Next week, is that the last chance?

[zarados]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

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[cpfreeplz]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

[NavySeals]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

When the subject is crypto currencies, here bitcoin, I never be 100% sure for anything. You're much more experinced than me and you alredy know this. However, I agree with you about last $2000 was the best time to buy last week.

[cpfreeplz]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

When the subject is crypto currencies, here bitcoin, I never be 100% sure for anything. You're much more experinced than me and you alredy know this. However, I agree with you about last $2000 was the best time to buy last week.

Lol when bitcoins dropped under 1k it was the end of the world. Then we hit a new ATH, then the price just kept going up and up. There is way more volume than there has ever been and way more people use bitcoin. There's just no chance of us going to those prices again, and 2k is dirt cheap so I'm never expecting it again. Could it happen? Sure. If it does I'll be buying the dip.

[klf]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

I don't think we say so confidently that Bitcoin prices never go back to 2000 range. Because this is a crypto world and it is very dynamic so anything can happen. But as per my opinion don't wait for any specific price to invest because if you wait for it then I worry you may get a chance to invest or not. So start buying small amounts from now and in next couple of years, you will make a decent profit from this investment.

[lottery248]

nope, IMO that kind of split is not that major and not going to affect bitcoin network a lot, unless that is major one, price of bitcoin is not going down hard (the recent drop gone repaired AFAIK). perhaps the price of bitcoin is not going terrifying on 1st August, take care of that.

[sobsitesearch]

nope, IMO that kind of split is not that major and not going to affect bitcoin network a lot, unless that is major one, price of bitcoin is not going down hard (the recent drop gone repaired AFAIK). perhaps the price of bitcoin is not going terrifying on 1st August, take care of that.

All of that is what we are wishing for, even they split we want to stay bitcoin what is it specially in value instead we are wishing also for the more increase of its value to make our investment will generate much higher income for long term.

[lottery248]

nope, IMO that kind of split is not that major and not going to affect bitcoin network a lot, unless that is major one, price of bitcoin is not going down hard (the recent drop gone repaired AFAIK). perhaps the price of bitcoin is not going terrifying on 1st August, take care of that.

All of that is what we are wishing for, even they split we want to stay bitcoin what is it specially in value instead we are wishing also for the more increase of its value to make our investment will generate much higher income for long term.

that split in regard of economic of bitcoin, is a lie for those people who wanna buy more bitcoins, that illegitimate terror hyper is wanting to lose all the investors' trust and then the liar buys all of them to be the monopoly IIRC. if you don't trust that is nothing happened

[Rahar02]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

For people who don't desperate for money to cover their expenses > sell bitcoin isn't an option. Better to keep it as long term investment obviously, in case in the future there are more merchants/retailers accept bitcoin payment, so we can spend bitcoin directly to purchase some good stuffs, even to buy a car.

We're facing on BIP148 activation on August 1st, but I guess miners won't take the risk of chain split, so they seems keep signaling for BIP91 on bit 1 using BTC1 software (v1.14.4).
But, I don't think bitcoin will ever fall down below $1500 again, moreover less than $1000, seems impossible for now unless there are some huge exchanges get hack, that's for damn sure.

[keithers]

I think I saw somewhere in the $1800s in the middle of the night when I got up to go to the bathroom the other night.   ETH was at around $130 too.   That was your best chance at buying on a dip unless something does go terribly wrong August 1st.   I think $2000 is going to be the floor for awhile.   I am hoping that we can make $3000 the new floor if everything transitions over smoothly.

[pooya87]

have you not been paying attention in the past 10 days? apparently not. so i suggest you don't plan on "buying in the dips" ever again because you missed one of the biggest dips of our times! price was $1000 lower than current value about 6 days ago, if you wanted to buy you should have bought then.

[New2coin]

The time to make money quick has passed on bitcoin. Anyone that wants to make large amounts of profit on bitcoin legally will have to invest and wait. The market will level out and go stale in my opinion.

[Pearls Before Swine]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

When the subject is crypto currencies, here bitcoin, I never be 100% sure for anything. You're much more experinced than me and you alredy know this. However, I agree with you about last $2000 was the best time to buy last week.

Sheee-oot, I can't even be 20% sure of anything in the wild world of crypto.  If the OP here is asking what he should do...how about stop trading and just hold?  I get a feeling that after we stall at $2800 (currently in progress), we're headed for at least $3000.  So dump all that wack stuff that isn't bitcoin, buy bitcoin, and hold it until you're in the black.  Pretty damn simple plan, and it's worked for at least hundreds of people.

[error08]

have you not been paying attention in the past 10 days? apparently not. so i suggest you don't plan on "buying in the dips" ever again because you missed one of the biggest dips of our times! price was $1000 lower than current value about 6 days ago, if you wanted to buy you should have bought then.

I remember that day, when bitcoin drop hard to $1800 and already recover $2817 right now, indeed its increase as much $1000.
But, Op maybe right for people who still waiting for another dip, last week was the last chance. Next week is another set point, whether bitcoin price will drop or continue to rise. I think bitcoin price may drop a bit, but not even touch-below $2400 again due to miners have been supporting BIP91 which is lead us to segwit2x.

[cjmoles]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

When the subject is crypto currencies, here bitcoin, I never be 100% sure for anything. You're much more experinced than me and you alredy know this. However, I agree with you about last $2000 was the best time to buy last week.

Sheee-oot, I can't even be 20% sure of anything in the wild world of crypto.  If the OP here is asking what he should do...how about stop trading and just hold?  I get a feeling that after we stall at $2800 (currently in progress), we're headed for at least $3000.  So dump all that wack stuff that isn't bitcoin, buy bitcoin, and hold it until you're in the black.  Pretty damn simple plan, and it's worked for at least hundreds of people.

Don't listen to any single line of reasoning!  Do your own, in depth, research and don't trade while you're under the influence of emotion....fear of missing out (FOMO) can get you rekt!  When in doubt, HODL!  Don't make a major move unless you have inside information ---> Don't underestimate the value of the altcoins ---> slack groups ---> social media campaigns.  There's money to be made in this space by those who are paying attention!

[bandish]

I think there will be a bigger dip around November 2017 or so just before the segwit2x implementation. Everything is speculative here. Infact, there will be major dips whenever a big software development is slated to go live. So dont worry, there will be enough number of chances to buy. But definitely nothing below $1500 now. Below $2000?, may be yes.

[Wind_FURY]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

I will wait until the end of August before making any comments or thinking that we are out of the woods. I do not trust the miners at all to be honest. Let us leave it at that and wait for Segwit to activate, then we talk about good entry points.

[zarados]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

When the subject is crypto currencies, here bitcoin, I never be 100% sure for anything. You're much more experinced than me and you alredy know this.

Don't listen to any single line of reasoning!  Do your own, in depth, research and don't trade while you're under the influence of emotion....fear of missing out (FOMO) can get you rekt!  When in doubt, HODL!  Don't make a major move unless you have inside information ---> Don't underestimate the value of the altcoins ---> slack groups ---> social media campaigns.  There's money to be made in this space by those who are paying attention!

I agree with you not to trade when there is influence and emotion, because if we do it, will be a long regret if we choose wrong, it is different when we make our own decisions, even if wrong, we can still accept it. But in this case I just want to see how other people see the market today. That way we are perfecting our way of seeing the market. The decisions remain in my own hands and in my own way, without any influence from others.

[tinhyeumaunang]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

You decide to sell it because you think it is beneficial? If the price drops I will buy, not sell it.This makes many people anxious is that there should sell or keep them to have a big profit.

[machinek20]

I think there is still chance to make profit, some people still not sure about bitcoin future, but since the announcement that there will be no forking, the price has slowly recover, I think it will be a good chance to buy and hold, the price will slowly going up after August

[Daydream 61]

Everything just speculation.we must wait and watch the market. And be there when it starts
It will not be easy

[crazyivan]

I actually expect alts to start soaring even more then BTC. Much wider choice and much easier to buy. Pls people expect lots of them to repeat what BTC did in terms or price.

BTC will continue incrasing in price but it s much more profitable to have $1 to grow 100% in price then $3000 BTC to grow 100% in price.

[cjmoles]

I actually expect alts to start soaring even more then BTC. Much wider choice and much easier to buy. Pls people expect lots of them to repeat what BTC did in terms or price.

BTC will continue incrasing in price but it s much more profitable to have $1 to grow 100% in price then $3000 BTC to grow 100% in price.

^^^^^That's the beautiful thing about altcoin investments.  It's even easier for a 01 cent alt to grow to 10 cents....1000%  In fact, it's not uncommon to see cheap alts return profits 10x to 100x.....In terms of bitcoin, a 10x profit would be $30,000/BTC and 100x profit would be $300,000/BTC.....not likely to happen in the near future.

[iamTom123]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

It would take another big problem for Bitcoin for its value to go down that level, for sure. Of course, if there would be a global catastrophe that can affect the global economy then possibly Bitcoin could also go down. When people panicked and sold their stash of Bitcoin due to fear of what can be, the value of Bitcoin dropped drastically and that even prompted many analysts to conclude that maybe the Bitcoin bubble has already popped.

When things get cleared that there might be no more split, the market suddenly rose and got back to its feet again. Now, it is already at $2,800 and can even breach the $3,000 level soon. Now, am wondering where are those naysayers for Bitcoin? They must be eating their own words.

The best thing to do for now is HODL your capital!

[noictib]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

Absolutely the price will go down again , because here we have the reason to say such type of things .
Just go in past and remember why the price was gone down , exactly the lake of the  information in the Bitcoiners , but after that get increase that was due to get of better information .
So such types of things usually generate the problem to get crash sudden , now here we are going toward 1 August and I don't think that everyone will feel safe ( since nothing to worry if we have followed the precautions that the official announcement of this forum said us ) , but still many people will get into fear and will sell their Bitcoin and that will be results into down in the price of the btc .
So I think here also we have better chance to buy Bitcoin before 30july because price will go down and down due to only fear , and I think that will be better moment for us who want make lot of profit .

[romero121]

These days lots of people have been switching to altcoins. Just because of the upcoming segwit its been instructed to keep hold of the bitcoins in a much secure manner. Based on the same people have moved their holdings towards altcoins and some of them has cashed out their holdings. I have been holding my bitcoins without investing into other digital assets, because I believe that nothing worse happen after these days.

[hatshepsut93]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

If we assume that people are really scared of chain splits and even rumors of it can cause significant price crashes, than it's probably better to sell now and wait for another "discount day", because the situation hasn't been resolved yet, SegWit is not activated, Jihan is planning something for his Bitcoin Cash, and of course there's a planned 2x fork from New York agreement. But Bitcoin is also a honey badger, so maybe it will just keep growing to new ATH in next few months, or will stay at $2600-2800 level for some period.

[mk4]

Not sure about this. People were expecting a crash too this weekend, hoping that it will be like last weekend. But it didn't crash. I honestly don't see why it would crash next weekend, but let's see. I'm also hoping. Didn't buy enough lastweek.

[Question123]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

Thats right if bitcoin price see under 2000 dollars its better to buy because you can make a lot of profit for sure dont be panic . Hold your bitcoin and for sure after fee months of holding possible that your money become double or triple . More bitcoin that you have more money to come. Dont panic. We need unity . Hold your bitcoin to make a lot of profit if you seell your bitcoin you lose the opportunity .

[TastyChillySauce00]

There's no "last chance". The chance will always be there and depends on you of how you'll react to it, there's no guarantee that downtrend will ends within next week or the uptrend will occur either.
But, the segwit is almost there carrying solution to bitcoin's malleability problem. Guess what, the price will significantly increase, and after that, it's up to you to decide.

[Hui8]

In my personal opinion you should not make any moment at this point because the buying time has now passed and the selling time is not the one you are thinking. You will have to believe in bitcoin because there are 80-20 chances currently that bitcoin segwit2x will get the full support. Regarding the profits you earn it in any way because bitcoin always finds a black hole and pass through to rise in price. :-)

[megynacuna]

In my personal opinion you should not make any moment at this point because the buying time has now passed and the selling time is not the one you are thinking. You will have to believe in bitcoin because there are 80-20 chances currently that bitcoin segwit2x will get the full support. Regarding the profits you earn it in any way because bitcoin always finds a black hole and pass through to rise in price. :-)

I absolutely agree with you, it's just about time we all wait patiently and observe the occurrences so that we can make informed decisions about the way forward after August 1. Any move at the moment, right or wrong could make you loose out or be a winner. So I'd rather stay calm and wait.

[zarados]

I think there is still chance to make profit, some people still not sure about bitcoin future, but since the announcement that there will be no forking, the price has slowly recover, I think it will be a good chance to buy and hold, the price will slowly going up after August

We se it now,  the price is climb up, is this a beginning for what most of people hope. The rise of bitcoin after august 1. But there still three more days , and everything could happen, in this moment people are wondering, whats best to do with their investment on bitcoin.

[Ewox]

Last chance of what? If you had been keeping track of bitcoin ever since it started, you can tell how strong willed bitcoin is and if it falls down it always climbs back so I don't think this is the last chance even if SegWit will be activated or even if bitcoin is splitting. But we will never know also not until August 1 will pass, so we'll wait for just a few more days until August 1 and be prepared.

[olubams]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

There will always be opportunity for anyone who is ready to come into crypto and for the fact that we have a crash due to the upcoming hardfork, does not mean that there wont be any issue that would cause any fall in price in the future. It will always happen and that is the way of bitcoin until where there is massive adoption where the changes is not really much, there will still be a situation of downwards that will create an opportunity for entry in other to make much profit.

[iqlimasyadiqa]

Last chance of what? If you had been keeping track of bitcoin ever since it started, you can tell how strong willed bitcoin is and if it falls down it always climbs back so I don't think this is the last chance even if SegWit will be activated or even if bitcoin is splitting. But we will never know also not until August 1 will pass, so we'll wait for just a few more days until August 1 and be prepared.

Bitcoin will still have a good price, but declines and increases may occur. We all here have indeed experienced various things that happen to bitcoin. But avoid risk much better than we just always hope to get the best. This is the last week before the occurrence of segwit, there is still time to think about the best path we will take.

[ActiveP]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

Interesting perspective, but it cannot be true that this week is the last chance to get a good entry point in buying bitcoins. Always remember that there will be a limited number of coins mined, add to that, lost coins and the price will appreciate for quite some time yet. How far up remains to be seen, but $2800 will only be a small fraction.

[TheFriends]

I think that most people would dump their BCC, and that bitcoin will continue to rise until the $3000.

[skorupi17]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

It is a good entry point for us when the price goes low. Last week we witnessed that crash and some grabbed that opportunity to gather more coins at a lower price. As we approach August 1st, some are still hoping for a major decrease so that they can get more coins with such a low price. With a split on the line, it might decrease but who knows.

It is not the last drop and some drops will happen in the future. It is best to monitor the market. A good point of entry will open up, that is certain.

[zarados]

Last chance of what? If you had been keeping track of bitcoin ever since it started, you can tell how strong willed bitcoin is and if it falls down it always climbs back so I don't think this is the last chance even if SegWit will be activated or even if bitcoin is splitting. But we will never know also not until August 1 will pass, so we'll wait for just a few more days until August 1 and be prepared.

It is a good entry point for us when the price goes low. Last week we witnessed that crash and some grabbed that opportunity to gather more coins at a lower price. As we approach August 1st, some are still hoping for a major decrease so that they can get more coins with such a low price. With a split on the line, it might decrease but who knows.

It is not the last drop and some drops will happen in the future. It is best to monitor the market. A good point of entry will open up, that is certain.

Yes, we know what happened to bitcoin in the past, at the end of 2013 bitcoin jumped to the price of $ 1k, until finally fall back at the point $ 100, and took two years to be able to restore the price. Two years is not a short time for a trader. Because of that we can not mess around in determining our entry point if you want to invest in bitcoin, we must be ready with all possibilities.

[cafucafucafu]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

Well the best time to buy was a week back when bitcoin dropped as low to 2K and stayed there for around 1 or 2 days. Now bitcoin has recovered and is just floating around at the 2.7-2.8K price range. You missed your chance to get cheap bitcoin unfortunately and I don't think there will be a chance for you to get bitcoin for that price anytime soon.

There is a high chance of bitcoin taking a trip to the moon after August the first, especially with the possibility of the hard fork becoming less and all the FUD being spread has died down. Future seems to be promising.

[crairezx20]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

Well the best time to buy was a week back when bitcoin dropped as low to 2K and stayed there for around 1 or 2 days. Now bitcoin has recovered and is just floating around at the 2.7-2.8K price range. You missed your chance to get cheap bitcoin unfortunately and I don't think there will be a chance for you to get bitcoin for that price anytime soon.

There is a high chance of bitcoin taking a trip to the moon after August the first, especially with the possibility of the hard fork becoming less and all the FUD being spread has died down. Future seems to be promising.

I think still good to buy bitcoins even the price right now is high because there are times that the price of bitcoin can be increase more like the other speculation that the price can be increase until $3k plus that i think it can be happen after segwit activation.. or after august 1.
That is why the price of bitcoin right now is high due to demand and more people are investing in bitcoin because they know what will happen after segwit..  And if you the one who bought bitcoin with below $2k value you already made a large amount of profit and if you wait more time you can make more profit just don't safe your bitcoin in exchange site and use a wallet which is you can full control your private keys..

[zarados]

Well the best time to buy was a week back when bitcoin dropped as low to 2K and stayed there for around 1 or 2 days. Now bitcoin has recovered and is just floating around at the 2.7-2.8K price range. You missed your chance to get cheap bitcoin unfortunately and I don't think there will be a chance for you to get bitcoin for that price anytime soon.
There is a high chance of bitcoin taking a trip to the moon after August the first, especially with the possibility of the hard fork becoming less and all the FUD being spread has died down. Future seems to be promising.

I think still good to buy bitcoins even the price right now is high because there are times that the price of bitcoin can be increase more like the other speculation that the price can be increase until $3k plus that i think it can be happen after segwit activation.. or after august 1.
That is why the price of bitcoin right now is high due to demand and more people are investing in bitcoin because they know what will happen after segwit..  And if you the one who bought bitcoin with below $2k value you already made a large amount of profit and if you wait more time you can make more profit just don't safe your bitcoin in exchange site and use a wallet which is you can full control your private keys..

I have noticed the price movement on bitcoin, especially since 21 july yesterday, ie since bip91 signaling to star. Do we still need to pay attention to some dates in august like on the https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/countdown-segwit-these-are-dates-keep-eye/ discourse, is it really unlikely to happen drop as just happened To touch below $ 2k.

[BitcoinExpart]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

Well the best time to buy was a week back when bitcoin dropped as low to 2K and stayed there for around 1 or 2 days. Now bitcoin has recovered and is just floating around at the 2.7-2.8K price range. You missed your chance to get cheap bitcoin unfortunately and I don't think there will be a chance for you to get bitcoin for that price anytime soon.

There is a high chance of bitcoin taking a trip to the moon after August the first, especially with the possibility of the hard fork becoming less and all the FUD being spread has died down. Future seems to be promising.

I think still good to buy bitcoins even the price right now is high because there are times that the price of bitcoin can be increase more like the other speculation that the price can be increase until $3k plus that i think it can be happen after segwit activation.. or after august 1.
That is why the price of bitcoin right now is high due to demand and more people are investing in bitcoin because they know what will happen after segwit..  And if you the one who bought bitcoin with below $2k value you already made a large amount of profit and if you wait more time you can make more profit just don't safe your bitcoin in exchange site and use a wallet which is you can full control your private keys..

For me, until Segwit drama started best time buy some alt coins to get the much benefit. My speculation says that, convert your Bitcoin into other coins. Choice is your but think twice before dealing any idea!

[Trela]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

Well the best time to buy was a week back when bitcoin dropped as low to 2K and stayed there for around 1 or 2 days. Now bitcoin has recovered and is just floating around at the 2.7-2.8K price range. You missed your chance to get cheap bitcoin unfortunately and I don't think there will be a chance for you to get bitcoin for that price anytime soon.

There is a high chance of bitcoin taking a trip to the moon after August the first, especially with the possibility of the hard fork becoming less and all the FUD being spread has died down. Future seems to be promising.

I still keep my opinion the price of Bitcoin in next time will breakdown to under $2000 again, because in current Bitcoin have many reason make that. Special after BTC-e down prove Bitcoin not anonymous when create transaction.

[Krillin61]

These days lots of people have been switching to altcoins. Just because of the upcoming segwit its been instructed to keep hold of the bitcoins in a much secure manner. Based on the same people have moved their holdings towards altcoins and some of them has cashed out their holdings. I have been holding my bitcoins without investing into other digital assets, because I believe that nothing worse happen after these days.

Yeah we did the same. There nothing to be afraid of because as we predict while we approaching to aug 1 the price of ot will fall into ground but in conrast the price is being stable on $2000. I have my faith on bitcoin, all we need to do is to trust and wait for the result of segwit. However, if you are hesitating then do the things that you think is right.

[xuan87]

It is too dangerous to try to make profit from this situation, even after the August we still to be very careful to do trading because at that time the situation still not very stable and I suggest to just hold and see how will it work, trading alt coin is also not a good option the price is very fluctuate and tend to go down

[zarados]

It is too dangerous to try to make profit from this situation, even after the August we still to be very careful to do trading because at that time the situation still not very stable and I suggest to just hold and see how will it work, trading alt coin is also not a good option the price is very fluctuate and tend to go down

Indeed, in such situations it is very risky to earn profits, those who retain the risk of possible price drops, and who knows when that price returns to the present value could be a month, a year , or more. Those who sell at risk for big profit losses if the bitcoin price after the activation of this segwit skyrocketed. Nothing is safe. But do you think it's good, if we keep the bitcoin for now, and when the price goes up to a certain point, then immediately we sell it, to anticipate the follow-up drop?

[panju1]

It is too dangerous to try to make profit from this situation, even after the August we still to be very careful to do trading because at that time the situation still not very stable and I suggest to just hold and see how will it work, trading alt coin is also not a good option the price is very fluctuate and tend to go down

Trading alts is risky. Bitcoin seems to be finding its feet again and bitcoin dominance crossed 50% after a long time this week. Until the dust over bitcoin cash settles down, better to wait it out.

[danherbias07]

nope, IMO that kind of split is not that major and not going to affect bitcoin network a lot, unless that is major one, price of bitcoin is not going down hard (the recent drop gone repaired AFAIK). perhaps the price of bitcoin is not going terrifying on 1st August, take care of that.

Thank God if that will be the case. I dont want my funds to just get lower in value just because of that split.
If anything happens it will be a wasteland and many users will be sorrounded by panic and might also cause a breakdown on bitcoin price until it is almost not valuable.
The doubts are happening now and you cant take that out of every users mind as it gets closer. Might as well withdraw half of it.

[CryptoBry]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

Indeed, that was a very good opportunity to get into Bitcoin and at today's price the profit can really be good. Many are dreaming that the same level of Bitcoin price be back soon but I don't think that it can be possible. The market right now has started to downplay and discount already the whole August 1 thing.

[Casdinyard]

I think there is still chance to make profit, some people still not sure about bitcoin future, but since the announcement that there will be no forking, the price has slowly recover, I think it will be a good chance to buy and hold, the price will slowly going up after August

We se it now,  the price is climb up, is this a beginning for what most of people hope. The rise of bitcoin after august 1. But there still three more days , and everything could happen, in this moment people are wondering, whats best to do with their investment on bitcoin.

Yeah and I think its a good sign before the correction and hope this will continue until the correction is done.
And many users right now hold their coins tight and just watching the market, some are nervous and some are relax and confident.

[Boys27]

Can be said this month the right time to make a profit, before I have benefited from the decline in btc prices, although the benefits are not so much. Hopefully at the end of this month we can all benefit

[ipanks]

i think its not the last chance because we can still buy altcoin in anytime. but yes this month is really difficult to make decision to buy because altcoin its down too much. i only hope that in next month, altcoin will rise again with the new price of bitcoin and altcoin will adjust the new price too. i can make sure that i am trying to buy some altcoin in this month and only hold it and after any increase of the price, i will sell the altcoin to make a profit.

[sasaku bitbit]

I think this next week is the last chance to get into a bitcoin with increasingly value price rises so that the benefit is great and you should hold your bitcoin until the beginning of August, perhaps this will be a good news for us. I am sure that this will be our expectations after waiting some time ago bitcoin had decreased to $2000

[flyingcat]

i think its not the last chance because we can still buy altcoin in anytime. but yes this month is really difficult to make decision to buy because altcoin its down too much. i only hope that in next month, altcoin will rise again with the new price of bitcoin and altcoin will adjust the new price too. i can make sure that i am trying to buy some altcoin in this month and only hold it and after any increase of the price, i will sell the altcoin to make a profit.

In my opinion, choose buying some potential altcoin drop many more or at lowest price as outside Bollinger Band chart D1 not bad. As yesterday if you buy some altcoin as DGB, STR, FCT, you can take good profit from 10-15% in today.

[Anfisman]

Currently the bitcoin price is $ 2665. For me if bitcoin is going to drastically decrease at the end of July, I will do the strategy, that is to be patient, I will wait for bitcoin price to become high then I will sell it. Because I believe after entering August bitcoin prices will be high again.

[Netnox]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

IMO, the prices of BTC can decline during the first 2-3 weeks of August. This may represent a great opportunity for noobs to enter in to BTC investment. I guess $2,000 per coin would be a good bargain.

[Obito]

When bitcoins dropped under $2000 that was the best time to buy. You won't see that ever again unless something along the way goes horribly wrong. I'm not selling. That's for damn sure.

Indeed, it is better to buy bitcoin when it reach its lowest price because by that way you could buy a lot of bitcoin with cheap price only and hold it for the long time the sell it on the right time when it is reach the highest price.

[Slark]

For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

We cannot be sure about anything related to crypto market movements. Certainly not now when we are on a brink of great changes.
I only can tell you what I would do with my coins - I certainly won't sell any of my coins now.
It is safe to believe that soon after August 1 when people realize that danger is over and upgrade has been carried out in a satisfactory manner,
the price of bitcoin could easily reach $3000 or even double current BTC price. Wait a week. Be patient. Collect profit.

[Daydream 61]

4 years ago one said last chance.Free years ago one said last chance. A year ago they said last chance.
And now the BTC is at $ 4000. There is always a chance up to $ 10,000
You just have to be courageous to get rich. It does not go by itself

[owengtam09]

4 years ago one said last chance.Free years ago one said last chance. A year ago they said last chance.
And now the BTC is at $ 4000. There is always a chance up to $ 10,000
You just have to be courageous to get rich. It does not go by itself

If there is any chance that bitcoin price will increase up to $10,000 defenitely it is not happening this year, maybe we need to wait until 5 years. So save more and gain more in 5 years from now. But as of now bitcoin has a good value and as of today we need to have some faith in bitcoin and wait for the right time to withdraw your bitcoin.

[AngelSky]

4 years ago one said last chance.Free years ago one said last chance. A year ago they said last chance.
And now the BTC is at $ 4000. There is always a chance up to $ 10,000
You just have to be courageous to get rich. It does not go by itself

Yes you are right. Who said last week is last chance. Many speak about whether bitcoin price will reach 2500$.Bitcoin reach that peak. Then they asked about 3000$.Bitcoin also over come That.And then they speak about 4000$.That also crossed by bitcoin. I don't know
Why they are speaking about this.

[albertvert]

4 years ago one said last chance.Free years ago one said last chance. A year ago they said last chance.
And now the BTC is at $ 4000. There is always a chance up to $ 10,000
You just have to be courageous to get rich. It does not go by itself

Yes you are right. Who said last week is last chance. Many speak about whether bitcoin price will reach 2500$.Bitcoin reach that peak. Then they asked about 3000$.Bitcoin also over come That.And then they speak about 4000$.That also crossed by bitcoin. I don't know
Why they are speaking about this.

I think you are right. Bitcoin crossed the Many peak as of I know. It may be 2500$,or 3000$even may be a 4000$.Bitcoin crossed all the peak as of I know. So to my point their is not a chance for that to happen. I know this .All will understand this fact very soon.Even you can see this very soon.

[Proton2233]

Most likely the price of bitcoin now stands at the peak. May to 23 August will be the speculative rise of prices, but then there is a rapid decline. Those who will sell bitcoins can do so until Sunday. Those who want to buy now I would not recommend doing.

[Oceat]

4 years ago one said last chance.Free years ago one said last chance. A year ago they said last chance.
And now the BTC is at $ 4000. There is always a chance up to $ 10,000
You just have to be courageous to get rich. It does not go by itself

Yes you are right. Who said last week is last chance. Many speak about whether bitcoin price will reach 2500$.Bitcoin reach that peak. Then they asked about 3000$.Bitcoin also over come That.And then they speak about 4000$.That also crossed by bitcoin. I don't know
Why they are speaking about this.

I think you are right. Bitcoin crossed the Many peak as of I know. It may be 2500$,or 3000$even may be a 4000$.Bitcoin crossed all the peak as of I know. So to my point their is not a chance for that to happen. I know this .All will understand this fact very soon.Even you can see this very soon.

So technically bitcoin is rising after the August 1st event, but i couldn't still believe it with my very own eyes that it reaches $4300. I'm also nervous that it might gonna go down by next month. More users are expecting this to happen but i don't really know since when because i am starting to get confuse since there's no split yet or it might not occur.

[giveen]

You were right about it july was surely the last chance only for bitcoin for alts the nightmare still continues and it might not stop. However if you did notice the price of btc was low at around $3k but suddenly rose to 4k in a blink of a day the reason for this could have been russia offering mining services. I have a feeling that the russians or the russia government has made huge investments in btc because till now we haven't noticed any major dump unlike how it happened in the past.

[pitham1]

You were right about it july was surely the last chance only for bitcoin for alts the nightmare still continues and it might not stop. However if you did notice the price of btc was low at around $3k but suddenly rose to 4k in a blink of a day the reason for this could have been russia offering mining services. I have a feeling that the russians or the russia government has made huge investments in btc because till now we haven't noticed any major dump unlike how it happened in the past.

The nightmare for alts was bound to happen once Bitcoin started dealing with its problem. However, we are not out of the woods yet. If there is talk about a hard fork and scaling is still an issue, alts can rise again.

[Youghoor]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

Well if you bought on July 22nd when the price was at $2k each bitcoin, you could make a 110% profit in less than 25 days, do you know how crazy it is?
Bitcoin will always grow, there is always a chance to get it, so dont be afraid of buying bitcoins guys, it will always go up

[jc89]

4 years ago one said last chance.Free years ago one said last chance. A year ago they said last chance.
And now the BTC is at $ 4000. There is always a chance up to $ 10,000
You just have to be courageous to get rich. It does not go by itself

Totally agree with this. There's always a chance here in btc investment. I think we should consider everyday as a last chance on a different perspective. What I mean to say is if you are thinking of investing in btc today but still thinking about it, you should consider every day the "last chance." Every single day is an opportunity and that we should always grab it as soon as it shows itself.

[LavaJack]

4 years ago one said last chance.Free years ago one said last chance. A year ago they said last chance.
And now the BTC is at $ 4000. There is always a chance up to $ 10,000
You just have to be courageous to get rich. It does not go by itself

Totally agree with this. There's always a chance here in btc investment. I think we should consider everyday as a last chance on a different perspective. What I mean to say is if you are thinking of investing in btc today but still thinking about it, you should consider every day the "last chance." Every single day is an opportunity and that we should always grab it as soon as it shows itself.

The other implied matter here is that people are making purchasing decisions for bitcoin solely on the price of it. However, price rarely ever equals value. So then the question is, what is the value of bitcoin and where is that value going? At this point, the broad market is indicating that cryptocurrencies as a whole are on the fast track to mass adoption (a point which it has not yet hit). The current state of the market is reminiscent of nappster, myspace, facebook in the 2000s compared to now. This is a boiling pot that will not have a cap put on it. Corrections are normal phases of a bull market. Stand the weather, stand to make life changing gains. Stay the course fellas!

[snowdropfore]

we can get in any time ,it is not too late . bitcoin is bull market now ,an it is not peak yet ,when bitcoin is pumping like a balloon, we have to dump it .

[mrayazgul]

The price isn't going anywhere but up.

[chickenfried12]

There will always be sudden rises. When you see the bottom price on the market, do not miss the opportunity to buy. Day by day the bitcoin is getting stronger my opinion is always assuming an open role to further develop.

[carlisle1]

There will always be sudden rises. When you see the bottom price on the market, do not miss the opportunity to buy. Day by day the bitcoin is getting stronger my opinion is always assuming an open role to further develop.

which is the best time to keep buying is still today and price will be the big difference after another year and the year after bitcoin is already serving its
role as a payment process and I guess it was noticed by large businesses so better to think and act quickly not to be left behind.

[YuginKadoya]

There will always be sudden rises. When you see the bottom price on the market, do not miss the opportunity to buy. Day by day the bitcoin is getting stronger my opinion is always assuming an open role to further develop.

which is the best time to keep buying is still today and price will be the big difference after another year and the year after bitcoin is already serving its
role as a payment process and I guess it was noticed by large businesses so better to think and act quickly not to be left behind.

Well yes that is for people to decide when he would like to buy bitcoin and I think it is not too late to invest to it, bitcoin will still show so many potential in the future and we can count that the price will surely soar into a level we can really never imagine, and I think  it will then proves your decisions if your right about it and you certainly need to risk if you really want to earn in bitcoin so feel free to buy bitcoin to your hearts content.

[Fatunad]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

You are now on big profits for sure and your hopes do come true since its really the last low price on bitcoin.$1800 is the sweetest part and i do hope you do enter on that point or even higher. considering on the current price of bitcoin we are almost reaching out on $4500 price which is already a sweet spot to sell out the coins you have bought before on the august 1 fork event.

[zarados]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

Well if you bought on July 22nd when the price was at $2k each bitcoin, you could make a 110% profit in less than 25 days, do you know how crazy it is?
Bitcoin will always grow, there is always a chance to get it, so dont be afraid of buying bitcoins guys, it will always go up

That's what I'm talking about, when I create this thread, August fork is approaching, and I mean is that a last chance to buy more bitcoin in that price. no one can assure that the price will comeback at that price again. Even if there are big bad news just like before, I think $2k is too low right now.

[zarados]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

You are now on big profits for sure and your hopes do come true since its really the last low price on bitcoin.$1800 is the sweetest part and i do hope you do enter on that point or even higher. considering on the current price of bitcoin we are almost reaching out on $4500 price which is already a sweet spot to sell out the coins you have bought before on the august 1 fork event.

I do enter the sweet point, but only in $2000. Sadly, I just have $500 to buy more bitcoin on that price. I know this is a good spot to cash out, but I choose to keep my btc. anyway, I'm not in needed big money right now. WHat do you think about my decision?

[superplus]

I do enter the sweet point, but only in $2000. Sadly, I just have $500 to buy more bitcoin on that price. I know this is a good spot to cash out, but I choose to keep my btc. anyway, I'm not in needed big money right now. WHat do you think about my decision?

Your decision is wise to see the development of Bitcoin prices are increasing from month to month, keep hold it until the price reaching 10k $

[mrayazgul]

All you have to do is look at the price index and look at the history of it you'll see that. Every time the price goes higher everybody questions it when all you have to do is look at the price history and you'll see it's not going to go back down. Bitcoin is trusted and used by many people now and it is not really left a pump dump coin as it was one year before. I think price is now stable at 4000$ and now i see its upwards movements towards 5000$. Even it is good chance to buy now and sell at 5000$ a month later.

[Michhotdog]

All you have to do is look at the price index and look at the history of it you'll see that. Every time the price goes higher everybody questions it when all you have to do is look at the price history and you'll see it's not going to go back down. Bitcoin is trusted and used by many people now and it is not really left a pump dump coin as it was one year before. I think price is now stable at 4000$ and now i see its upwards movements towards 5000$. Even it is good chance to buy now and sell at 5000$ a month later.

But you can keep more than a month. Then your profit will increase.
I try to collect money in order to buy coins every time the price drops a little. I have been following this strategy for several months

[panju1]

All you have to do is look at the price index and look at the history of it you'll see that. Every time the price goes higher everybody questions it when all you have to do is look at the price history and you'll see it's not going to go back down. Bitcoin is trusted and used by many people now and it is not really left a pump dump coin as it was one year before. I think price is now stable at 4000$ and now i see its upwards movements towards 5000$. Even it is good chance to buy now and sell at 5000$ a month later.

You are way too optimistic if you think that you can predict Bitcoin's price movement in one month's time. It is one think to be confident that Bitcoin will reach $5000. It is another thing to think that it will reach $5000 in one month.

[ALT67890]

There would be much more to reconsider especially when we're talking about the price estimate of bitcoin. When or Is this the right to invest, to hold, to buy and even to sell. It is a question that no definite answer, it is what you think that matters.

[BitHodler]

You are way too optimistic if you think that you can predict Bitcoin's price movement in one month's time. It is one think to be confident that Bitcoin will reach $5000. It is another thing to think that it will reach $5000 in one month.

That user is just guessing around in the hope to be right. If we look at the $5000 mark, it's not all that unrealistic to happen if take into consideration that it just may take a day or two to reach from current price point.

This market is full of surprises, and that has been perfectly displayed already ~ who would have thought to see the price break through the $4000 mark at the 1st of January? Definitely not many.

If we look at the market from an unbiased perspective, it doesn't take much market knowledge to see that the market is running out of steam, short term speaking ~ people are waiting for a correction to happen.

[Baofeng]

All you have to do is look at the price index and look at the history of it you'll see that. Every time the price goes higher everybody questions it when all you have to do is look at the price history and you'll see it's not going to go back down. Bitcoin is trusted and used by many people now and it is not really left a pump dump coin as it was one year before. I think price is now stable at 4000$ and now i see its upwards movements towards 5000$. Even it is good chance to buy now and sell at 5000$ a month later.

I also do think that the price will not go down further in 10% dips. Why? Because every dip now is the perfect opportunity to buy and get in to get profits later. Last dip is $3600 if I'm not mistaken but suddenly jumps to $4xxx because everybody started to buy again. So for me, I don't think that we are going to see a crash in the future.

Now, I'm seeing a minor price correction again, down to 3% but I'm sure that it will regain because as I have said every dips was a good time for new investors to get into the ecosystem pushing the price back to where in was once and even further.

[pixie85]

All you have to do is look at the price index and look at the history of it you'll see that. Every time the price goes higher everybody questions it when all you have to do is look at the price history and you'll see it's not going to go back down. Bitcoin is trusted and used by many people now and it is not really left a pump dump coin as it was one year before. I think price is now stable at 4000$ and now i see its upwards movements towards 5000$. Even it is good chance to buy now and sell at 5000$ a month later.

And what if it is going down? I can look at the prices and history, let's look together. 2014 is a good year for that 
Bitcoin has fallen down a number of times and it had downtrends, like any other market. There's a possibility it will go down again if some countries make laws against Bitcoin or there's a flaw in the system. I'm positive about the prices but you never know.

[arpon11]

It is not only dawn trend of the month of July 2017 because of the hardfork and splitting that happened in August first but it might be the dawn trend of the year. We have seeing bitcoin moving from try to break $2500 in July to today when we see bitcoin go as high as $4400.  If you buying then you should have make reasonable profit as at today. Don't think we would ever see bitcoin below $3000 before the end of this year again.

[PancherBitCoin]

It is not only dawn trend of the month of July 2017 because of the hardfork and splitting that happened in August first but it might be the dawn trend of the year. We have seeing bitcoin moving from try to break $2500 in July to today when we see bitcoin go as high as $4400.  If you buying then you should have make reasonable profit as at today. Don't think we would ever see bitcoin below $3000 before the end of this year again.

Unambiguously that the potential opportunity to earn on investment in Bitcoin, this is another drop in price. I think that to the end. This is really. Still will happen. I completely agree with your words that this is an opportunity to miss and therefore this opportunity to give a good income.

[OracionSeis]

It is not only dawn trend of the month of July 2017 because of the hardfork and splitting that happened in August first but it might be the dawn trend of the year. We have seeing bitcoin moving from try to break $2500 in July to today when we see bitcoin go as high as $4400.  If you buying then you should have make reasonable profit as at today. Don't think we would ever see bitcoin below $3000 before the end of this year again.

Unambiguously that the potential opportunity to earn on investment in Bitcoin, this is another drop in price. I think that to the end. This is really. Still will happen. I completely agree with your words that this is an opportunity to miss and therefore this opportunity to give a good income.

That is evident happening, why Bitcoin do not comeback again to $3xxx range price, even $2xxx before growth and breakout $5,000 in this year? If Bitcoin cannot do that, I will take my profit to my FIAT and never trade until have clearly signal on market.

[hahay]

I think the opportunity will always be there when bitcoin prices can not be completely stable and fluctuations will always exist, even though we enter at this time and then the price will go down, it is not a ruin for investors and traders because bitcon already has a very good trend and always there is a chance to get high value in the future.

[oegarod]

With bitcoin price fluctuations were common, so there is no next week or further week to get the bitcoin for the lowest price. Recently the price went low as $3900, during which majority of the users sold their holdings thinking it an crash. So can't predict the reality.

[agustina2]

I think the opportunity will always be there when bitcoin prices can not be completely stable and fluctuations will always exist, even though we enter at this time and then the price will go down, it is not a ruin for investors and traders because bitcon already has a very good trend and always there is a chance to get high value in the future.

That's why we can't state a specific price if it's the right time to buy or to sell since bitcoin price fluctuates so much.

If an investor really wants to pursue bitcoin as investment then they must consider all price rate since after all we can't say what will happened next. If they have guts to face any risk of what will happened once they buy bitcoin at any price then pushed on buying as long as not all funds are being used so that in case of a dip, there is still ammos left.

[Barbut]

I think the opportunity will always be there when bitcoin prices can not be completely stable and fluctuations will always exist, even though we enter at this time and then the price will go down, it is not a ruin for investors and traders because bitcon already has a very good trend and always there is a chance to get high value in the future.

That's why we can't state a specific price if it's the right time to buy or to sell since bitcoin price fluctuates so much.

If an investor really wants to pursue bitcoin as investment then they must consider all price rate since after all we can't say what will happened next. If they have guts to face any risk of what will happened once they buy bitcoin at any price then pushed on buying as long as not all funds are being used so that in case of a dip, there is still ammos left.

Many people in the past already faced with same risk and fears, augustina2 you are here longer then most of us and i`m sure that you are aware of it. Can we compare risk in this moment now with risk 7 years ago? Is it easier to invest money in bitcoin now when acceptance is on this level, or it was easier before when just few people knew about bitcoin? I think risks are the same, but profit made will be different.
I agree that opportunity is still here for many people, with bitcoins and with altcoins. Choosing wisely the moment when will you enter can bring higher profit, with many ico`s there is a lot of opportunities for many people to get into long term investments. We need to risk with our investments if we wish to make some profit in the future.

[zarados]

With bitcoin price fluctuations were common, so there is no next week or further week to get the bitcoin for the lowest price. Recently the price went low as $3900, during which majority of the users sold their holdings thinking it an crash. So can't predict the reality.

Sadly, I miss that little dump recently. So I think I'll wait till november, thought there's a dump time when the segwit2 in action. And I Do invest some btc into eth because there be a pump on september or october , I've seen the pump is already begin this monday. People are using its fluctuations to get profit, So , when I post this thread, I think its surely the last chance to buy bitcoin at that price, because it's hard for bitcoin to come back at around $2k.

[Silberman]

People are wondering, the last week of July is the deciding whether you want to make a big profit, or you'll just miss it. For myself, I intend to sell some of my cryptoss, and hope to get a good entry point, but on the other hand I feel that last week's downtrend is the last one of this month, what do you think?

It seems you missed your window of opportunity, so I really hope that you did not sell or you missed one of the most impressive rallies in the history of bitcoin, we were struggling to get to 3000 dollars and suddenly bitcoin broke that barrier and then  did more than that since it got to a price above 4000 dollars that still maintains, but if you did sold then you probably lost a lot of potential profits.