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It seems to me that many in the crypto space could benefit from learning how important scaleability is. I'll keep it as short and sweet as i can. The foundation of the bitcoin network are the miners, miners keep the chain secure while processing transactions and adding blocks to the chain. Miners have skin in the game, if there is no profitability, they dont mine. No miners means no chain security, or transaction processing, miners need profitability to keep bitcoin alive. When the next halving hits, it is a 50% cut on their profits, in order to make up for this there needs to be double the amount of transactions coming in so that miners can continue staying in profit from large quantities of low fees. Why low fees you ask? Because no one is going to pay an absurd amount of a fee to send coin from one place to the other, the best solution is to grow the number of transactions with different rates of fees, this opens the range of profitability for miners. IF BITCOIN DOES NOT SCALE, and TRANSACTION VOLUME DOES NOT INCREASE BY AT LEAST 2X BEFORE THE NEXT HALVING, IT IS GAME OVER FOR BITCOIN. Why? Because the miners will be out of business, no miners=no bitcoin. BTC segwit can no longer scale and we will see that in the coming years, BCH can scale, but not if idiots like ABC get to do whatever the hell they want to the protocol, which btw right now their goal is to implement WHC/plasma, and hundreds of shitcoins.

Did I get that right?

No, you didn't. 

You left out the fact that the price also naturally rises to make the block reward profitable.  We've already seen that happen twice as block rewards have halved.
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November 17, 2018, 06:42:43 AM
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Bch abc has generally been dropping about everyday except yesterday Sad.  And bch sv has been one of the most wreckless volatile thing dropping 50% on day 2 then 2 days later it is 4x higher then drops 60% the next day and then goes up about 40%.  I am not sure, is this some kind of game to see which team can mine the most coins
And these two coins clash with each other in Tweeter.
I don't know why this coin is so good and it is the choice of many others.

If there are often conflicts, why should we choose the coin?
Is it safe for traders?  Huh Huh Huh
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November 17, 2018, 07:05:44 AM
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Is any exchange trading Bstash yet?

https://bstash.org/


wtf, bstash is a BCH fork with replay protection & merged mining .... why aren't the masses of undecided jumping on bstash ?
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November 17, 2018, 07:43:27 AM
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If you still have sv, get out of asap

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9xswvm/bchsv_now_has_over_50_network_hashrate/
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The public SV chain vs the public ABC chain has nothing to do with checkpoints. The SV chain is incompatible with ABC rules and no matter how much work they have their chain won't be valid for ABC nodes. Checkpoints only matter if there is a hidden chain building a reorg attack against the ABC chain.

If SV is ahead of ABC by 10 blocks it affects nothing. For one, cumulative work matters not block height and secondly even if SV was close to overtaking ABC by work (and they're not close at all) it wouldn't matter to ABC clients because they don't see that chain as valid. Same reason they don't follow the BTC chain.



Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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November 17, 2018, 07:44:34 AM
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There is NO sv coin...

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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November 17, 2018, 07:55:53 AM
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There is NO sv coin...There is no BCH coin.. these Jackass's have forked themselves up their own backsides.. anybody who held BCH through this debacle is regretting it..
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November 17, 2018, 08:17:19 AM
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Is any exchange trading Bstash yet?

https://bstash.org/


wtf, bstash is a BCH fork with replay protection & merged mining .... why aren't the masses of undecided jumping on bstash ?

Looks like Bstash is the best of ABC & SV, back to the Bitcoin whitepaper but without wormhole tokens, and community based without billionaires (on both sides) telling everyone what to do.

I would prefer using komodo delayed proof of work, dPoW , over merged mining though, dPoW periodically notarizes to bitcoin, so after about 20 blocks the notarized blockchain ends up effectively having bitcoin level PoW securing it. If only ABC devs read more widely they could have added dPoW to their chain for about 500 USD per year, and avoided 'checkpoints'

Bstash could do ok, need to know more about the devs, what skill level, and how committed.
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